Episode 29: Lucio Corsi | The Official Eurovision Song Contest Podcast - video Dailymotion

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The Official Eurovision Song Contest Podcast Subscribe and 🔔 to Eurovision 👉 https://www.youtube.com/user/eurovisi... ​  Italy’s Lucio Corsi is bringing his poetic song Volevo Essere Un Duro to the Eurovision stage in Basel.  He sits down with Steve (and his friend & translator Francis) to discuss his love of the quiet life in Tuscany, the meaning behind his song and his pet parrot.   The Official Eurovision Song Contest Podcast is brought to you by Novartis! It is produced and presented for the EBU by Steve Holden. The music is composed by Will Kitchener. Design by Ángela Espejo & Chris Fox.  -​  #Eurovision2025 – May 13, 15 & 17 - See you in Basel! 🇨🇭  📱 Download the app: https://eurovision.page.link/app 💗 Follow #Eurovision on socials: https://linktr.ee/eurovisionsongcontest

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00:00It wouldn't be the podcast without meeting the singer from Italy this year, Lucio Corzi. Hello.

00:06Hello, hello everyone.

00:08My very first important question is, I need to know the names of your pets because I hear they are amazing.

00:15The name of my, an important part of my family, my brother Enea, Enea Corzi, my sister Enea Corzi, two dogs.

00:24Your brother and sister.

00:25Yeah, my brother and sister. And one parrot, a green one, named Track.

00:32Track.

00:33Track, yeah. He's free. Free as a bird.

00:37So no cage. He can go wherever.

00:39Yeah, yeah. He go where he want. And sometimes he comes on my shoulder. Yeah.

00:47And the important thing about parrots, does he know your music? Can he sing or say anything?

00:53No, Track didn't say anything. He's a reserve.

00:57Come si dice? Riservato.

00:59Yeah, it's reserved.

01:00Reserved.

01:00He's a reserved parrot. He lets you do the music instead.

01:03Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:04He doesn't want to take any attention away from you.

01:06Lucio, we're going to find out all about you, your song, and your time here at the Eurovision Song Contest.

01:11This is the official Eurovision Song Contest podcast.

01:14So, Lucio, how has your Eurovision experience felt so far?

01:37It's beautiful. It's interesting. It's a new, big stage, you know, and I'm happy because I can portare bring my music, my song in a so big stage.

01:55It's strange because there are the big camera eyes that scare me. There are a lot of people in the arena, the crowd, and I forgot to stay on TV. This thing is good for me.

02:09But also, I would say San Remo is a big stage as well. You know, there's lots of eyes on you there too.

02:15Yeah, it was a school, a good school.

02:17Yeah, so San Remo was the university and now you've graduated.

02:21Yeah, exactly.

02:23We should say that with you, Lucio, is your good friend Francis, who's going to be translating a little bit if we get into any...

02:29When I'm in trouble, I have with me my friend, photographer, English teacher, Francis de la Croix.

02:37I do everything. Jack of all trades, baby.

02:39Jack of all trades. And also, this is a podcast, but it's a shame because they both have on amazing hats.

02:44It's almost like they are in hat wars together, you know?

02:47Tell us about the song because it's really poetic.

02:52Volevo essere un duro is the name of the song.

02:55I want to be a tough guy.

02:56And it talks about the fact that this world wants us to be perfect like flower or hard like stone,

03:05but it's difficult to be in the reality.

03:11It's difficult to be strong and perfect.

03:13And it's hard to stay in balance on a spherical world, like try to stay on balance on a ball is difficult.

03:24I can't stand in balance on a ball.

03:27So it's about being, it's about life not being easy sometimes.

03:31Yes. And then it talks about now I need Francis' help.

03:38It talks about that sometimes you have the feeling that you dream about being somebody else or something else.

03:44And in the very end, you're perfect as you are.

03:47So there's no need to change it.

03:49It's about accepting yourself.

03:51Also, yes.

03:52Where do you come up with the ideas for your lyrics?

03:55Because like I said, they're really beautiful.

03:57I wrote this song one year ago with Tommaso, another brother for me who is on stage with me with the guitar.

04:06And there are my childhood in the song, not only my childhood, also Tommaso's one and other childhood, other story from other people.

04:20I like to reinventing the past because the future is ever sorprendente.

04:27Basically saying that the future is always surprising in some kind of way.

04:32But in this way, with songs and lyrics, you can also reinvent your past.

04:37Because it diventa sorprendente.

04:38And so you can make the past surprising and do stuff that you never did.

04:42And I guess that comes a little bit with the music video as well.

