He is the singer-songwriter behind one of the '90s most romantic songs, 'I'll Be.' Edwin McCain's 1997 hit climbed the Billboard Hot 100 charts and has been featured in several shows and movies over the past few decades. Since then, the artist has released a total of 11 studio albums and has continued touring while raising his family. In the last few years, he has also gained viral success on TikTok. The South Carolina native has expanded beyond music into television, producing and hosting Animal Planet's Flippin' Ships , and a satellite radio program on SiriusXM, Inside Music with Edwin McCain . Most recently, McCain performed for millions as "Nessy," the Loch Ness Monster, on The Masked Singer Season 13 , capturing the hearts of a whole new generation. Besides seeing him on TV, fans also got a brand-new album from the artist, his first in 15 years. His 11th studio album, Lucky , released earlier this year, was produced by country stars Lee Brice and Jerrod Niemann, and recorded at Brice's Pump House Studios in Nashville. The album has a bit of a country feel, with the first two singles '(Don't Go) Chasing a Memory' and 'Lucky All the Time,' written for Edwin by Old Dominion and featuring a duet by Edwin and Old Dominion's Matt Ramsey, with backing harmonies from the band and Rebecca Lynn Howard. Fresh off tours with Hootie & the Blowfish, Collective Soul, and Lee Brice, McCain hits the road again this summer with Train. But first, he stopped by the LifeMinute Studios to tell us all about the new album and perform his biggest ballad, as well as a brand-new track, "When It Does." This is a LifeMinute with Edwin McCain.
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00:00Hey, it's Edwin McCain, and you are watching Life Minute TV.
00:04He's the singer-songwriter behind one of the 90s' most romantic songs.
00:20I'll be Edwin McCain's 1997 hit climbed the Billboard Hot 100 charts
00:25and was featured in an array of shows and movies over the past few decades.
00:30Since he's released a total of 11 studio albums,
00:33his latest, Lucky, produced by friend and country star Lee Bryce,
00:37is his first in 15 years.
00:39The father of three continues to capture a whole new generation of fans
00:43through the viral success of his hilarious TikTok account,
00:46featuring his daughter, and most recently as a contestant
00:50on The Masked Singer Season 13.
00:52The artist also just wrapped a tour with Hootie and the Blowfish,
00:56Collective Soul, and Lee Bryce,
00:57and will hit the road again this summer with Train.
01:01He came by the Life Minute studios to tell us all about the new album,
01:04touring, and to perform his biggest ballad, as well as a brand new track.
01:09This is a Life Minute with Edwin McCain.
01:14Lee Bryce, he claims to me as one of his big influences.
01:18He used to come to my shows when he was a teenager, which makes me feel old.
01:22Edwin McCain, first of all, my hero growing up.
01:26There was Garth, Edwin.
01:28For about 10 years, he was after me to make a record with him.
01:33And at the time, I was sort of in this mindset of,
01:37well, you know, I've put out 10 albums, and I've still got to play my shows,
01:40and I tease my audience.
01:41I go, tonight, I'm only going to play new songs.
01:44And they're like, no!
01:46And I'm guilty of that, too, because I love ACDC,
01:50but when I go hear them,
01:52I want to hear Back in Black and For Those About to Rock.
01:54I just kind of always chalked it up to,
01:57I'm just going to go and play the songs that they want to hear,
02:00and nobody cares about hearing anything new from me.
02:02And then Lee kept pushing and pushing,
02:05and I just love him.
02:06He's such a good dude.
02:07I was like, all right, let's make a record.
02:09Why not?
02:09Taught me everything I didn't know about playing acoustic guitar.
02:12And sing it.
02:14And in the time from the last record I made until now,
02:18the technology is even better.
02:20And so it makes the potential landscape of music so much wider.
02:27But it also allows for you to endlessly edit.
02:31It used to be your album was finished
02:33when you ran out of studio time and money,
02:35and now it's just, you have to stop.
02:38You just have to say, here it is.
02:40This is why, because you can just edit for endless time.
02:44Lee, I met him through a friend of mine,
02:46a songwriter in Nashville named Phillip Lammons,
02:48and he was writing with Lee.
