Susanna Reid clashes with Robert Jenrick over fare dodgers video: 'It's not about you'Credit: Good Morning Britain
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00:00Did you report to the police that you've been told someone was carrying a knife on the tube?
00:04I haven't done. Why not?
00:07Well, I didn't feel the need to do that. Why not?
00:12Well, it's not about me, the video, is it? It's ultimately about raising...
00:16It's absolutely not about you in this case. It's about raising an issue for other people.
00:19Somebody told you that they were carrying a knife on the London Underground and you didn't report it to the police.
00:23Well, there was one person who we met who we did take to the British Transport Police,
00:28but the guy who said that to me, he just walked off straight ahead and so...
00:31I'm absolutely... Sorry, I'm really... I saw the video, I hadn't listened to it and I've just listened.
00:37I travel on the tube, my kids travel on the tube and someone's just told you, a former minister, a shadow minister,
00:44someone who's concerned about policing and obeying the law, you're worried about fair dodging,
00:48I'm worried about people carrying knives and you didn't report it to the police.
00:52Well, look, I've put out the video there, obviously, if the police wanted to investigate it,
00:56but I didn't want this to be about me. This is about raising a point about crime
01:00and trying to push the authorities to take action.
01:03Which do you think is more serious? Do you think it's fair dodging or do you think it's carrying knives?
01:07Well, obviously, if you were to threaten someone with a knife, that's much more serious than fair dodging,
01:11but they're both important issues and that's why I wanted to raise them,
01:15because I think what you've got to have now is all of these issues that we're seeing in our daily lives,
01:19like fair dodging, but it's bigger than that, isn't it?
01:22As you do rightly say, it's having your mobile phone nicked, it's the...
01:25Being threatened or attacked with a knife.
01:27...knife crime in some of our cities.
01:28How does it reach you? I mean...
01:29These things are growing and people feel very concerned and they want the police to step up.
01:33And I don't know...