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00:00John, before we move on to our next segment, is there anything you want to respond to that?
00:03I can see you madly making notes.
00:06Look, the thing, two responses to that.
00:10One is Nigel Farage is going to find the voters do ask the question, does that all add up?
00:16And I don't think at the moment that, and understandably it's a long way from the next election,
00:20but Nigel Farage's promises on benefits, promises on tax relief, tax cuts are very expensive.
00:28And there's no balancing items that he's proposed to actually show how you can make that add up.
00:33But more than that, I disagree with Matt on his diagnosis.
00:40I'm certain the voters in Britain since the Brexit referendum, the rise of Corbyn, the landslide for Johnson, the landslide for Starmer,
00:50they voted for one thing, they voted for change.
00:53The change they want is not about what Matt has described.
00:57But it's a rejection of neoliberalism.
01:00It's a rejection of neoliberal capitalism, the extension of the market into every part of our life.
01:05And that is that thing has been going on since Thatcher in the 70s.
01:09And the issue for me is this.
01:11Farage understands that.
01:12Farage understands people want to move towards some more kind of social democratic state,
01:17more protection for workers, more nationalization, more generous welfare system.
01:21I think that's right.
01:22But I think the people who can do that properly are actually not reformed because their instincts,
01:27in their bones, they actually are more Thatcherite than they are Social Democrat.
01:30That's not their political tradition.
01:33Farage understands people want to move towards some more people.
01:34Farage understands people want to move towards some more people.
01:35Farage understands people want to move towards some more people.
01:36Farage understands people want to move towards some more people.
01:37Farage understands people want to move towards some more people.
01:38Farage understands people want to move towards some more people.
01:39Farage understands people want to move towards some more people.
01:40Farage understands people want to move towards some more people.
01:41Farage understands people want to move towards some more people.
01:42Farage understands people want to move towards some more people.
01:43Farage understands people want to move towards some more people.
01:44Farage understands people want to move towards some more people.
01:45Farage understands people want to move towards some more people.
01:46Farage understands people want to move towards some more people.
01:47Farage understands people want to move towards some more people.
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