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Katie Britt Asks Secretary Linda McMahon About Preventing Students From Being 'Trapped' In Failing Schools
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6/4/2025
During a Senate Appropriations Committee hearing on Tuesday, Sen. Katie Britt (R-AL) spoke to Education Secretary Linda McMahon on expanding school choice.
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Thank you so much for being here today.
00:01
I want to start with talking about HBCUs.
00:04
So Alabama has more HBCUs than any other state in the nation.
00:08
We are proud of the work that is done on those campuses.
00:12
We know that it helps strengthen student experience, our workforce, our communities, and our future.
00:18
So if you look across coast to coast, there are about 285,000 individuals that are attending
00:23
HBCUs, and the Strengthening HBCU program has about 300 million annually allocated to supporting
00:31
the operations and student services and academic infrastructure.
00:35
So can you walk us through, in the President's FY26 budget, kind of what you have put in place
00:41
to continuing to make sure that our HBCUs can thrive and provide that educational opportunity
00:47
for so many students that otherwise wouldn't have it?
00:49
Well, in a word, or in a very short sentence, we are continuing the educational support and
00:56
the budget support that have been for HBCUs.
00:58
It's one of the promises that the President made, and that's exactly what we're going to
01:02
continue to do.
01:03
Good.
01:04
And will you make sure that there are guardrails put up to whether it's, you know, assistance
01:08
for grant administration or technical assistance, that those remain in place?
01:12
Yes.
01:13
Excellent.
01:15
That when this department was founded, you said since 1980, we've had about, spent about
01:21
$3 trillion, but yet student scores have not improved.
01:25
One of the reasons I ran for the Senate is I want the unseen to be seen.
01:29
I want to close the gap between the have and have nots.
01:32
And that is why I am so excited and thrilled about your support and commitment to educational
01:37
freedom and opportunity.
01:39
When you look at a state like Alabama, we have the Alabama Accountability Act.
01:43
And we are working to help families better have access to educational opportunities through
01:49
scholarship, tuition, and tax credits.
01:52
But we know that the demand is, it far outpaces the actual supply.
01:57
So in your FY26 budget for charter school programs, you've taken it to $500 million, which
02:03
is a $60 million increase.
02:06
My question to you is, can you walk us through how these funds will be used to expand options,
02:13
particularly in rural communities and underserved communities?
02:16
So when we work to close that gap, these parents have an opportunity and a choice for their child.
02:22
Well, thank you very much, Senator Brett.
02:25
It's very important to the president that all students have access, equal access to a quality
02:32
education.
02:33
That's right.
02:34
And one of the things that he has said time after time is that no child should be trapped
02:38
in a failing school, which is one of the reasons why he wanted to expand the amount of dollars
02:43
for charter schools.
02:45
And I have visited several charter schools and public schools, too, already around the country.
02:50
We can see how innovative that they are being, how creative they are being, you know, with
02:54
their curriculum, with their content.
02:55
They are, in most instances, they are outperforming the public schools in that area, in which when
03:01
I talked to Governor Reynolds, I said, you know, there's always concern, you have charter
03:05
schools or freedom of, you know, or choice for schools that public schools will go down.
03:09
And she said, it's just the opposite in Iowa.
03:12
She said, our public school levels are coming up.
03:14
The competition is really great.
03:16
Parents are more involved, and that's one of the requirements.
03:19
Parents are understanding more that they need to be part of the school board or help to elect
03:23
the school board members.
03:24
They're attending the meetings, more conferences with teachers, understanding what it is that
03:29
their child needs in their community to be successful to go on for their education.
03:34
Absolutely.
03:34
And I am a public school kid, and I am really proud of it.
03:37
Don't mind.
03:37
I want to make sure that where we have children who are trapped in a failing school, that they
03:43
have an option and an opportunity and a pathway forward, because education is the great equalizer.
03:49
As our colleague, Tim Scott, always says, it is the closest thing to magic that we have
03:53
in America.
03:54
So thank you so much for continuing to be committed to making sure that every child has that opportunity
04:00
to thrive and grow.
04:01
Last, in my last minute, I want to talk to you a little bit about literacy.
04:05
Thank you for your commitment to that.
04:07
I want to understand kind of what your vision is, and I also want to add Alabama to the list
04:11
of success stories.
04:13
So we passed in 2019 the Alabama Literacy Act.
04:17
Since that time period, we have seen significant growth in our numbers and proficiency amongst
04:24
our third and fourth graders.
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For instance, Alabama's national ranking for fourth grade reading improved from 49th in
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the nation.
04:32
When we actually, the year that we put this into place, five years later, we've moved up
04:36
to 34.
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We believe with intentionality and evidence-based reading instruction and early intervention,
04:43
you can make a difference that changes a child's pathway forward and opportunity that will be
04:49
in front of them.
04:50
So just want to talk a little bit about that.
04:52
If you can tell me what your plans are there and how we can continue to support great work
04:57
that's being done in states like Alabama.
04:59
Well, evidence-based literacy is number one on my priority list, and I want to make sure
05:08
that we are providing the information and the tools to states for them to see the success
05:13
that other states have had.
05:15
I mean, other governors, just like you said, in Alabama have put in place kind of a return
05:19
to basics or that science of reading, and they have seen incredible results, and that's
05:24
what I want to continue to see across the country.
05:26
We saw a nine-point tick up between 2023 and 2024.
05:32
Obviously, we have a ways to go, and we're going to continue to be committed to that,
05:37
but thank you for your commitment to making sure these programs thrive.
05:42
Senator Shaheen.
05:43
Thank you, Madam Chair.
05:44
Welcome.
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