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🏆 Scottish Cup Final Preview | PLZ Football Show -  Peter Martin, Alan Rough & Tam McManus on Aberdeen v Celtic, Michael Wimmer’s shock exit, Livingston fans spitting, and Rangers’ next manager  Martin O Neill & Gordon Strachan LIVE  - Get your tickets HERE ➡️https://bit.ly/ONEILLSTRACHAN Support our channel and get exclusive members-only content - click here to join PLZ Premium:    / @plzsoccer   SUBSCRIBE NOW:    / @plzsoccer    As Hampden Park prepares to host the Scottish Cup Final between Celtic and Aberdeen, the PLZ Soccer panel brings you a bumper preview episode packed with insight, breaking news, and fiery debate.  ⚽ Today’s Top Talking Points:  🔴 Scottish Cup Final Preview – Can Aberdeen Shock Celtic?  Celtic aim for a historic treble under Brendan Rodgers Aberdeen seek to upset the odds and lift the trophy for the first time since 1990 Full lineup analysis, key battles, and the role of Graeme Shinnie  🟢 Brendan Rodgers’ Legacy & Future  Could this be his final game as Celtic boss? Treble number 3 on the line Will James Forrest make an impact off the bench again?  🟡 Michael Wimmer Resigns as Motherwell Boss  Shock exit after just 12 weeks Family reasons cited as he returns to Germany with Jahn Regensburg Stuart Kettlewell, Steven Naismith, Neil Lennon, and other contenders  🟠 Premiership Playoff Final – Livingston 1-1 Ross County (First Leg)  Ronan Hale’s late penalty keeps the tie alive Who’s got the edge ahead of Monday’s second leg in Dingwall? Fan behaviour under scrutiny after spitting incident  💙 Managerial Merry-Go-Round in Full Swing  Vacancies at Motherwell, Kilmarnock, Dundee and more Rangers links to Steven Gerrard, Russell Martin, and others Will Hearts thrive under Derek McInnes and Jamestown Analytics?  🏆 Fan Reactions, Predictions & Parades  Can Aberdeen fans dare to dream? Peter Martin promises to wear a full Dons kit if they pull off a shock win! Viewers share bold scorelines… and a few jokes at Tam and Ruffy’s expense  💬 Join the debate in the comments:  Who should be the next Rangers manager? What’s your Scottish Cup Final prediction?  The Football Show Highlights:  00:00:00 Intro with Peter Martin, Alan Rough & Tam McManus 00:00:44 Michael Wimmer resigns from Motherwell – joins SSV Jahn Regensburg 00:02:15 Next Motherwell manager rumours 00:04:06 Motherwell’s effort to support Wimmer before departure 00:05:12 Will Motherwell go foreign again or turn to someone like Neil Lennon or Tony Docherty? 00:06:50 Jimmy Thelin to stay at Aberdeen regardless of Scottish Cup Final outcome 00:07:50 Aberdeen’s season assessed – strong start, poor finish 00:08:50 Craig Gordon signs one-year extension at Hearts FC 00:11:02 Coming up: Brendan Rodgers / Scottish Cup Final preview / David Martindale / Ange Postecoglou's Europa League win 00:11:45 “Make It to Munich” documentary about Ethan Walker’s recovery 00:14:22 Livingston 1-1 Ross County Scottish Premiership playoff final 00:18:00 Livingston fan spitting incident

Transcript

00:00:00Welcome to the football show on PLZ Soccer's YouTube channel, I'm Peter Martin, Alan Ruff

00:00:09and Tam McManus are here with me, delighted you could join us as we get ready for the

00:00:13Scottish Cup final at Hampden Park on Saturday, really looking forward to discussing that,

00:00:19there's so much to discuss on the programme today, of course the second leg of the play-off

00:00:24is well worthy of our consideration as well as movers and shakers across Scottish football,

00:00:30it is quite simply the game that just keeps on giving, listen I'm going to quickly go

00:00:37over things that are breaking as we speak and then of course there are other things

00:00:42we're going to talk about in this programme but first of all Michael Vimmer has decided

00:00:47enough is enough, he's offered his resignation to Motherwell because quite simply he wants

00:00:54to be closer to home, some of his family have health issues and he's accepted a job with

00:01:00a club called Jan Regensburg who are in the third tier of the Bundesliga because basically

00:01:06it's about 40 minutes away from his family, he wants to go back home for those reasons

00:01:12and his 12 week reign at Motherwell is over Ruff, your immediate reaction?

00:01:16Shocked obviously because any time he was interviewed he was very happy, he liked Motherwell,

00:01:22he liked the players, he liked the way they played, the enthusiasm they showed but it

00:01:26just shows you that it doesn't matter who you are, family comes first and if you've

00:01:31got a bit of a problem at home you need to be there with your family and it's not a football

00:01:36decision it's a family one.

