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00:00Although it was a coincidental victory, all the defeats were inevitable.
00:07How did the foreigners, who had colored the history of Japan, lose?
00:13What were the causes and mistakes behind it?
00:18This time, we will focus on the defeat of Okubo Toshimichi, who led the Meiji New Government.
00:28In the midst of the construction of a modern country, Japan,
00:33the civil war between the Aizu and Fuhei clans was suppressed,
00:37and the friendship with Saigo Takamori was severed.
00:40What was the reason for the end that could not be met?
00:46The philosophy of life learned from the failures of the defeated.
00:53The Lesson from the Defeat of Foreigners
01:03What do we learn from the failures of the foreigners in history?
01:10This is Yuri Nakanishi, the voice of Shinko, the lesson from the defeat of foreigners.
01:15And this is Jun Ito, the historian.
01:17Thank you for joining us today.
01:20Last time, we focused on the defeat of Eto Shinpei.
01:24In the early Meiji period, there was a rebellion by the clans all over Japan.
01:29Yes.
01:30The Saga War in Meiji 7,
01:33the Jinpuren Rebellion in Kumamoto, which broke out at the same time in October of Meiji 9,
01:39the Akizuki Rebellion in Fukuoka, the Hagi Rebellion in Yamaguchi,
01:42and the famous Seiran War in Meiji 10.
01:45These are called the clans' rebellions.
01:48Not only the clans' rebellions,
01:50but also the assassinations of the government officials,
01:53as well as the misuse of power, are included in the clans' rebellions.
01:57This time, I'd like to focus on the defeat of Okubo Toshimichi,
02:01who, while suppressing the clans' rebellions one after another,
02:06fell to the clans' swords.
02:11Speaking of Okubo,
02:13he is the third son of Ishin, along with Saigo Takamori and Kido Takayoshi.
02:17What kind of image does he have?
02:20Speaking of Okubo,
02:22he is a politician who is ready to do anything.
02:26He is determined to do what he believes in.
02:29Sometimes, he is too conservative.
02:33I can see such a person in him.
02:35He is not a cold-blooded politician.
02:40This time, we will explore the teachings of Okubo Toshimichi
02:44and the teachings of Okubo Toshimichi in the modern era.
02:47First, let's see what kind of person Okubo Toshimichi was.
02:54Okubo Toshimichi, who is known as Ishin Sanketsu,
02:57along with Saigo Takamori and Kido Takayoshi,
03:01was born as the eldest son of Okubo Toshiyo,
03:04a lower-class samurai of the Satsuma clan in 1830.
03:10He met Saigo, who was three years older than him,
03:13and encouraged him to study martial arts.
03:18Okubo, who was 17 years old when he joined the Satsuma clan,
03:22later became close to Shimazu Hisamitsu,
03:25who was the father of the Satsuma clan,
03:28and attracted the attention of the central government.
03:32Okubo Toshimichi was aiming to form an alliance
03:35between the emperor and his father-in-law,
03:38but he was eventually defeated.
03:42However, in 1867,
03:45the 15th Shogun Tokugawa Yoshinobu
03:48carried out a coup d'etat,
03:50and the alliance collapsed.
03:54Okubo, who feared that Yoshinobu would continue his experiments,
03:58together with Tomomira Iwakura,
04:01a member of the Toba clan,
04:04carried out the coup d'etat.
04:07Okubo, who became one of the leaders of the Meiji New Government,
04:10carried out the coup d'etat,
04:13and established the central government.
04:25Okubo, on the other hand,
04:28became the vice-principal of the Shisetsudan,
04:31who made Iwakura the prime minister,
04:34and established the Obei Shokoku.
04:38In the midst of this, he was suddenly ordered to return to Japan.
04:44What awaited him was a debate within the government
04:47about how to respond to the Korean War.
04:51Okubo opposed his best friend Saigōra
04:54and expelled them from the central government.
04:59After that, Okubo became the first principal
05:02of the Shokusan industry,
05:05which was established by Okubo's father.
05:09The Meiji New Government was dissatisfied with Okubo's decision,
05:12and the Fuhei clan decided to suppress Okubo.