04:46Yes. And Tommaso is the director of my music video.

04:49And Tommaso is your friend. He's on stage with you.

04:53He's the one that gives you the harmonica, right?

04:55How long have you known him for?

04:57Since we were a child.

04:59Yeah. We are both from Tuscany.

05:04And Maremma is a sort of far west, Italian far west.

05:08A small place in the country, far away from the city, from the big city.

05:12There are a lot of nature and silence and tranquility and I love that place.

05:21I prefer the nature, I prefer Maremma to the city.

05:27We had, when we were a child, we had the time because there was nothing around.

05:36It's not very interesting to live like outside the big city.

05:39But the fact that there was nothing interesting to do, they made me interested in playing music, of course.

05:49And I escaped from reality with imagination with the music.

05:53And it's important. I love Maremma.

05:57So you and Tommaso grew up together, you found music together when you were children.

06:03Yes, yes. And later we moved in Milan. But when I can, I return in my land.

06:10Where it's nice and quiet and peaceful and beautiful, like so much of Italy is.

06:15Yes, yes. And there is a beautiful sea. We are on the sea. Far west. Italian far west.

06:21How many instruments do you play?

06:23I play guitar, piano and harmonica. I'm not virtuoso.

06:28I would say you are because I play none of those and you play three.

06:32But I don't do a difficult part of difficult... But I love playing. I love instruments.

06:41Instruments are fascinating. Since I was a child, I was fascinated by instruments.

06:46Not only the artists, but also the type of instrument.

06:51These artists, like Neil Young, always have his Gibson Les Paul, Black, Emerson from Emerson, Lake & Palmer, the Emond, Emond organ.

07:01Do you feel like the guitar is almost an extra arm?

07:05Yes. A symbol.

07:06Yes. They have a soul. They have an instrument. They are magic things.

07:12And they can stay silent way more than human beings.

07:17The instrument.

07:18We have learned to the instrument how to stay in silence.

07:22And I saw that you said you can play anything because you were playing a blade of grass, right?

07:28Yeah, yeah.

07:29Anything you can make music from.

07:31Yes, sure. And this trick, I learned this trick living in country.

07:37What do all your friends and family back home think about you doing this huge event?

07:43Ah, they are happy. Yeah, yeah. They're waiting for me in Maremma.

07:48And yes, they are all happy from this.

07:51Will they be having a party to watch you?

07:53Maybe. I don't know.

07:55They are very calm.

07:57They're staying very chill at this place.

08:00Italians are...

08:01It's a big party, you know.

08:03Italians keep it cool, right?

08:04But yeah, but my family, yeah, yeah. It's chill.

08:08Can I ask you about your style?

08:10What the costume you wear and the makeup, what's the process behind that?

08:14The costume is the same costume that I use in the last three here, four here.

08:22And the bolero is distrutto.

08:25The bolero, this costume is destroyed.

08:28Yeah, yeah. But I love this fact because they remind me all the performance, all the time.

08:38I like, I think, Paolo Conte, an italian songwriter, talks in a song, say that on the stage you meet,

08:47you have an appointment with the music, with the song.

08:50So you have to dress in a better way, you can, because you meet, yes, the people, but you meet first the music.

09:00And it's a beautiful thing to think.

09:03So the bolero jacket, that's the same one you've had for four years.

09:07Yes.

09:07It's like, again, it's part of you. It feels good luck to have it.

09:12Yes, yes. It's part of me. And I want to bring on the stage of the Eurovision the same approach,

09:20because it's a big stage, but it's a stage like a small one. Every stage has the same dignity.

09:27Italy at Eurovision is what we call a powerhouse. Do you have your own Eurovision memories?

09:33Oh, yeah, yeah. The Maniskin one, sure.

09:37But always, there are other countries, the Abbas, the Abbas one is important.

09:43It's one important thing of Eurovision, most important than competition is meet other culture,

09:51other music from other countries. And this is the important thing. Yeah.

09:56Have you met, who have you met this year that you've bonded with?

09:59Yeah, I love the Portugal guys.

10:02Napa.

10:03Napa.

10:03Yeah, yeah. And Gojo.

10:05Yeah, from Australia.

10:06I met him in Rome.

10:08Did you?

10:09Yeah, casually, in the street.

10:11Just by chance?

10:12Yeah, the world is little, it's small.

10:15The world is tiny.

10:16Yeah, exactly. And Tommy Cash, I meet here in the hotel. Great. I repeat, it's a beautiful

10:25thing to know someone who lives in a different country and with a different type of language.