00:01:38I cannot believe that whole situation there, I'll tell you one thing that was really good

00:01:44having spoken to sources at Motherwell, it's really good that they've got it at the end

00:01:49of the season where they've got a chance for a new manager to come in, understand the ethos

00:01:54of the club, understand the financial situation, the strategy moving forward and then hopefully

00:02:01dovetail the budget with what the manager wants to bring in, whoever that man may be,

00:02:07we're only about 35 seconds away from suggesting Malcolm McKay and Neil Lennon, good lads, great lads.

00:02:16No listen I'm like Ruffy, I'm shocked at that but listen family comes first, he's a long

00:02:22way from home and if people in his close family are having health issues then the best thing

00:02:27for him to do is to go back home and Motherwell just have to go and look for a new manager

00:02:31at the right time of the season, Motherwell kept him safe, I don't think he was great,

00:02:36I don't think he was rubbish, I think he was probably just okay and the Motherwell

00:02:40fans would have been looking forward to a summer under him maybe getting some players

00:02:43over from maybe Austria and Germany and leagues that he knows so yeah listen I think the Motherwell

00:02:48fans will be disappointed but you're right, it's the right end of the season, they've

00:02:51got all summer to go and look for a new manager and that's a couple of vacancies now up for

00:02:57grabs and Motherwell will come on up so done D, so there's plenty of jobs for people if

00:03:03they're looking for them. I don't know, I'm reading your mind right now thinking oh if

00:03:10Tony Doherty could be a Motherwell job, when you consider some of the players and some

00:03:15of the former managers are out there, Robbie Nielsen's looking for a job, there's all sorts

00:03:19of managers, Barry Smith was in here the other day on the Footballers Football Show, there'll

00:03:23be many many applicants Ruffy, you have been on a board where quite simply on a Monday

00:03:28morning there's 50 applications. Yeah, yeah you've got to sift through them, you obviously

00:03:34narrow them down as quick as possible, sometimes you get an idea who it is going to be, everybody

00:03:39has different views on what kind of manager they want but you're right there's a lot of

00:03:43guys out there who will be firing in their envelopes and I'm sure, any time we heard

00:03:48that any clubs were wanting jobs it was like 40, 50, just not the ones that run off the

00:03:53top of your head but certainly there is enough people out there and Partick Thistle as well.

00:03:59So many jobs up for grabs at the moment, listen there's a great line here on our feed says

00:04:07the boys are only moments away from pushing Barry Ferguson for this job. It's a situation

00:04:15which again, if anybody's criticising Motherwell I think they're being really harsh about it

00:04:21because I am led to believe that Motherwell really pulled out all the stops to try to

00:04:26obviously accommodate his family, accommodate getting them over here, trying to make Michael

00:04:32Vimmer feel as welcome as possible and feel at home with all the family needs and if there

00:04:39was any kind of health issues across there, they were going to be very accommodating in

00:04:44allowing him to make journeys back. So I think they pulled out all the stops, I don't think

00:04:49there's any need to apportion any blame here, it's just a case of simply turning around

00:04:56and saying okay, the circumstances are this and we just have to move on now and look for

00:05:02a candidate. They're not at this moment ruling out maybe looking for another foreign manager

00:05:08but they'll have to review that listing quickly. Yeah, we thought outside the box we were getting

00:05:14Michael Vimmer in, he was a name that no one had mentioned, a name that no one had probably

00:05:18heard of to be honest and they got him in so they might go down that road again or listen

00:05:23there are managers out of work at the minute, I'm sure Kettlewell's out of work with Degavac,

00:05:28probably not, but there's Tony Docherty's out of work, guys like Neil Lennon, so listen

00:05:34there's guys out there, Steve and Naismith who are all getting linked to jobs who I think

00:05:38would interest Motherwell as well so listen it depends what the board want to do. It's

00:05:42not worked out and it's nothing to do with results, it's just a family reason and that

00:05:46can happen in football but yeah I think that they will sift through as Ruffey says, people

00:05:52are applying for the job from near and far and they'll try and get the best candidate

00:05:57again but whether they go down the foreign route again or not remains to be seen.

00:06:02Yeah, there's so many jobs. We don't want to be in a downer but we always have a go at

00:06:05Tam for all his pals getting sacked, I think if you have a serious think about the managers

00:06:10who are looking for a job, they've all been on our show in the last year, Tony Docherty,

00:06:18Kettlewell, Stevie Rowland, Barry was with us, Neil Lennon, try not to put the kiss of

00:06:29death on anybody coming on the show Ruffey. Stuart Kettlewell still remains front runner

00:06:34for the Kilmarnock job although I am told that the suggestion that the deal's done and

00:06:39dusted is a little bit premature because he's one of six people that they've been interviewing.