05:15The Meiji New Government was dissatisfied with Okubo's decision,
05:18and the Fuhei clan decided to suppress Okubo.
05:21When his best friend Saigōra started a war,
05:24Okubo was unable to persuade him,
05:27and died.
05:30Only eight months later,
05:33Okubo was attacked by the Fuhei clan,
05:36and lost his life.
05:40It was the moment of Okubo's defeat.
05:45Why did Okubo lose his life?
05:50In this episode, we take a closer look
05:53at Okubo Toshimichi's defeat.
05:56Okubo Toshimichi's Defeat
06:00Now, let's look back at Okubo Toshimichi's life.
06:05I heard that Okubo is not as popular as Saigōra,
06:08who was also from Satsuma.
06:11Is that true?
06:16During the Seinan War,
06:19many of the Kagoshima residents lost their loved ones.
06:22So, Okubo Toshimichi was hated by many people.
06:25Also, during the Seinan War,
06:28Okubo Toshimichi was provoked by Saigōra.
06:31So, Okubo Toshimichi was not as popular as Saigōra.
06:34So, Okubo Toshimichi was not as popular as Saigōra.
06:37Okubo Toshimichi was a man
06:40who was ready to bear the consequences
06:43of his own actions.
06:46So, Okubo Toshimichi was a man
06:49who was ready to bear the consequences of his own actions.
06:52I think that he was compared to Saigō Takamori.
06:55What kind of feelings did Okubo Toshimichi have towards Okubo?
06:58I think that Okubo Toshimichi had the same feelings.
07:01He felt that Okubo could not cope with the new era
07:04due to the situation of the bomb.
07:07But Yoshinobu Tokugawa was at the center of the political scene at that time.
07:10He would become the 15th Shogun.
07:13He was a man
07:16From his wife's point of view, he was a very cunning man.
07:20He had to deal with such a cunning man.
07:24So he gave Yoshinobu a hard time.
07:27On the other hand, Yoshinobu thought that Yoshinobu would be punished
07:31if Yoshinobu didn't defeat Yoshinobu by force.
07:34That was the sense of danger that Saigo and Okubo had.
07:37How did Okubo, who had known Saigo since childhood,
07:40live through the end of the Gekido and open a new era of Meiji?
07:44Let's take a look.
07:47Kagoshima City, Kagoshima Prefecture.
07:50This is the city where Okubo and Saigo were born.
07:56Okubo Toshimichi and Saigo Takamori.
08:00Why did the two of them decide to share the family name?
08:07Okubo and Saigo, who were three years older than Okubo,
08:11were more interested in learning than martial arts.
08:20Okubo was 17 years old when he joined the Satsuma Clan.
08:24However, four years later, he was involved in a family conflict
08:27involving the heirs of the Hanshu Clan.
08:29His father was acquitted and he himself was sentenced to death.
08:35The late Okubo Yoko, a descendant of Okubo Toshimichi,
08:40imagined the situation at the time.
08:45I think I'm going to be depressed,
08:48but I have to live anyway.
08:52Will my family be killed or will I live?
08:58Or will I not be able to get any help?
09:01Or will I be driven out of my neighborhood?
09:07I don't know.
09:10He was suddenly deprived of food.
09:13He had to raise his mother and three younger sisters.
09:19Saigo was the one who reached out to the 21-year-old Okubo
09:22who had fallen into a predicament.
09:27Mr. Katsuta, the first-year student of Okubo Toshimichi Research,
09:32suspects that the two had a common interest.
09:40I think he had a sense of what politics was
09:45when he thought that something like this was going to happen.
09:52Three years later, Okubo, who had been sentenced to death, decided
09:58to become the president of the country along with Mr. Saigo.
10:04In the midst of all this, a group of scholars,
10:07led by Perry, organized a protest.
10:13Okubo approached Shimazu Hitamitsu,
10:16who was in charge of the Sasuma case,
10:19and set out to create a new system that would be able to resist foreign powers.
10:27The so-called Koubu Gattai,
10:29where the authority of the court, the shogunate, and the shogunate are united
10:33to strengthen the shogunate system.