02:50And he kept calling me going,
02:52dude, this guy's like super famous,
02:54and he's like a fan of yours,
02:55and you need to come meet him.
02:57I was like, okay, because I was in the mix
03:00of raising like toddlers, like small kids.
03:04And I didn't know anything.
03:06I know Phineas and Ferb.
03:08You know, I don't know current country music.
03:10And so I went and met him, and we wrote.
03:13And he's such a great musician and a great singer.
03:17And it was one of those,
03:18immediately I'm going to be friends with him.
03:22And it's been one of those great friendships.
03:23Well, again, yet another friendship I made through music.
03:26And that's the best part about this whole thing.
03:32It was the most fun record I've ever made.
03:36It's kind of all over the place.
03:37It touches on a lot of genres.
03:39It veered a little bit more country.
03:42I mean, we always sort of veered into Americana,
03:45but we kind of veered all the way into country
03:48with the Old Dominion song, Lucky.
03:50And thanks to Matt Ramsey,
03:52because I tend to write sad songs.
03:55And so when I got into the studio,
03:57I was like, oh my gosh,
03:58I got a pile of sad songs here.
04:00I got to do something.
04:01And so I called Matt, and I was like,
04:02do you have a happy song I can borrow for this record?
04:04And he sent over Lucky.
04:10And I recorded it,
04:11but it sounded so much like an Old Dominion song.
04:14I was like, people are going to think I'm ripping you off.
04:16You got to be on this song with me.
04:18And so he graciously appeared on the song too.
04:21So that was cool.
04:25Empire, I wrote it after going and seeing this EDM artist called Illinium.
04:31You know, I'm a Gen Xer, so I was like, EDM, you know.
04:38And I'd never seen it.
04:39And so I went, and it was a revelation
04:41because he's a musician.
04:44And he created a four and a half hour long experience.
04:50It was an epiphany for me
04:53because as the night went on, it built and built.
04:56And I'm 100% sure that every laser
04:58that was available in Los Angeles County
05:02was in that building along with the fire effects.
05:05And as the night went on,
05:06you know, he was bringing out different singers
05:08and different and then more musicians.
05:10And by the end of the show,
05:11there was two drummers and a stage full of musicians.
05:14So it wasn't just EDM.
05:16It was a hybrid.
05:18If the goal be to create an experience
05:21and be entertaining, mission accomplished.
05:25It was amazing.
05:26But I think the big takeaway for me
05:28was the vibe in the room
05:30and the spirit of the people,
05:32the kids that were there.
05:33And I say kids, the 20-somethings that were in there.
05:37There was this overwhelming sense of independence.
05:42And they are untouched by a lot of the ugliness
05:45that was going on outside in the world.
05:47And I was like, man, the kids are going to be okay.
05:49And that was my takeaway from it.
05:51And I just, I walked away going,
05:53you know what, give it to them.
05:55They're going to be okay.
05:57There's another song on the album called
05:59Helicopter that I wrote for my mother.
06:01I'll take you on a helicopter ride
06:05Get a glimpse of what it will be like
06:09When you take me to the skies
06:13Her final bucket list item was
06:16she wanted to take a helicopter ride
06:18around the mountain that she lived her whole life on.
06:20And so I made it happen.
06:22And so it was sort of a chronicle of that moment.
06:25And then Don't Go Chasing a Memory,
06:28the sort of the opening track of the record,
06:30I co-wrote with my longtime friend, Maya Sharp.
06:35Don't go chasing a memory
06:38That's just your past dressed up like a destiny
06:41Kind of reminded myself of being present in this endeavor.
06:48Because when I was in my 20s and on the major labels,
06:51we forgot to enjoy the moments
06:55because we were so busy driving towards things
06:59and our schedules were insane.
07:01And I think there was such a sense of desperation,
07:04like if the numbers next week don't come out right,
07:07we're going to lose.
07:09You know, meanwhile, we're out there playing shows every night
07:12and missing, sometimes missing the point.
07:15I know that I'm not like that anymore.
07:17Every gig I get, now that I'm 35 years in,
07:22every gig I get, I'm like, I still get to do this.