00:06:44The Dundee job's still up there, Temuri Ketsbaya, there's a name from the past,

00:06:48he's thrown his name into the hat for the Dundee job although Sean Maloney still remains

00:06:52front runner on that one. The managerial merry-go-round is amazing and a West Coast

00:06:58Don says here, another manager gone, some pundits suggesting Tallinn ain't working

00:07:03out, not necessarily on this show, so when do we stop sacking our losing managers and

00:07:08giving them time to build like Manchester United did with Sir Alex Ferguson? Well it's

00:07:12beginning to look as if that is just a tale from a bygone era now that you stick with

00:07:17him. Hibbs did stick with David Graeber, I think they'd boxed themselves in by their

00:07:22approach to previous managers but with regards to Jimmy Tallinn, and we're going to talk

00:07:27about the cup final shortly, the only people that will become unhappy with Jimmy Tallinn

00:07:35are Aberdeen fans who would voice it to Dave Cormack but I'm led to believe in very good

00:07:39authority having spoken to people in the Aberdeen camp, they're sticking with him, regardless

00:07:45of the cup final, you obviously don't want an absolute battering but they're sticking

00:07:52with Jimmy Tallinn, it's fifth place in the league table, it's not great, they go into

00:07:57the cup final and then next year he gets a full summer of trying to recruit his own players

00:08:01and that basically is what many a manager wants, maybe a couple of transfer windows

00:08:06to build his own side? Yeah I think he's been heavily backed at Aberdeen as well Peter,

00:08:09I think he's obviously had the summer window, the January window, they've just signed a

00:08:13guy from the A-league as well for a few quid so I think he'll be there in the summer as

00:08:18well so the manager's been backed and it's up to him to produce results for Aberdeen

00:08:24but yeah you're right I think it's just because Aberdeen started so well that the fans had

00:08:28real aspirations of them maybe going and splitting the old firm and stuff like that and the second

00:08:33half of the season fell away, from November onwards we're probably bottom two in terms

00:08:36of results so yeah I think they've got to give him the summer and bring some more players

00:08:41in, get some more quality in and see where they go next season but I don't think that

00:08:45Jimmy Tallinn will be under any pressure regardless of the result in the cup final because getting

00:08:50to a cup final, getting Aberdeen into fifth is a good building, we'll look for them for

00:08:55next season. Okay and Graeme says I like Tam's, is it, Muckert, yeah Muckert golf shirt,

00:09:03my mum and dad live next to the golf course says Graeme, we know that Graeme because obviously

00:09:09Tam nipped in there because in East Kilbride boy your mum and dad left the back door open

00:09:14and Tam's got away with two tellies and a microwave.

00:09:16So, Ruffey another one which should make you feel terrible, Craig Gordon signs a new one

00:09:24year extension. Ruffey you can still be playing, you've got to make a comeback Ruffey, he's 42.

00:09:31He's actually looked after himself. What happened to you? I just left it, it's just gone,

00:09:36I think it's great you know I've said all along I hope his injury clears up, I do want him to

00:09:42challenge Jim Layton's cap record, I think if he hadn't had all these injuries he wouldn't have

00:09:48been far away from it but he's signed for another year, that would be another maybe eight or nine

00:09:53internationals and obviously World Cups coming up as well. How many is he behind now, Jim Layton,

00:09:57how many caps is he behind? I'm not sure, I think he's only about 15 or something like that.

00:10:00Was Jim Layton not 92 caps? 92, he's 92 I think, I think Craig's on maybe 70 something.

00:10:06He's not going to get that. Well I don't know the World Cups coming up or the qualifiers.

00:10:1143, you need to play to 45 to get to 92. No, you get about 10 a year.

00:10:15Would you like to see him breaking Jim Layton? Yeah I do, yeah I do.

00:10:17Why's that, because you don't like Jim? Because I think Craig's a bit of a rough deal,

00:10:21no injuries you know, and he's a nice person, he's not boring.

00:10:25Yeah, let's not mock Jim, he did you a right good turn when you were in Mexico.

00:10:38Anyway, apart from anything else, that's just a few of the things we've been discussing,

00:10:42the early breaking news and of course all the links with other managers' jobs. The managerial

00:10:47vacancy board is growing day by day in Scottish football, especially the premiership. Here's

00:10:53what else we've got coming up on the show. Here's what's coming up on today's show,

00:10:58brought to you by Arnold Clarke Rewards. Brendan Rodgers sends rally cry to Celtic

00:11:03fans ahead of Scottish Cup final against Aberdeen. Jimmy Tolleen isn't writing off

00:11:08Aberdeen's chances of lifting the trophy as he believes anything can happen.

00:11:14David Martindale blasts a supporter who crossed the line in unsavoury moments against Ross County.

00:11:20And Ange Postacoglu brands winning the Europa League the toughest thing he's ever done.

