00:00When I see the moment when we're not going to make a deal, when this thing won't stop,
00:04if that moment, yeah, it's in my brain, the deadline. When I see the moment where
00:12it's not going to stop, and I'm sure you're going to do the same thing,
00:17will be very, very, very tough. And it could be on both countries, to be honest. You know,
00:22it takes two to tango. But we're going to be very tough, whether it's Russia or anybody else,
00:27we're going to be very tough. That's a bloodbath that's going on over there.
00:32And when I see the moment where I say, well, they're going to just keep fighting.
00:37You know, I gave the analogy yesterday when I spoke to President Putin, I had a two-hour and 15-minute
00:43call with him. Sometimes, and this is me speaking, maybe in a negative sense, but sometimes you see
00:50two young children fighting like crazy. They hate each other, and they're fighting in a park.
00:56And you try and pull them apart. They don't want to be pulled. Sometimes you're better off letting
01:01them fight for a while, and then pulling them apart. And I gave that analogy to Putin yesterday.
01:09I said, President, maybe you're going to have to keep fighting and suffering a lot, because both
01:15sides are suffering, before you pull them apart, before they're able to be pulled apart. But it's
01:20a pretty known analogy. You have two kids. They fight, fight, fight. Sometimes you let
01:26them fight for a little while. You see it in hockey. You see it in sports. The referees,
01:31let them go for a couple of seconds. Let them go for a little while before you pull them apart.
01:36And maybe, maybe, and I said it, and maybe that's a negative, because we're saying go. But
01:42a lot of bad blood. There's some bad blood between the two. I have to deal with it, and
01:49the chancellor has to deal with it. It's incredible. The level of, there's a great hatred between those
01:53two, between those two men, but between the warring parties. Great hatred.
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