07:26Pretty cool.
07:27Maya Sharp is my main co-writer
07:30and my relationship with her has been spectacular.
07:35She's one of the greatest songwriters I've ever known,
07:37but even more than that, just an even better human.
07:43And she taught me how to really bring a song
07:49to its best and highest.
07:51And the idea being that if you don't develop an idea
07:54to the best version that it can be
07:56is that it's disrespectful to other writers that were.
08:01And I had never seen it like that
08:03until we met and started working together.
08:06I think that changed my trajectory
08:10as a songwriter for sure.
08:13I think that it's hard to give credit
08:15to the lightning rod for the lightning.
08:17I think as artists or musicians,
08:19we're just hoping to get out under the stormy cloud
08:21and hopefully we get hit with it and pass it out.
08:25That's all we're trying to do is just be a conduit.
08:27I'll Be has been my ticket to planet Earth.
08:37About 10 minutes before I finished the song,
08:40my former boss at Atlantic,
08:42kind of Jason Flom, called me and was like,
08:44listen, some of the people here are talking about
08:46dropping you from the label,
08:47so the next thing you turn in needs to be great.
08:50And I was like, oh, okay,
08:51I got this one song that's really coming together.
08:54And so it was like a half-court hook shot at the buzzer
08:58and it went in.
08:59So I was really lucky.
09:12It was sort of an amalgam of things.
09:14It was something that I used to say
09:16to this girl I was dating.
09:17We both kind of knew it wasn't going to work out,
09:20but I used to say,
09:20I'll always be your greatest fan.
09:23And then the crying shoulder part
09:26was just this drunk guy fumbled his words.
09:30He meant to say shoulder to cry on
09:31and he just blurted out crying shoulder.
09:36And I turned and was like,
09:37yeah, I got to write that down.
09:40Yeah, that was it.
09:42Back then, too,
09:44I was just kind of bouncing around a lot.
09:46So wherever I was,
09:48I would write little phrases
09:50on napkins and receipts or whatever
09:52and just throw them in my bag.
09:53And then when I would get home from tour,
09:55I'd pull out all these little fragments
09:57and put them on the coffee table
09:58and just kind of go through them
09:59and go, does any of this work together?
10:01And that's kind of how it came together.
10:04And I'll be better when I'm older.
10:11Better when I'm older.
10:12I think that was a little bit of a prayer
10:13because at the time,
10:15I didn't have a healthy relationship with substances
10:17and I knew that eventually
10:20I was going to have to face that,
10:22but I wasn't ready.
10:24And so that was sort of a projection,
10:27I guess I hoped that I was,
10:28all right, you're going to have to get this
10:30under control at some point.
10:31And so I'll be better when I'm older.
10:34It's either that
10:35or I was just putting it off in the lyric.
10:37Every night when I play it,
10:39I try to think,
10:40well, I want to play this
10:42like the first time I ever played it.
10:44I want to do this as good as possible.
10:47I'm never tired of it.
10:48I'm grateful for it,
10:50for everything it's ever been.
10:54To have a hit song is amazing,
10:56but then to have one that lasts for 30 years,
10:59I don't even know how to quantify that.
11:01Every decade sort of has its moment
11:06where the nostalgia kicks in
11:09and the people that grew up on the music
11:13are in their 40s and 50s
11:16and they've gotten to a place in their life
11:19where they're looking back
11:20and sort of taking stock on the things they loved
11:24and then things they love.
11:25And so we're right in that moment now.
11:28And a lot of the artists that came out in the 90s
11:31are still out playing.
11:33And we're sort of just finding each other again
11:35and grouping up and going out and playing shows,
11:39which is a lot of fun.
11:40And I think we benefited from being
11:43the last class of the big time music business
11:47from the early 90s through 99,
11:52I think you could arguably say,
11:53was the zenith of the record industry.
11:56It's not lost on me how lucky we were
11:58to be when we were.
12:01So, and I think that so many people
12:04attached lifetime memories to that era of music
12:08that we get to go back out
12:10and flip through the photo album.
12:12My son, I caught him in the shower.
12:15I could hear him through the door.
12:16He was singing Yacht Rock.