00:11:26Yeah, congratulations to Ange Postacoglu, I was just desperate for him on any platform

00:11:31just to get the mic and then drop it and then, you know, leather a few people in a press conference.

00:11:37If ever a man deserved to do it, it was him. We'll talk about Ange Postacoglu a little later

00:11:42on in the show. Can I just drop in something that I was lucky enough to go and see, it's called

00:11:48the Make it to Munich documentary. This is basically a brilliant documentary which is

00:11:55covering the uplifting story of a Scots teenager, Ethan Walker and his surgeon, Professor Gordon

00:12:03Mackay. That was an incredible 800 mile cycle from Hamden to Munich for the kickoff of Euro 24.

00:12:12And it was absolutely magnificent, it was Euro 26 to be honest with you, but it was absolutely

00:12:18magnificent. And as you can see there, the documentary is just uplifting because Ethan

00:12:24himself was actually on this scholarship in America, roughly, from Aberdeenshire and he

00:12:31suffered life-threatening injuries including multiple fractures, two brain haemorrhage,

00:12:36dislocation of his right knee in a road traffic accident. And then from there, the whole

00:12:42documentary charged the recovery and then this idea of why don't we all get on bikes and cycle

00:12:48to Munich. And to be honest with you, I went to the GFT to watch it with a number of people from

00:12:56across our profession and it was really uplifting, the boy, his journey and of course the relationship

00:13:03that he had with one of the finest surgeons our country has. It's a great story and it's out in

00:13:09cinemas right across the country and a chance for people to go and see it. Yeah, well we got bits of

00:13:14it, obviously while they were making it, the movement and the journey through there, it was

00:13:20very heartwarming to see him, even better heartwarming when he got there, when all the

00:13:25Scottish fans were waiting on him to arrive and you could see how much it meant to him being

00:13:32there and how much it meant to the supporters as well to join in and everything that he'd done.

00:13:36Yeah, it was Euro 24, Tam. Time is flying past by. I'm thinking World Cup 26 now, yeah absolutely.

00:13:45Just a touch on Gordon Mackay, he operated on me when I broke my leg at Hibs. Is that right? He

00:13:50fixed my ankle, I've still got a plate and six pins in it, so if you're watching Gordon, the pins are

00:13:55starting to come through a wee bit now, so I'm not happy with your look. It was 20 years ago, but I

00:14:00might be back in to see you shortly. I'll tell you one thing by the way, guys like Gordon Mackay should

00:14:05be paid absolute millions, they are worth their weight, you really are, I mean, saved so many

00:14:12lives, helped so many people and inspired Ethan as well and for Gordon to get on the bike as well

00:14:17was absolutely brilliant. If you get a chance to go and see it, go and see it, it's excellent to

00:14:21watch. Okay, Cup Final coming up, we'll discuss that, we'll hear from the Dons camp as well,

00:14:27what about the chances of a big shock at Hamden, is that going to happen? Give us your thoughts on

00:14:33that, we'll read out some of your messages on that, we'll talk about the line-up, talk about the key

00:14:37elements of that game, as well as discussing to greater detail some of the other breaking news

00:14:43that we brought to you at the start with Motherwell and the search for a new manager, yes, 12 weeks,

00:14:47Michael Wimmer gone because of family reasons heading back there. We'll talk about signings,

00:14:53Europa League final, we're definitely going to talk about Ange, as well as hoping with fingers

00:14:57crossed that Scott McTominay and Billy Gilmore are celebrating a Serie A victory on Friday night

00:15:04against Cagliari, here's hoping. So, with that in mind, let's first of all cast our attention back

00:15:13to Livingston 1-1 Ross County 1, I watched it, it wasn't a great game to be perfectly honest with

00:15:18you Raffy, and I thought Livingston deserved more than the 1-0 lead that they had and then

00:15:24they were denied the victory going into the second leg by a late, late penalty. Yeah, that was a

00:15:30silly foul from the Livingston defender, you know, I thought to see out the game 1-0, I think

00:15:36would have gave them a large advantage in the next game, a lot of pressure in Ross County, but

00:15:42when you could see Ross County when they got the penalty and the b-boys stuck it away,

00:15:46you know, you could feel that it swung a wee bit towards Ross County with a home advantage, but I

00:15:51still think there's a lot to play for and there still could be two Premierships down in the

00:15:56Championship. Yeah, I'm amazed, I don't know, it just switched my feeling on this time because

00:16:02Livingston couldn't see them off, they had opportunities, certainly when you look at

00:16:07the best of the possession, 55% of it, they had 11 shots to County 7 and basically,

00:16:16I think it was an opportunity lost, I think it's slightly the pendulum starting to swing

00:16:21and has swung in Ross County's favour now. Yeah, I think so as well, I think that Livingston will

00:16:27be disappointed that they didn't take a lead up there, I think when you look at the last