10:39Hitamitsu gave various opinions to the court and the shogunate.
10:45Okubo was the one who took the initiative.
10:49In that sense, Okubo was Hitamitsu's brain.
10:54Okubo took the initiative and acted to adjust the situation.
11:01When he was surrounded by a tense atmosphere,
11:05Okubo took an unexpected action.
11:10He lifted up a tatami mat, turned it around,
11:14and soothed the situation.
11:21Mr. Toya, an international political economist who is also familiar with Meiji Shinshu,
11:27talks about Okubo's temperament and political stance.
11:33I think he was a mischievous person.
11:37But in the case of Okubo, even though he was a mischievous person,
11:43when he was acting as a politician,
11:47I don't think he did politics with that in mind.
11:54The 15th Shogun Yoshinobu, who tried to maintain the influence of the shogunate
11:59while the political situation was in turmoil, came up with a plan.
12:04He changed the government to the imperial court.
12:09The so-called system change.
12:12What was his aim?
12:15By changing the government to the imperial court,
12:19he was trying to get rid of the martial law.
12:23Another reason was that the imperial court
12:26immediately realized that he couldn't get involved in politics.
12:30So he decided to take the role of the shogun
12:35in the prime minister's meeting,
12:38where Yoshinobu was still the shogun.
12:43Okubo approached a certain person to oppose Yoshinobu.
12:50Tomomi Iwakura of Kuge.
12:54Basically, the imperial court is the center.
12:58Who can be the center of the imperial court in the future?
13:03That's what Tomomi Iwakura noticed.
13:08Okubo visited Tomomi Iwakura, who lived in the suburbs of Kyoto,
13:12and called for an alliance.
13:17Okubo wanted to take the authority of the imperial court,
13:20and Tomomi Iwakura wanted to use Satsuma's martial law.
13:23Tomomi Iwakura and Tomomi Iwakura agreed,
13:26and they decided to change the imperial court
13:29to get rid of the martial law,
13:32and to run the new government with a new political system.
13:41It's the coup d'etat.
13:46Tomomi Iwakura proposed the coup d'etat,
13:50and he had a strong determination.
13:57I will kill Yoshinobu,
14:00and I will change the system as soon as possible.
14:04That's what I want.
14:07I will not refuse.
14:12The battle between the new government and the old government took place.
14:20It was a fierce battle.
14:24At that time, Saigo was in charge of the new government.
14:30We were both influenced by the history,
14:35and Saigo told me,
14:38I will do what I can.
14:43Okubo decided to act in the village,
14:46and he had a big role to play.
14:52He made the flag of the new government,
14:55which is a symbol of the new government.
14:59It's a symbol of the new government.
15:02It's a symbol of the new government.
15:06The new government won the war of self-defence
15:09that took place all over the country.
15:16The birth of the Meiji government.
15:18Okubo started to act in earnest.
15:42Okubo became the main member of the Meiji government,
15:45and he made a great deal of trouble for the new government.
15:50He abolished the Meiji government,
15:52and took over the Meiji government,
15:54which was directly related to the government.
15:57However, some people lost their jobs because of this.
16:04The Meiji army was disbanded.
16:07Many people lost their jobs because of this.
16:11Many people lost their jobs because of this.
16:15An unarmed group of people,
16:17dissatisfied with the Meiji government,
16:19was born.
16:21In the midst of this,
16:23a big change came to Okubo.
16:27Tomomi Iwakura was appointed as the head of the secret police.
16:30He was appointed as the head of the secret police.
16:33He was appointed as the head of the secret police.
16:36He was appointed as the head of the secret police.
16:38He was appointed as the head of the secret police.
16:43Okubo was impressed by the British power,
16:46which had made a remarkable development
16:48by the industrial revolution.
16:54In the UK,
16:56I saw the factories and refineries.
17:00I saw the factories and refineries.
17:03It shows the riches of Japan.
17:06There was no position for transport.
17:08There was no position for transport.
17:11It was railroads and bridges.
17:14The deployment was surprising.
17:17There were railroads in the whole country.
