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Joe Morelle Presses Navy Admiral About The ‘Integration Of Autonomous Systems’ In The Armed Services
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During a House Appropriations Committee hearing held before the congressional recess, Rep. Joe Morelle (D-NY) questioned Navy and Marine Corps Officials about the Integration of Autonomous Systems.
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gentlemen mr. Morelli yes thank you mr. chairman thank you the ranking member
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and thank you gentlemen for not only for being here for your service if I could
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just follow up mr. Adderhall's a question Admiral can you talk about the
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integration of autonomous systems and unmanned systems with with manned
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systems I know it's attempt to reduce risk to personnel distribute operations
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expand maritime domain awareness what have you learned over the last several
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years in terms of the development and experimentation about how what insights
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have you learned in and sort of how have you used that and will it influence the
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long-term integration of autonomous systems and manned systems so sir we we
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have three fleet areas principally that are working this now task force 59 and
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fifthly task force 66 and sixth fleet and fourthly now there are different needs
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for those I would tell you necessity is the mother of invention so Admiral Cooper
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when he was the fifthly commander found himself ship poor so he invested in
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unmanned technologies to do maritime domain awareness with things like a
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sail drone which is a persistent vessel that can do maritime domain awareness
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similarly fourth fleet has adopted that the work being done in the sixth fleet is
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interesting because it ports right over to support Admiral Koehler and Admiral
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Paparo in the Indo-Pacific because those same technologies can be used there in a
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manner that's effective so it's almost a battle lab for the Indo-Pacific so
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there's learning across all our fleets the geography drives the use case for
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what you need for that but our initial focus is this thing called non-traditional
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sea denial ultimately though I want to get to a hybrid fleet that engages our unmanned
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capabilities alongside our ships supporting our submarines in the air wing
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of the future for man to unmanned teaming so to me that's the future state and and
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last week I was in San Diego with Admiral Paparo and Admiral Koehler looking at
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their experimentation and rehearsal of these very technologies thank you I
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appreciate that I want to maybe if I can just expand on the Indo-Pacific and in the
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use undersea dominance I understand is critical to deterrence and force
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projection I'm concerned about what appears to be a little bit of a mismatch
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between rising demand for anti-submarine or cap capabilities and
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relatively flat funding for key enablers like sonobuies I think I'm saying that
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right it's a weird word inventory levels are reportedly well below the global floor
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which raises questions about anti-submarine warfare could you just I think
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you're spot-on we got ourselves in a in a in a non-effective position for sonobuie
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manufacturers but we've increased our sonobuies for everything but the Mac
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buoy now so we want to get back to that global floor we will continue investment we
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appreciate your support in that investment and it's a key enabler for us to
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invest in but now we have two companies Sparta and Lockheed Martin that are
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individually producing sonobuies they're not producing something that I have to
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be married up together I think that's a much better solution and my last stats are
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about seven percent increase is what we're shooting for every year so I think
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that is an area we definitely need to continue to invest in very good I just
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wanted to come back to something I'm new to this committee and when we had
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secretary Driscoll I think he said something and I'm paraphrasing essentially
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that there were 35,000 people in the in the army related to acquisitions but upon
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further conversation turned out that it seemed like there were about 5,000 the
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rest were engineers and people were involved with sustainment so mr.
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secretary when you say that there's 56,000 people help educate me what what
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does that mean are they actually all doing acquisitions or are they doing other
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things that relate to sustainment and and making sure that the engineering and
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the contracts etc are appropriate thank you for the question congressman there's
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actually close to 80,000 if you count third party and contractors but the total
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number is fifty five thousand eight thirty three of which fifty one thousand four
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thirty eight or civilian in cost estimating their 700 in financial
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management there's 2,127 in contracting their 7,959 in engineering and
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technical management there's 27,031 in lifestyle logistics there's 7,154 in
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program management there's 7,483 test and evaluation is 2,990 other which I'm
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still waiting for is 389 so in and I see him out of time and I apologize perhaps
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we get it just a definition of what all those areas are and what you're when the
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appropriations request comes in how that will match up against those happy to
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follow up with you on it thank you you back sir thank the gentleman for that
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