10:33So, in Rome, did you see Gojo or did he see you?

10:37But we see each other because we, um, abbiamo voltato l'angolo.

10:42Yeah, they turn a corner and basically they're in front, in front of one.

10:46It's you, it's you, it's you. We're doing the same thing.

10:49Yeah.

10:50Yeah.

10:51And also, Tommy Cash, um, you've got, you know, the, the, the hair, you could be twins from

10:56different countries.

10:57Yes.

10:57You know?

10:58The same hair.

10:59Just don't have a mustache, did you?

11:00I don't, um, the, I don't have a mustache. I don't have, I don't have, I don't have,

11:03I don't have, I don't have, I don't have, I don't have, I don't have a beard.

11:04Yeah, beard doesn't grow on him.

11:06Yeah, yeah. I, I, I, I want the, I want the, I want the sideburns.

11:12Like Blues Brother, but they don't grow on me.

11:16What did you, um, think when Måneskin won for Italy? That was a huge moment, not just

11:22for Eurovision, but for Italy.

11:24Yes, yes, I was very happy. Francis collaborated with Måneskin for a long time.

11:30I started before, like the, before Sanremo and then they won Sanremo. Then I was in Rome

11:36when they won Eurovision, I remember, because there's another friend of mine, Aurora, who

11:40works for them and we're all happy, like celebrating around Rome. Covid just ended. It was like spring,

11:48May, sun was out. It was fantastic. I mean, it was like a really funny and strange moment

11:55for all my friends in Italy.

11:57What's been some of your, um, highlights of the last two weeks here?

12:01Highlights from these, um, days. Uh, I love when, um, we are going, we are, um, come

12:07si abbiamo, come si abbiamo andati in campagna, in the countryside of Basel.

12:12Oh, went in the countryside, yeah. That was funny.

12:14And played, and played for, uh, cows. Yeah, yeah. Beautiful moment. And, um...

12:19Wait, you played for the cows?

12:20Yeah.

12:21Yeah.

12:21In a, in a...

12:22What happened?

12:22Yeah.

12:23Well, it was a great audience.

12:24Nobody booed, at least.

12:28They mooed.

12:29They mooed, yes.

12:30One of the cows, um...

12:31One crazy cows, they're just like, uh, maybe she was a big fan, I don't know.

12:36And then, uh, you know, when it's like, tried to chase us.

12:39One bull in the, in the field, and, uh, Tom, Tommaso have a red guitar.

12:44Oh, and they saw it.

12:45Bravo.

12:46And you had the bolero jacket as well.

12:48And we run away.

12:49I don't think, I don't, I don't think I've ever met a Eurovision contestant who's done,

12:53who sang for the cows.

12:54It's a different approach, but I like it.

12:56Yeah, but I, I, I search, uh, similar Maremma vibes, you know.

13:01I get it.

13:01Mascani vibes in, in, here in Basel.

13:05Uh, also this year, there's you representing Italy.

13:08We've got Gabriele Ponte representing San Marino with Tutta l'Italia.

13:12And Tommy Cash with Espresso Macchiato.

13:14And, uh, yeah, yeah, a lot of Italy in this Eurovision.

13:17I like it.

13:18It's making you feel at home.

13:20Yeah, yeah.

13:20I am here with my friend, Francis, Tommaso, my group, or my, I feel at home.

13:26It is important for me to stay on the stage also with my friend.

13:31When I play, when I was in tour, I have the same band since the high school.

13:36Same friend.

13:37And this is important.

13:39Change everything.

13:40It's not a, um, non è un'esecuzione tecnica.

13:43Basically, it's not a technical execution.

13:45It's not like a bunch of professionals.

13:47I mean, there are professionals that you go on the stage and just play the thing.

13:50But it's also a group experience, a common experience with friends.

13:54Yeah.

13:54It sounds like there's a lot of loyalty amongst you and your friends.

13:59It's a real lealtà.

14:00Ah, yeah, sure, sure, sure.

14:02It seems like there's a lot of friendship, trust, and that makes you feel comfortable on stage.

14:07Exactly, exactly. It's important.

14:09And it just so happens to be at the biggest music event in the whole wide world.

14:12Oh, it's incredible. It's a fortune.

14:16Lucio, I love that you're loving Eurovision.

14:18It's great to have you part of it.

14:20And it's, you know, we always love the Italians.

14:23You are bringing something beautiful on stage.

14:25So thank you for coming.

14:27And thank you for being on the official Eurovision Song Contest podcast.

14:30Thank you. Grazie a tutti. Ciao. Grazie.

14:32Grazie a tutti.

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