17:20There were railroads in the whole country.
17:22I think these impacts were great.
17:24I think these impacts were great.
17:26Probably even more so
17:28than the impact of the sinking ships.
17:30I think that's what I felt.
17:33It's rare for Okubo to show weakness.
17:38For someone his age like me,
17:41the future is very bleak.
17:45But if he was determined to do something,
17:48to fulfill his duty,
17:51I think it would be a waste of time.
17:55He had flexibility.
17:57Okubo reconsiders while touring around European countries.
18:04If we develop the industry,
18:07the dissatisfied people will have jobs,
18:10and the country will be rich.
18:15Okubo decided to start a food industry as soon as he returned.
18:22However, he faces an unexpected obstacle.
18:27Okubo is facing an unexpected obstacle.
18:31From the end of the Edo period to the beginning of the Meiji era,
18:35Okubo is always in the shadows.
18:38That's how much Okubo's presence is.
18:41Okubo's presence is huge.
18:44Saigo compares Okubo's talent with his own.
18:48He says,
18:50he is determined to build a house,
18:53but Okubo is better suited for fine decoration.
18:55However, when it comes to building a house,
18:58Okubo is better suited.
19:01Saigo is better suited for building a house.
19:05Okubo is better suited for building a house.
19:09Okubo is less imaginative,
19:12but he is better at arranging things.
19:15That's what I think.
19:18Okubo's work in the New Government
19:21is a case of dissatisfaction.
19:23At first, there was a lot of resistance.
19:26But Okubo doesn't compromise.
19:29He says,
19:31he will cut down the rebellion
19:34and the unruly.
19:36However,
19:38Okubo is better suited than Saigo.
19:41Okubo is better suited than Saigo.
19:44Okubo is better suited than Saigo.
19:47Saigo is better suited than Okubo.
19:49Okubo is better suited than Saigo.
19:52Okubo is better suited than Saigo.
19:55Okubo is better suited than Saigo.
19:58Okubo is better suited than Saigo.
20:01Okubo is better suited than Saigo.
20:04Okubo is better suited than Saigo.
20:07Okubo is better suited than Saigo.
20:10Okubo is better suited than Saigo.
20:13Okubo is better suited than Saigo.
20:16Okubo is better suited than Saigo.
20:19Okubo is better suited than Saigo.
20:22Okubo is better suited than Saigo.
20:25I guess that was a big shock when he went abroad for the first time.
20:30To achieve industrial revolution,
20:33to achieve industrialization,
20:36you need to have a strong internal system.
20:39If you don't have a strong internal system,
20:42the gap will widen even more.
20:45He went abroad and found what he should do.
20:47But it seems that he should be careful
20:50about what he does in the meantime.
20:57While in abroad, Okubo was called back to Japan.
21:01He was waiting for the opposition in the government
21:04and the rebellion against the new government.
21:07Okubo was in a big trouble one after another.
21:10But it was the countdown to his defeat
21:13that shortened his life.
21:17After returning to Yokohama, Okubo was shocked by the development of the United States of America and became a member of the Sanigi, a government farm, and planned for 30 years to turn Japan into a modern country.
21:33Until the 10th year of the Meiji era, he was in the early stages of his career, and until the 20th year of the Meiji era, he was in the middle of his career. He hoped that the next 10 years would be a good one.
21:58However, during his return to Japan, he had a conflict with Saigo, who was in charge of the government in Russia.
22:09I will become a member of the Korean government myself.
22:15If you do that, it will be a war.
22:19The Meiji government was looking to formally establish a diplomatic relationship with North Korea, which was at war at the time.
22:29However, North Korea was threatened by Japan, which was advancing Westernization, and refused to do so.
22:39Saigo demanded immediate dispatch of the facility, but Okubo strongly opposed it, saying that if Saigo of the Sanigi was killed, he would not be able to avoid war.
22:55However, the two had a common goal.
23:01Saigo and Okubo had the same goal, which was to establish a diplomatic relationship with Japan.
23:12At the time, Japan was in an unequal relationship with the U.S.