00:16:30couple of seasons, Ross County have been strong at home, you know, I think they come back and beat

00:16:35Partick Thistle after losing the first leg, certainly beat Wraith Rovers comfortably last

00:16:40season in Dingwall, so yeah, they are a different side at home, but I think Livingston will go up

00:16:45there and certainly test them, Livingston have already won up there this season in the Cup,

00:16:50it's all to play for, you would narrowly give Ross County the advantage, but I thought Ross

00:16:54County were poor last night Peter, I don't think they created anything, I thought they were poor,

00:16:58the wee boy Hale, they're heavily reliant on him to score, he took his penalty well under pressure

00:17:02and I think Livingston have got more goals in them, so I think there's a lot of life left in

00:17:06the tie, but Ross County probably slight favourites now and I'd have Phil for Danny Wilson, if there's

00:17:14no VR he gets away with it and Livingston usually, if I'm playing this season with no VR,

00:17:18but obviously with that game there was VR and they get punished for it, but it's a sickness

00:17:23for Livingston, but the tie's still alive for them. I must admit, if that's the case,

00:17:27I mean it was a soft penalty for them. I thought it was soft as well Peter.

00:17:30We'll start giving them for jersey pulling. I think.

00:17:33Have we seen a lot of jersey pulling penalties? Have we? Penalties?

00:17:37No, but we've seen jersey pulling and then you take it away, I just thought he held it just a

00:17:40wee bit too long and that's why the referees, if you just do that and then you just let go then

00:17:45it's fine. I just thought he just gripped it for maybe a second or two too long and Jordan White's

00:17:51bought it as well, so yeah they've disappointed Livingston, but there's a lot to play for up in

00:17:56Dingwall. Do you think he's swaying towards County?

00:17:58No, I still fancy Livingston Peter, I still think Livingston will go through,

00:18:01but I think it could go extra time penalties.

00:18:04No, I'm sticking with Ross County. Yeah?

00:18:06Yeah, I'm sticking with him. Tam's mentioned the wee man, he's in fire. He slotted the penalty away

00:18:13quite easy and he's been a brilliant signing. I'm surprised that maybe he'd be able to hold

00:18:19on to some of the goals that he's scored this season, but I think he's the one that could win

00:18:24it for Ross County. Okay, that's the overall assessment of the game and honours even,

00:18:32second leg on Monday. We'll bring you build up to that as well as an assessment of it as well

00:18:38on PLZ Soccer. The station just never stops, it's as simple as that. When Ruffey and Tam have their

00:18:44sixth holiday of the year, we just keep on going with other staff. Fan spitting on coach

00:18:54Carol Tramarco, it just beggars belief. We have plumbed the depths time and time again

00:19:04with various fans, conduct, behaviour and we shouldn't have any great expectation when it

00:19:14comes to it at times, but I think spitting is probably the most barbaric of all and quite

00:19:21simply this is what Don Cowie had to say, the Ross County manager, on the incident at the end

00:19:25of the game. Supporters cross the line in terms of their action. We all understand the game's full

00:19:34of emotion. We get a penalty in the last minute, the frustration's there. Fans can say anything

00:19:41they want to a degree in terms of what they're saying to the dugout is fine, that's part of it,

00:19:46but it crossed the line by someone carrying out an action that's not acceptable and then after that

00:19:55a few of our staff want to protect our people, which is natural because it's disgusting what

00:19:59happened, but luckily we managed to calm the situation down and Livingston have been fantastic

00:20:06in terms of dealing with the situation. Where do you go with that Tam? It's disgusting Peter,

00:20:14it's something we don't want to see in Scottish football. Ruffey will tell you it's one of the

00:20:19worst things somebody can do to you, spitting on you and it's disgusting. He's right, emotions do

00:20:25run high and people can shout and swear and coaches and players to a certain extent can accept that,

00:20:30but somebody's spitting on you. If you'd done that in the street you'd get knocked out.

00:20:35Hopefully they find out who the culprit is. I heard David Martindale speaking after it and he

00:20:38was bitterly disappointed. It's not a reflection on all the Livingston fans, it's one idiot,

00:20:45one moron has done it and hopefully he gets banned and doesn't get back into the stadium. I'm sure

00:20:49Livingston will dig him out and ban him, but there's nothing Livingston can do about it,

00:20:54it's just some idiot at the game. Here's David Martindale's take on what he thinks is a mindset

00:21:00from some supporters. What I've heard, it's disgusting, it's vile, it's disappointing,

00:21:08it's not a reflection on our full fan base, it's an individual, so really, really disappointing.

