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At today's Senate Appropriations Committee hearing, Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) spoke to Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick.
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00:00I hope that this hearing will be a restart of what had been a strong and professional
00:07relationship between this committee, this subcommittee, both sides, and the Department
00:14of Commerce.
00:16And I say that because I think that it was the experience of Senator Moran that during
00:20the Biden administration, whether they agreed or disagreed, the Department of Commerce was
00:25forthcoming in providing responses to questions.
00:30And that's also true when you go back to the first Trump administration, right?
00:35But it has been a very different and broken relationship since this administration took
00:42office, at least with respect to trying to get answers from this side of the aisle.
00:47I'm not fully aware of all of the chairman's inquiries.
00:53But as you know, we have witnessed during this period of time since the beginning of the
00:58Trump administration, an unprecedented and, in my view, illegal firing of thousands of
01:04federal employees, including many at the Department of Commerce, NOAA, and other places.
01:10We've also seen the withholding of funds that have been duly appropriated by this Congress
01:15and signed into law.
01:17As you know, Mr. Secretary, Article II of the Constitution requires the president to take
01:23care that the laws be faithfully executed.
01:27Appropriations acts are the supreme law of the land.
01:32Executive orders are not.
01:34Doge diktats are not.
01:36To that end, here's just a partial list of the Department's and the administration's failure
01:43to comply with the law or with reasonable requests from this committee.
01:50The administration is withholding $200 million provided to the Department of Commerce in the
01:54fiscal year 2025 appropriations law that the president signed in March.
02:01The department has attempted to illegally shut down the Minority Business Development Agency,
02:06despite the appropriation and the recent bipartisan 2021 authorization law, putting that into the
02:14permanent statute.
02:16The department has not provided its agency RIF and reorganization plan, despite a letter
02:23that both the chairman and I sent to you and the department requesting the specifics.
02:30The department has illegally fired nearly 1,000 employees, including over 500 from NOAA alone.
02:38The department has failed to provide a real spending plan outlining how you tend to execute
02:43the fiscal year 25 appropriations law.
02:46We have this two-page document.
02:50The chairman referred to the fact that this is still missing, other than this two-pager.
02:56Just to give you a point of reference, this was an equivalent from last year with respect
03:00to the plan to spend the remaining funds for this fiscal year, which, as you know, ends on
03:06September 30th.
03:08The department has failed to respond to virtually all committee inquiries, at least on the Democratic
03:15side.
03:16Letters I've sent.
03:17I sent you two letters, Mr. Secretary, in addition to the joint letter I sent you with the chairman,
03:23and our staff has sent multiple inquiries, and I'll have some questions about the lack
03:28of responsiveness going forward.
03:32This is, in my view, unacceptable, and I think it should be unacceptable to people on both sides
03:38of the aisle.
03:39And it's in this context that we're now taking up the fiscal year 2026 appropriations bill.
03:45And I've discussed with the chairman of the subcommittee, and I know that Senator Murray
03:49has talked with Senator Collins, as an appropriations committee, we've got to figure out how, when
03:55we appropriate resources for certain purposes, that those are complied with.
04:01Let me just say that beyond the issue of the numbers and the budget, this does come down
04:06to people.
04:08One such person is Carrie.
04:09She's a mom and a homeowner who lives in Maryland.
04:13She's a federal employee who worked at the Department of Commerce.
04:17She was proud of her mission.
04:19She worked to implement the CHIPS and Science Act, promoting domestic semiconductor manufacturing,
04:25supporting good-paying jobs.
04:26She received the so-called fork email offering her money to quit her job.
04:31She said, I don't need to take that because I think I'm contributing.
04:35Earlier this year, she was on medical leave to recover following a major spinal surgery.
04:40She then, a few days later, received the message to tell everybody what five things she'd done
04:45during the week.
04:46Her husband said, don't focus on that, focus on your recovery.
04:50Instead, she worked from bed.
04:53Days later, she was fired.
04:55Then a judge ordered her and other employees to be reinstated, only for her to be fired again.
05:01Making matters worse, not only was her health insurance canceled, but it was also
05:04retroactively backdated, meaning she had to pay for the surgery and medication out-of-pocket.
05:11One prescription alone cost her $2,500.
05:15She said, and I quote, right now I'm working off faith.
05:19We have kids, we have a mortgage, car payments, I don't know what we're going to do.
05:24Mr. Secretary, this is no way to treat patriotic federal employees who are doing the work for
05:32our country.
05:33And I look forward to today's hearing and the questions that will be posed from people
05:37on both sides of the aisle.
05:38Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
05:39Thank you, Senator Van Hollen.
05:40Mr. Secretary, as I welcomed you earlier, we now look forward to your testimony and you
05:44may begin.
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