23:20Saigo was forced to abandon his right to self-determination, which meant that he could not judge foreigners in Japan.
23:34Saigo's goal was to make foreign countries change their view of Japan by shaking off Japan.
23:41By doing so, Japan would be able to re-establish a diplomatic relationship with the U.S.
23:47So, a diplomatic relationship is a means of re-establishing a diplomatic relationship.
23:52However, Okubo did not do that.
23:56Okubo thought that a diplomatic relationship would lead to a war.
24:01He thought that a diplomatic relationship would be a waste of the food industry, which he had been thinking about for decades.
24:07So, Saigo decided to establish a diplomatic relationship with Japan.
24:14However, Okubo did not back down.
24:19This is the Nishinomiya Shrine in Hyogo Prefecture.
24:24In the background is the Roku-e-do, a residence used by Iwakura Tomomi in Tokyo.
24:32Okubo made a deal with Iwakura here.
24:38Then, he went to the Kunai Shrine to borrow the power of the Emperor to force him to re-establish his right to self-determination.
24:49Saigo, who was angry at Okubo's defiance, abandoned his right to self-determination and left the government.
24:58He left a message to Okubo.
25:02I'm counting on you, Aton.
25:06Okubo did not know what he had been told.
25:11Saigo was always quiet and reserved.
25:16However, he did not know that if he persuaded Okubo, Okubo would come out.
25:27After that, Okubo became the director of the Ministry of the Interior, and the Meiji government was also at the top.
25:38The Okubo regime was born.
25:43Okubo acted strongly.
25:47What was the end of it?
25:57Okubo wanted to boost the power of the people and promote the agriculture industry.
26:06There was not much power for the people.
26:10So, he put the power into the irrigation business.
26:14And when it was on the track, he gave it to the people.
26:18It was a payment scheme.
26:20It was a business that was so dense.
26:24Okubo supports the Tomioka Farm, which produces kiwifruits.
26:31In addition, he built a test ground for agriculture and ranching in the current Shinjuku Fish Park, and encouraged the development of agriculture.
26:43Okubo also built a garden in a separate garden.
26:48He grew his own crops and experimented with them.
26:56I was very interested in how he developed Japanese agricultural technology.
27:05Chapter 3
27:10In 1874, Eto Shinpei, who left the government with Saigo, started the Saga Rebellion.
27:18The people were divided into two groups.
27:26When the government was formed, there was no official government.
27:29And the newspapers were just starting to be published.
27:34There was no parliament, so there was no chance to make a statement.
27:42It was hard to understand what the people at the time were thinking and doing.
27:54Okubo suppressed those who opposed the government by force.
28:01This led to the rebellion of the unarmed clans.
28:08And the biggest battle that Okubo did not expect happened.
28:16Chapter 4
28:20In 1877, the unarmed clans of Kyodo Kagoshima rebelled.
28:29It was the outbreak of the South Seas War.
28:34Okubo did not believe that Saigo was involved at all.
28:42I'm the only one who knows where Saigo is.
28:47But I know that he is led by the leader of the rebellion.
28:54This is what Okubo said when he approached him.
29:01Okubo said,
29:03Is that so? And he cried.
29:10Okubo's tears were only once in his life, except when he was a child.
29:20Okubo said that he would hold a temporary meeting to persuade Saigo to go to Kagoshima.
29:30However, he was strongly opposed and had no choice but to give up.
29:38And at the end of the struggle, Saigo killed himself.
29:51It was three days before he died.
29:55Okubo said that he had a strange dream.
30:02It was a very ominous dream that Saigo fell off a cliff and died.
30:16Okubo's suicide notice was sent to Okubo himself.
30:20Okubo was prepared to be attacked at any time.
30:34The luxury house where Okubo used to live.
30:41At 8 a.m., Okubo left his home in Kasumigasaki and headed to his workplace by carriage.
30:51However, Okubo's two-year-old granddaughter didn't let him go.
30:59When Okubo got on the carriage and looked around, he finally stopped crying.
31:08When Okubo left the house, he had a gun in his pocket.
31:16However,
31:18he didn't have a gun at the time of the incident,
31:25so he had to leave the gun in his pocket and clean the house.