00:21:14Apologise on behalf of the club, there's not a lot more I can do. I'm sure the powers that be

00:21:19at the club will make sure it's dealt with promptly and efficiently. I've been feeling

00:21:25football has been getting out of hand the last two or three years. This old analogy, I'll pay

00:21:30my money and I can shout what I want, this all comes from, remember, maybe not just this incident,

00:21:35but I do feel there's an entitlement with certain parts of the fan base that feel they can come

00:21:43shout abuse at them. This is just probably a build-up of that kind of attitude. I can come

00:21:49to a football game, I pay my money and I can do what I want, don't believe in it, don't agree

00:21:53with it. I think it's the only sport in the world that you can come and abuse your own players,

00:21:58fellow players. He makes a very, very good point, David Martindale. One of the things that I think

00:22:05we do champion on here, I know you two laugh about it, because I hit back at people who are morons

00:22:10who post abuse and post a lot of stuff on our feed that we clamp down on, because we try as much as

00:22:20we possibly can to promote the positive aspects of things. We love people having an opinion,

00:22:26have a dig at us, you know, and fun, but people who are abusive and they go down various roads,

00:22:32what we call these keyboard warriors who are behind the laptop and they think they can get

00:22:38away with it. But as David Martindale mentioned there, there are some fans who think they can do

00:22:43what the hell they want, if they're part of a group, they also think they're stronger and bomb

00:22:48proof as well. You've got flares, you've got pyros, you've got abuse, and now spitting is just one of

00:22:54those things that you add to the list. Yeah, but as Tam said, the only way to stamp it out is catching

00:22:58the individuals and punishing them severely. I see they caught the boy that chipped the seat at

00:23:04Aberdeen, he's going to be disciplined, and I think they have to do it quick. It's good,

00:23:09I know there are procedures you've got to go through to charge somebody and everything, but

00:23:13it's good that it's out there and the rest of the morons are seeing what's going to happen to them

00:23:17if they're caught, and this is a perfect example, let's see who this guy is and see if he keeps

00:23:23ahead of his job, because that's the only way you're going to punish them. I think you should

00:23:26name and shame. Yeah, I think so as well. I'm well done to the company who sacked the boy that did

00:23:33the 66 at the Rangers Celtic game. That's the kind of thing we're looking for, and it's out there,

00:23:38and everybody knows about it, and the guy's then got to deal with it with his pals and everyone

00:23:42around about him. They've got to realise it's a life changing thing that happens to them if

00:23:48they do something like this. Okay, that's just aside from football. Monday it'll be up at Dingwall,

00:23:54Ross County against Livingston. It's such a tight one to call, Tam, I think you might be right on

00:24:00the old penalties issue again, and then you start to look and you think, who's got the best goalkeeper?

00:24:06Did you think it was over the line, the shot that was saved? It was a right good save too,

00:24:10wasn't it? I thought it was a save, I thought it was a great save Peter, but listen we'll never know

00:24:14until we get that goal line technology, but I thought it was a fantastic save for the Livingston

00:24:18keeper. Oh yeah, it was a really good one. Just had a word from Easter Road, they thought it was over

00:24:23the line shot there. I mean, what does Don Cowie say to the boys? Listen, we've managed to

00:24:33take the best of it, let's bomb on now and just see if we can finish them off in our home

00:24:39place, you'll never get a better opportunity. No, but you could sense at the end of the game

00:24:43there was only one team celebrating, that Ross County get out of jail, Livingston heads would go

00:24:49down, 1-1-0, losing a late goal, have to get their head round that and go up there, but then it's up

00:24:55to the manager to do his job, you know, to convince both sets of players that they're good enough to

00:24:59win the game. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm going to stick with Livia on penalties. I've got Livia

00:25:06on penalties as well. I'm Ross County. On penalties? No, he won the game. Oh, comfortable? Yes. Okay.

00:25:12The issue I've got with Ross County, Peter, is they're not in great form. The last 10 games

00:25:15they've lost 8-2, so they haven't won a game in I don't know how long, so that's a factor as well

00:25:21for me. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, Scottish Cup final. Well done to the Aberdeen fans, sold 20,000 tickets

00:25:27and they deserve the 20,000 tickets. Absolutely, I think when you look at the loyalty

00:25:32to the supporters, they're heavy underdogs. A lot of Aberdeen supporters, I know a couple, and they're

00:25:37fearing the worst. You only know a couple of Aberdeen fans? I know a couple, aye, and listen, they're

00:25:43fearing the worst going into the game, but they're still going to go. They're still going to go because

00:25:46you never know. You don't want to be one of those fans that doesn't go to the game and Aberdeen play

00:25:50at their skin and sell their crap on the day and they go and win the Cup. So fair play to the

00:25:54Aberdeen fans for coming down. 20,000, brilliant. They've sold and they've made a great atmosphere

00:25:59and they'll go and try and cause an upset, but I don't see it happening. Kobe Henderson's our man

00:26:05in the North East and he's looking forward to this one. Final fever has descended upon the North East

00:26:11of Scotland as Aberdeen prepare to face Celtic in Saturday's Scottish Cup final. Aberdeen captain

00:26:17Graeme Shinney previously won the competition with Iverness Calais. He wasn't shy on lifting the

00:26:23trophy on media day. However, the Aberdeen captain spoke on how he's hoping it's red ribbons he's

00:26:28lifting come Saturday. Yeah, it would mean everything to me. It would be a very special day,

00:26:35not only for me, but for the supporters and for the club and everyone involved. It would be

00:26:40a massive achievement for us all. So like I said, it'll take a lot of hard work. It will

00:26:48take a lot of work in the game. I'm set we've got a good team, we know that.