12:18He was like singing an Ambrosia song.
12:20And I was like, what?
12:23So when he got out, I was like,
12:25where did you hear that?
12:26And he goes, Grand Theft Auto.
12:29And so that video game,
12:31you can tune the channels.
12:33And so it has 80s, 90s, 70s, 80s, 90s.
12:37And they learn all this music.
12:39And it goes to show you that a good song's a good song.
12:43And it'll hit any generation.
12:47It doesn't, you know.
12:48But the way that they consume music is interesting
12:51because, and I've watched them kind of go through phases
12:55with SoundCloud.
12:57And they're a lot less loyal to the brands.
13:01You know, they kind of,
13:02they drift in and out of music that they like.
13:05I guess secretly I always wanted to do music as a career.
13:11Like a lot of Southerners,
13:13I was in church choir.
13:15It's like Southern daycare.
13:16As a kid, I was dyslexic.
13:18And so I couldn't read.
13:19I had a really hard time in elementary school.
13:22But I could sing.
13:24And so, you know how it is.
13:25Everybody likes it when I'm singing.
13:27And so I was singing, man.
13:29Listen, because I'm not,
13:30I'm not reading anything for you.
13:34When I left for college,
13:36my father woke me up and said,
13:39listen, I had this terrible nightmare
13:40that you were riding around the country playing music
13:42and promised me you're not going to do that.
13:46And at the time, I was like,
13:47okay, yeah, I promise, whatever.
13:50And then when I got to college,
13:51I was like, well, this isn't fun at all.
13:54Like, I'm sitting in a political science class.
13:56Nah.
13:57So I started busking on the street in Charleston
14:00and quickly picked up a gig
14:02at this little Mexican restaurant.
14:04I was busking on the sidewalk in front of this place.
14:07And the manager came out and goes,
14:09hey, if I pay you 75 bucks and feed you a meal,
14:13can you play here three nights a week?
14:14And I was like,
14:15I went and dropped out of college the next day.
14:18I was like, I'm rich.
14:20And that was it, man.
14:21Once I figured out how to support myself playing music,
14:26that was it.
14:28That's all we were going to do.
14:30My first biggest influence,
14:31I would say, is Earth, Wind, and Fire.
14:33That was sort of the moment I was seven years old
14:36and I put on headphones
14:37and put on this album called All in All.
14:40And the first track is called Serpentine Fire.
14:45Seven-year-old brain blown.
14:47Damn, I went through a phase of Southern California.
14:51It was all R&B and soul in the beginning.
14:55And then it was the Van Halen phase.
14:57There was hair metal phase.
15:00And then there was Southern California punk music phase
15:04that sort of morphed into a songwriter
15:07in Asheville, North Carolina named David Wilcox.
15:10He was really a wordsmith.
15:13And so this weird amalgam of all of that
15:17ended me up here.
15:20I don't know how else to describe it,
15:22but I was always R&B over the,
15:28all my friends were listening to The Beatles and The Doors
15:30and I was listening to Spencer Davis' groove
15:33and Tower of Power.
15:35So that was it.
15:36So about 16, well, 16 and a half or so years ago,
15:44like a lot of people that struggle
15:46with substance use disorder,
15:47I sort of come to the end.
15:49And the end is sort of this bad logic that you get to
15:55where you're like, I can't stop this.
15:58And then, well, there's one way that'll stop it.
16:00And so you come to this sort of really bad logic
16:04and in a sort of final moment of like,
16:08well, let's try, maybe we should try treatment
16:11before we go that drastic.
16:13And I did.
16:15I went and checked into a place called Talbot in Atlanta
16:17and stayed there for 120 days
16:20and learned about what was going on
16:22and began the process of rebuilding.
16:26It was the best thing I ever did.
16:27I talk about it openly whenever I'm asked
16:31because it's been 16 better years
16:35and I'm here today because of it.
16:39So just go ahead and start now.
16:41You know, I put it off for a long time
16:44and I was really high functioning.
16:47I did great.
16:48You know, I was earning at a very high level
16:50when I checked in to rehab.
16:53Earning is not a gauge of how healthy you are as a human.