31:36Okubo's suicide notice
31:41At that time, Okubo lived in Kiyoi-cho, Chiyoda-ku, which was called Shimizudani.
31:47Mr. Toya told us the details of the incident at the scene.
31:52Six people were said to have cut the horse's legs with a long sword to stop the carriage.
32:00I opened the door of Okubo's carriage and attacked Okubo.
32:06One of the blind people said,
32:10Okubo stared at himself in pain or regret.
32:16I still can't forget his expression.
32:21The place where Okubo was killed was a deep valley where there was no place to escape.
32:30Okubo, Aware, Masayume's Defeat
32:381949
32:42In just a year before Okubo left this world,
32:47Kido Takayoshi died and Saigo was chased by an earthquake.
32:53He was a man of great virtue and a man of great integrity.
32:57He was a man of great integrity and a man of great integrity.
33:02He did not see the perfection of modern nation, but he put an end to his life.
33:10I feel like it's a dramatic and dramatic end.
33:16I'm sure there are many things you want to do if you're determined.
33:22I think it was a bad year.
33:25It was a bad year.
33:28According to Okubo's 30-year plan, he was going to do his best for another 10 years.
33:33When Okubo came back from abroad, the government of Russia was making reforms on its own.
33:39Was this the cause of the conflict?
33:43This was a big cause.
33:45Before Okubo left, the government of Russia made a decision on the main policy.
33:52It was a 12-page medical book.
33:56But Saigo ignored it.
33:59He kept trying to implement the main policy, such as the implementation of the Constitution of the Soviet Union,
34:03the reform of the Constitution of the Soviet Union, the constitution of students, the opening of railways, and the adoption of solar energy.
34:09Was Okubo hurt by his promise to protect himself?
34:13Or was the content of the proposed policy different from what he had in mind?
34:19Which one was he angry with?
34:22I think Okubo was angry with the White House, the new government of the Meiji era, for drawing a picture on their own.
34:27I think that's what it is.
34:30In particular, Saigo didn't know about the facility to send people to North Korea.
34:34If Saigo was killed, it would be a war.
34:37If it was a war, the budget would have to be reduced.
34:39That's what Saigo said at the end.
34:42He said that Okubo's extradition was extended by a year.
34:45The Meiji government, which had just been established, couldn't not launch a new policy for more than a year and a half.
34:50That's right.
34:52Don't do anything to another government.
34:54I think it's a pretty reckless request.
34:56I think it's a reckless request.
34:58If it's about half a year, you can put up with it.
35:01If you don't come back, you can move on.
35:04What was Okubo's political sentiment?
35:07Here is Jun Ito's point of view, looking at the back of history from the point of view of a historian.
35:16Okubo's idea is that politics should be managed by a select few elites.
35:22In other words, it means that national rights are prioritized over civil rights.
35:26If you recognize civil rights before taking a national security policy, the national security policy will be abolished and Japan will be made a strong economy.
35:35That's what Okubo had in mind.
35:37It's exactly what Shinpei Eto wanted to do.
35:40It's exactly the opposite of the idea of prioritizing civil rights for each and every citizen.
35:45It's exactly the opposite.
35:47However, there are pros and cons.
35:50I think it's a difference in order.
35:53That's right.
35:55Okubo's idea is that national security policy should be prioritized over civil rights.
35:58It means that after Japan becomes a strong country, it will introduce a democratic system.
36:04That's why Okubo never ignores civil rights.
36:09Of course, he knows that one day he will have to establish a parliament.
36:13However, Okubo's idea is that there are things to be done before that.
36:17What kind of thoughts did Okubo have when he saw Eto and the last rebellion?
36:22I think Okubo had a strong belief that he should take a national security policy.
36:31The government forces and the Kyusatsumaga faction have 14,000 soldiers.
36:38I think it's wrong to take all the responsibility at the end.
36:42I think Okubo had a part of the responsibility.
36:45Okubo was assassinated by the Fuhei clan.
36:49I think Okubo couldn't prevent it.
36:53I think Okubo was careless.