00:26:53So we need to get a game plan that we feel that will win and go and execute. Aberdeen have been

00:26:59on the end of some heavy defeats against Celtic this season. However, Jimmy Tolleen insists that

00:27:04it's a Cup final, anything can happen. I think you always have to move on. It's a final

00:27:10of course, we learn things from that game. But it's also a final, it's a different kind of game

00:27:20and in the league. And when you feel the spirit among the players that also want

00:27:26looking forward to the game and you can feel the belief among the players. So

00:27:32that's in the past. Now this is the final, the only thing we can see in front of us.

00:27:36Aberdeen take on Celtic in the Scottish Cup final at Hampden Park on Saturday.

00:27:40Kick-off is at three o'clock. Yeah, really looking forward to it. And of course at Hampden,

00:27:46on that big pitch, who does it favour? Give us your thoughts on what you think about the game,

00:27:53who's going to win it? Celtic are 3-10, Stonewall, Red Hot Favourites, Aberdeen 7-1, 17-4 the draw.

00:28:02I think that's about right. I think any of the games that you saw, Celtic and Aberdeen,

00:28:06at the end of the day, Celtic have been so comfortable in the game and scored lots of

00:28:10goals. If you're in the Aberdeen team, you'll have that at the back of your mind. You'll try

00:28:14and tell yourself, well it's a one-off game, it's a Cup final. But at the end of the day,

00:28:20I think Celtic have got the better players. Yeah, with that in mind, Schmeichel, Johnson,

00:28:25Carrick, Vickers, Scales, Taylor, Bernardo, McGregor, Engels, Maida, Ida, Koon, will it

00:28:32deviate too much from that? No, I think that'll be the team. Peter, the only one you could maybe

00:28:36think was Luke McCown, maybe in for Bernardo, but I think he'll play Bernardo. Trusty for Scales,

00:28:42nah, I think that'll be the team. I think James Forrest will be a key player later on,

00:28:47coming off the bench. I think he gave Graham Shinney a real hard time up at

00:28:51Todry. But yeah, I think that's going to be the team. I think Celtic will miss Hatati,

00:28:55I think he's a top player. I think he makes some tick, he makes great forward passes,

00:28:59and I think they will miss him. But a guy like Bernardo, he comes in and just shows you the

00:29:03depth that Celtic have got. So yeah, I think that Celtic team's strong enough to go and win the

00:29:07treble. If I was looking at that side there, Ruffey, it's a good point that Dan makes, but

00:29:13I would be looking at James Forrest and saying, just go out there and give us an hour.

00:29:18Yeah, I think that's maybe what he'll get. I've seen start.

00:29:23No, I think he's more, at the age he's at, he's better coming on when the game's on its way and

00:29:30there's tired legs out there in the Aberdeen team. So he's going to be fresh, and I thought

00:29:35he looked really fresh last week at Parkhead when he was taking people on. He looked sharper than

00:29:40most of the other teams. I think Brendan's usually 60 minutes, 65 minutes, and throw his

00:29:46substitutes on, and he could be a big player as he was. I think it was last year he came on in the

00:29:50final, was he not? And he was brilliant. Yeah, absolutely. And obviously, from that point of

00:29:56view, Rodgers, Brendan Rodgers. I mean, this is a treble. This could be his third treble.

00:30:02I mean, it's incredible, isn't it? Yeah, I think that when you look at Brendan Rodgers' record

00:30:06as Celtic manager at St Pires, I think he's only lost one cup game since he's been here,

00:30:10and that was down at Camarnock. He's won everything else, and people talk about

00:30:16Rangers getting closer to Celtic and different things, but I think the key for Celtic is

00:30:21keeping Brendan Rodgers. I think he's a winner, he knows how to win in Scottish football,

00:30:24and I think the only way Rangers possibly, for me, get closer to Celtic is if he leaves.

00:30:29How is he? Do you think he's going to leave? I think he's going to leave next season, at this time next season.