16:59And I misunderstood so many things
17:01about what was happening
17:02and it's a complicated little game of jingo
17:06we got going on between our ears
17:08and it's real easy to get out of balance.
17:11It's also easy to get it back.
17:13Well, I shouldn't say easy.
17:15It's work to get it back,
17:17but it's not impossible.
17:18But it's the best thing you can do for yourself.
17:22And most of the time when anybody has that,
17:25you know, you hear it in the back of your mind
17:27and I'm going to have to get this under control.
17:29As soon as you have that conversation with yourself,
17:32you know, no better time than the present, I say.
17:39Train.
17:39I used to sit in with them a long time ago.
17:42In fact, I had this moment where I was invited,
17:46weirdly invited to go to the Playboy Mansion
17:48or sit in with Train.
17:50And I was like, I'm going to go sit in with Train.
17:52That sounds like way more fun.
17:53So I've been friends with them, gosh,
17:56since the early 90s.
17:58I look forward to reconnecting with Pat.
18:00I mean, what a great writer.
18:02I mean, his songs are amazing.
18:05So hopefully I can sit in
18:06and sing some of those songs with him too.
18:09As far as people that I've loved working with,
18:11the list is too long
18:13because all the bands from our era,
18:16the friendships are truly the currency of this journey
18:21because, you know, the success or the money,
18:24it comes and goes.
18:26But the friendships are really what's special about it
18:31because you can go anywhere and you have friends.
18:33You make friends all over the world.
18:35I have some friends that are like super famous.
18:38And so the way I show them love
18:40is not by calling them
18:42because I know they're buried under,
18:45they're just,
18:46so they know that when I'm not in contact with them,
18:50that's how I show them love
18:52because I'm just not another person piling on.
18:54So it's different in a lot of different ways.
18:57And it goes in waves, right?
18:59Like I just spent last summer with Hootie and Collective Soul
19:02and we had the best whole summer.
19:05And my manager,
19:06who's been around the block a few times,
19:08he started out with Queen.
19:10He's been on hundreds of tours.
19:12He came up to me about halfway through
19:13and he said,
19:14I've never seen a tour where the bands get along
19:17as well as y'all do.
19:19And I was like,
19:19I know, right?
19:20They're all college friends.
19:22So it does,
19:24it goes in waves.
19:25Like there's periods of time
19:26where I'm in contact with certain bands
19:29all the time.
19:31And then you go in little gaps,
19:33but you always pick up where you left off.
19:41I'd love to work with Seal,
19:42but I can almost guarantee you
19:44he doesn't want to work with me.
19:48I embarrassed myself in front of him so bad a year ago.
19:52I just barged up to him at this thing
19:54and just started talking
19:56and it was,
19:57I couldn't stop myself.
19:58And then when I finally did stop myself,
20:00I just walked away like,
20:01oh.
20:03We're kind of mercenary
20:04when it comes to this tour.
20:06I travel light.
20:08We got fussed at last summer
20:10because I didn't have anything on my rider
20:13except for water and towels.
20:16And the production manager
20:17for this big tour we were on
20:19were like,
20:19come on, man.
20:20Really?
20:20Just going to go water and towels?
20:22And I was like,
20:22well, that's kind of all we need.
20:24And so they were like,
20:25well, that's embarrassing.
20:26So they put chips and salsa
20:28and like Fritos or something on there too.
20:30So we would at least have something in there.
20:33But yeah,
20:33I don't,
20:34I'm not very precious about it.
20:35I mean,
20:35we've been doing this for 35 years.
20:38I drive the bus.
20:39I don't know.
20:40I was always around
20:41bands like the Aquarium Rescue Unit
20:45and Warren Haynes
20:46and the Allman Brothers
20:47and they're not very precious about it.
20:51Everybody sort of treats it like journeymen.
20:55So I've always sort of approached it like that too.
20:58I just walk out and start singing.
21:00I try not to think about it too much
21:01because I think
21:02there was a period of time
21:03where I was thinking about it too much
21:06and it made it worse.
21:07It just created anxiety
21:10when there didn't need to be.