36:56However, the assassination group had issued a notice that they would assassinate Okubo.
37:05I think Okubo should have been more careful.
37:08It's the same for everything.
37:11Everyone wants to think that they are safe.
37:15That's right.
37:16It's the same for accidents and diseases.
37:19I think Okubo should have been more careful.
37:25If there is even a little bit of anxiety, he will do his best to remove it.
37:31If he doesn't do this, he will not be able to take his life.
37:38Okubo was determined to take his life.
37:42However, his feelings were carried over and became a form.
37:46He looks at the dream and future that Okubo drew.
37:50Koriyama City, Fukushima Prefecture, once flourished as a residential area.
37:56There was a vast wasteland around it.
38:02Okubo paid attention to it and planned a major business.
38:09It is a marriage business that brings prosperity to the land.
38:14Okubo had a clear goal.
38:20The Tohoku region was a land that had been devastated by the Warring States Period.
38:26By introducing the Shizoku here, the land will be expanded and the production of land will increase.
38:33The labor force will be secured and the Shizoku will be saved.
38:37By doing this, the Shizoku will be able to produce more land.
38:42This will lead to a total of three or four Shizoku.
38:47The water from the Inawashiro Lake will bring prosperity to the land.
38:53Okubo decided to make the entire country's old Shizoku live on this work.
38:58The water will continue to flow into the rice fields.
39:04This is Asaka Sosui, which was opened by a labor force of 850,000 people.
39:13The big business was achieved four years after Okubo was assassinated.
39:20Even now, the Okubo family has a large number of Shizoku.
39:25Even now, the Okubo family receives delicious rice from Fukushima every year.
39:32First of all, I am grateful to God.
39:37It makes me feel very warm.
39:40Even now, I am glad to know that I am a part of their lives.
39:50Okubo Toshimichi worked hard to see the future of Japan.
39:55The weapon that took his life was put in the police station.
39:59The history of Okubo Toshimichi is passed on to the present.
40:05I lived to live, and I died to die.
40:10In Shomi, the people who were created by the times
40:19move and act with the waves of the times.
40:26We are learning the results of that.
40:34If Okubo Toshimichi had not fallen to the Kyojin at that time,
40:39Japan might have been on a completely different path.
40:51Okubo Toshimichi not only suppressed the Shizoku,
40:54but also thought about the lives of the Shizoku.
41:00The Asaka Reservoir is a large-scale agriculture and fishing business in Koriyama City, Fukushima Prefecture.
41:07It is one of the three largest reservoirs in Japan.
41:11It's like a large version of the water supply.
41:15This is the first Shizoku reservoir to stabilize the lives of the old samurai class.
41:24It is about 3 years old and costs 4.1 million yen.
41:28It is currently worth 4 billion yen.
41:32It took this much money to build a 52 km long reservoir.
41:38The water supply became abundant, and the agricultural production in this area rose dramatically.
41:44In the Edo period, there were only 30,000 households.
41:47In the Meiji period, there were 50,000 households, and in the Taisho period, there were 100,000 households.
41:54There are many things that Okubo Toshimichi did, but I think it was a great success.
42:03It's a great story that Okubo Toshimichi still delivers the rice he made to his descendants every year.
42:13How do you evaluate Okubo Toshimichi, Ito-san?
42:19I don't think there is a greater leader than Okubo Toshimichi.
42:24Without Okubo Toshimichi, the Meiji government would not have existed.
42:28But I still think that the Shizuoka Rebellion was able to be avoided.
42:33You think it was able to be avoided, so it's even more regrettable?
42:37Yes, it's even more regrettable.
42:39I think that Okubo Toshimichi's greatness is still a little lacking.
42:45Now, once again, please give us a lesson on life that we should learn from the defeat of Okubo Toshimichi.
42:51Yes, it is to know one's own adequacy.
42:55I think that everyone can admit that Okubo Toshimichi was a great revolutionary.
43:00He ended the bombing with such a great move.
43:04However, if you ask me if he was a great politician, I don't think so.
43:09I think there was a misfortune that he was assassinated in the process of becoming a great politician.
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