21:12I mean,
21:12now I just walk out
21:13and pick up my guitar and sing.
21:15I play music from,
21:18I think I get
21:19at least music from 10 albums
21:22into the show.
21:24And I'll pick up an audible
21:26from the crowd
21:27every once in a while too.
21:28I have a set list
21:29but everybody laughs.
21:30Guys in my band
21:31laugh at me
21:32because I literally,
21:34it's just suggestions.
21:36I veer off that set list
21:38within three songs.
21:39I'm doing something different.
21:45Now it's so much easier
21:47to do new music
21:49and I have some orphans
21:50left over
21:50that didn't make this record
21:52so I guess
21:53after an appropriate amount of time
21:55I'm going to release
21:56three more songs
21:57and then just release
21:58three more songs
21:58and I think that seems to be
22:00the way everybody's doing it
22:01is they just can
22:02constantly release new songs
22:04over the course of the year
22:05and I've already got
22:07three or four
22:08almost finished.
22:10It's funny how I find
22:12I like this music business
22:14way better
22:15than the music business
22:16that I was in
22:17in the 90s.
22:19It's way cooler.
22:20There have been a lot
22:21of the TikTok artists
22:22that I've been turned on to.
22:26There's a kid
22:27that's opening for me
22:28for the next two shows
22:29that I saw
22:30on a TikTok live
22:31was flipping through
22:32and I was like
22:33what is this
22:33and contacted him
22:35and he's coming to play
22:35and I've had multiple people
22:37from TikTok
22:38coming open
22:39and I wasn't
22:41a TikToker
22:41in fact
22:42I was like
22:43the worst Gen Xer
22:44that was like
22:46never social media
22:47you know
22:48and then
22:49COVID hit
22:51and I was homeschooling
22:53my kids
22:54and I bumbled
22:55into TikTok
22:56and immediately
22:57like everybody
22:58I got sucked in
22:59but the thing
23:00that really sucked me in
23:02was
23:02the highest value
23:04of it
23:05is authenticity
23:06and I was like
23:07oh wait a second
23:08now you can just
23:08be yourself
23:09because that was
23:10the part about
23:11the industry
23:11I didn't like
23:12because there was
23:13always sort of
23:13this pretense
23:14and they're always
23:15building this mystery
23:16and I was like
23:17wait a second
23:18I can just get on here
23:19and be me
23:19100% in
23:21but one of the other
23:22things that I loved
23:22about it
23:23immediately was
23:24I was able to
23:26see other people's
23:28perspective
23:28if you're willing
23:29to spend time
23:30and listen
23:30to other people's
23:32experience
23:32you can learn
23:34so much
23:35and I think
23:36it sort of
23:37grows your empathy
23:38and it allows
23:40you to hear people
23:41and you can
23:43almost instantly
23:44know
23:44if people are
23:46being performative
23:47like the authenticity
23:49is the highest
23:51part of this
23:52and the people
23:53that
23:53and I've made
23:54friends
23:54on TikTok
23:55and I love
23:56the community
23:56and I've made
23:57friends
23:58and learned
23:59things I would
23:59never have learned
24:00and you know
24:01and for all
24:03the negative
24:04things
24:05that social
24:06media has
24:07I see a lot
24:08of positive
24:09that comes
24:10from people
24:11understanding
24:12each other
24:13better
24:13and it's
24:14daily
24:14I'll see
24:15musicians
24:16on social
24:17media
24:17that are
24:18just
24:18staggeringly
24:21great
24:21at a young
24:22age
24:23I can say
24:24this without
24:24fear of
24:25contradiction
24:25that
24:25the level
24:27of talent
24:28at their
24:29age
24:29is so
24:31much
24:32better
24:33than we
24:34were
24:34at 20
24:35and they're
24:3720 something
24:37year old
24:38musicians
24:39and you just
24:39go
24:40wow
24:41and the writing
24:42is deep
24:42and they're
24:44you know
24:45the execution
24:46is flawless
24:47it's impressive
24:50okay
24:51this is your
24:52this is it
24:53this is the last
24:54chance
24:54just tell each
24:55other you love
24:55each other
24:56my kids are
24:58are regularly
25:00embarrassed
25:01by my existence
25:02which I think
25:03is the way
25:03it's supposed
25:03to be right
25:04like my son
25:05is really
25:07knowledgeable
25:08about all
25:08kinds of
25:09different music
25:09and my
25:10daughter
25:11has
25:12pretty eclectic
25:13tastes
25:14none of them
25:15want to be
25:15musicians
25:16I think
25:17for them
25:18you know
25:18they
25:19like my
25:19son
25:20my middle
25:20son
25:21when he was
25:21in third
25:22grade
25:23they were
25:23doing like
25:23what's your
25:24dad do
25:24he told his
25:25class
25:26that I run
25:26a forklift
25:27at a warehouse
25:29which
25:30he's seen me
25:31because we have
25:32a warehouse
25:33and I have a
25:33forklift there
25:34and in his mind
25:35well that's his
25:37job because
25:37he's seen me
25:38play music
25:38but that can't
25:39be a job
25:40right
25:40that's just
25:41a hobby
25:41and so
25:42I kind of
25:43always thought
25:43that was funny
25:44like my dad
25:45drives a forklift
25:47yeah
25:48well that's true
25:49I'm a pilot
25:50I probably would
25:51have flown
25:51airplanes
25:52if I didn't
25:54play music
25:55for a living
25:55you know
25:56that was
25:57that was
25:57I really
25:58I really
25:59used to fly
26:00all the time
26:01and then
26:01once you have
26:02kids
26:02like I kind of
26:03started peeling
26:04off the flying
26:05you know
26:06I sold my
26:07motorcycle
26:08and stopped
26:08flying airplanes
26:09and you know
26:10you got to be
26:11around
26:11you got to be
26:12able to take
26:12care of them
26:12I have side
26:14hustles where
26:14I move dirt
26:15around for people
26:16I have heavy
26:17equipment
26:17so I enjoy
26:18that a lot
26:19so I know
26:20it sounds
26:20insane
26:21but if you
26:22haven't sat
26:22in an excavator
26:23and listened
26:24to a book
26:24on tape
26:25all day
26:25you're living
26:26an incomplete
26:27life
26:27I have a farm
26:29and I build
26:30habitat for
26:31all the little
26:32critters
26:32and so I like
26:33building habitat
26:34and seeing
26:35turkeys and quail
26:36and stuff
26:37deer and stuff
26:38thrive
26:39I don't really
26:40hunt them
26:40I just like
26:41making habitat
26:42for all the
26:43little creatures
26:44so I'm delivering
26:46the boat to
26:46Darius
26:47it's been a long
26:48road
26:48he's not going
26:49to believe
26:49the transformation
26:50I did this show
26:52a while back
26:53called
26:54Flipping Ships
26:55and it was sort of
26:56based around my
26:57love of restoring
26:58old things
26:58but after about
27:00six episodes
27:01of doing television
27:02I was like
27:03I don't want to
27:03do television anymore
27:04television's weird
27:06or well
27:07I tell you this
27:07I would do
27:08television again
27:08as long as
27:09I'm not like
27:10producing and
27:12writing and
27:12doing all the
27:13stuff
27:13I want to
27:14just be told
27:14what to do
27:15I'd be fine
27:16find the balance
27:18between have to
27:20and want to
27:21that's what life
27:22is
27:23you find a good
27:23balance between
27:24what you have to
27:25do and what you
27:26want to do
27:26and there's a
27:28sweet spot in
27:29there
27:29I'd like to be
27:31able to play
27:31for as
27:32I mean as long
27:33as I'm performing
27:34at a high level
27:35and I feel like
27:35what I'm doing
27:36is good
27:37I'd like to see
27:38how long I can
27:39do it
27:39I found years ago
27:40I understand the
27:42concept of enough
27:43like I've been
27:45beyond lucky
27:47in this life
27:49to be able to do
27:49this for 35 years
27:51it's not lost on me
27:53that the reason
27:54that is
27:54is because people
27:55come to the shows
27:57and I love
27:58seeing the same
27:59faces as we
28:01travel around
28:02and I'm just
28:03really grateful
28:04to everybody
28:04that's let me
28:05do this
28:05for this long
28:06I haven't put
28:08unrealistic expectations
28:10on myself
28:11I did early on
28:13and I think
28:14that's what you do
28:15when you're in
28:15your 20s
28:16but then
28:17substituting
28:18gratitude
28:20for avarice
28:21is the best
28:23thing I've done
28:24I love the guys
28:26I play with
28:26some of them
28:28have been with me
28:28for 35 years
28:29and I'm proud
28:32of lasting
28:33this long
28:33you know
28:34hopefully I can
28:35make another
28:365 or 10 years
28:37we'll see
28:38the strands
28:45in your eyes
28:46the color
28:47them
28:48wonderful
28:49stymins
28:50steal
28:51my breath
28:53emeralds
28:56from mountains
28:57thrust towards
28:58the sky
28:59never
29:01revealing
29:02their death
29:04tell me
29:07that we belong
29:09together
29:10dress it up
29:12with the trappings
29:14of love
29:15I'll be captivated
29:18I'll hang
29:20from your lips
29:21stare down
29:22the gaps
29:24of heartache
29:25that hang
29:26from above
29:28and I'll be
29:34your crying shoulder
29:37I'll be
29:39love suicide
29:41and I'll be
29:45better when I'm
29:47old
29:48I'll be
29:50the greatest
29:52fan of your
29:54life
29:55and rain falls
30:02angry on the tin roof
30:04as we lie awake
30:06in my bed
30:08you're my survival
30:11you're my living proof
30:14my love is alive
30:16not death
30:18and tell me
30:21tell me
30:22that we belong
30:24together
30:25dress it up
30:27with the trappings
30:29of love
30:30I'll be
30:31captivated
30:32I'll hang
30:34from your lips
30:35stare at all
30:37gallows
30:38of heartache
30:39that hang
30:41from above
30:43and I'll be
30:49your crying shoulder
30:52I'll be
30:54love suicide
30:56and I'll be
31:00better when I'm
31:02old
31:03I'll be
31:05the greatest
31:07fan of your
31:08life
31:10and I
31:14dropped out
31:15burned up
31:16on my
31:17way back
31:18from
31:19the dead
31:24soon
31:25did
31:26turned off
31:27remember
31:28the thing
31:29that you
31:30you said
31:40and I'll be
31:44your crying shoulder
31:47and I'll be
31:49your crying shoulder
31:50I'll be
31:51love suicide
31:52and I'll be
31:55better when I'm
31:57old
31:58I'll be
32:00the greatest
32:02fan of your
32:04life
32:05and I'll be
32:06the
32:08life
32:09will
32:10be
32:11time
32:13guitar
32:14piano
32:17piano
32:18piano
32:19piano
32:32piano
32:33piano
32:34Pick your pieces up
32:37Wherever the road takes you
32:41I'll be there in the dust
32:44Your stars fade to nothing
32:47Your dreams start to rust
32:51Child, I pray it doesn't
32:53I pray it doesn't
32:56But when it does
33:00Then you feel like heaven's falling
33:02And when it does
33:07You don't know to trust
33:10I can't stop your river rising
33:14I promise you the water won't get rough
33:19But I'll be right here beside you
33:24When it does
33:26I know what it's like to cry out
33:34When all you've got is prayer
33:37And all you hear is silence
33:40Makes you wonder if God was ever there
33:43And I can feel your faith disappear into the air
33:50Child, I hope it doesn't
33:52I pray it doesn't
33:55But when it does
33:59And you feel like heaven's falling
34:02When it does
34:06And you don't know who to trust
34:09And I can't stop your river rising
34:14I promise you the water won't get rough
34:18And I'll be right here beside you
34:23When it does
34:25Ain't no wrong we can't right
34:30No fight we can't fight
34:33The truth is child
34:36Trouble's gonna come
34:38But when it does
34:43But when it does
34:44And you feel like heaven's falling
34:47When it does
34:50And you don't know who to trust
34:53I can't stop your river rising
34:59I promise you the water won't get rough
35:03I wish I could stop the world
35:08From beating you up
35:10But I'll be right here beside you
35:16When it does
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