00:30:33I think he's one more year than Brendan Rodgers. And as I said to you, I think that if you're a

00:30:38Rangers supporter, rather than who you're bringing in, and the players you're bringing in, I'd be

00:30:42looking at Brendan Rodgers chucks it at Celtic, leaves Celtic. That's maybe a chance for Celtic to be a little

00:30:48bit vulnerable, because as I said to you, Brendan's been in periods, in big games, particularly against

00:30:54Rangers and everyone else, in his cup records, and I think he's won every single cup he's been here,

00:30:58so, bar one. So, listen, he's a top, top manager, and I think he'll go and lead Celtic to another

00:31:05treble and make history. Interesting that, Ruffy, what he will do. Do you think he's going to sign

00:31:10an extension, or do you think he'll think, three years and I'm out? Yeah, he keeps on telling

00:31:15everybody not to be worried, you know, I'm going to be meeting and I'll discuss my future, you know.

00:31:20It's difficult when you're a positional manager, when you are winning trebles and you're winning

00:31:24cups and all that going, what is he going to say to himself? You know, he's been down south,

00:31:29you know, he's done that bit, you know, so, I know, I think it was Wee Gordon that said,

00:31:34four years is enough at a big club. I don't know, it's an individual, you know, he'll be thinking

00:31:40his family as well, you know, it's a 24-7, you know, job, it's up to him to make that decision,

00:31:46but I think when you keep winning things, it's a hard one to let go. Brendan himself, looking forward

00:31:52to the cup final, has called on all the supporters to really get behind the team and cheer them on

00:31:56to victory. We really need the supporters for this game, said the Celtic manager. Aberdeen will come,

00:32:02I remember them in the semi-final last year when they really pushed their team, I remember them in

00:32:07the semi-final of the League Cup. We'll try to be at our best and hopefully the fans can be at their

00:32:13best too. When they do that, they give us an unbelievable push. We can get through this

00:32:18together, so be as loud as you can and hopefully we can make you as proud as we possibly can and

00:32:24with that in mind, I always like it, Tam, when you've got a situation like this, when you have

00:32:29an equal split, you know, Celtic and Rangers games, you'll love them at Hampden, Aberdeen have got a

00:32:34great support, travelling support and they'll be coming there with hope. Okay, slightly up against

00:32:40it because they've taken some tankings against Celtic this season. I think, you know, the goals

00:32:45for Celtic is frightening and the goals against, you know, it doesn't fill you with confidence.

00:32:51They'll need to look and see it themselves. Well, what do they need to do? They score first. Yeah.

00:32:56They must score first, Aberdeen. I think if you've been on the back of a hammer at

00:33:00Hampden this season already, 6-0, then you've just been hammered 5-1 from Celtic's B team.

00:33:06I think if you're an Aberdeen player, you go out and Celtic score the first goal in the first 10,

00:33:0915, 20 minutes, you think we're gubbed. I think if Aberdeen get it, the energy they get for their

00:33:15supporters, the energy they get from that, something to hold on to, will be massive for them. So I think

00:33:21the first goal is massively important. I think if Aberdeen get it, they can go and win the game.

00:33:25If Celtic get it, it's a long, long way back for Aberdeen. So the first goal for me is massively

00:33:29important. Yeah. The team. What would you do, Rafi, with regards to the formation on this? I mean,

00:33:36will Aberdeen change their style too much? I mean, they can play a 4-3-2-1. They have gone 4-4-2

00:33:42at times. I mean, all sorts of formations you try and come up with to see if you can win the game.

00:33:48I mean, I have taken a stab at maybe meet off and goal, Jenson, Tobers, Neuster,

00:33:54Shinnie, then it's Clarkson, Palaversa, Keskinen, McGrath, Ockels and Nisbet, you know, McGrath with

00:34:01that number 10 role. But then, you know, you look at teams like Hibs and St Mirren, they played a

00:34:07kind of a 5-3-2, had success at times against Celtic. I just wonder, I think, my personal opinion

00:34:13is you have got to swamp the midfield and not give them the chance. Yeah, I think if you listen

00:34:18to most people who play against Celtic, you have got to sit in for 15-20 minutes. You have got to

00:34:23be solid. You have got to make it difficult for their good players to get on the ball and that's

00:34:28something that Celtic seem to do very easily, is get possession of the ball. Do you know what the

00:34:34worst time is for Aberdeen in all the games they have played against Celtic? The 25th minute.

00:34:40Because from the 25th minute onwards is when they start conceding goals against Celtic.

00:34:44And it's alright saying, I think Tam has got the element of it which has got to be the only

00:34:50thing in their favour, is if they can get a goal early on before Celtic. Once Celtic get into that

00:34:55groove, Ruffey, you know what they are like, they just grind you down. I think the only way that

00:34:59Aberdeen will get anything out of the game is the wide positions in the forward areas, because we

00:35:03know the two Celtic full-backs like to charge forward and there can be big gaps back there,

00:35:08so they have got to get possession of the ball, get it wide as quick as possible and move the

00:35:13ball forward. But as I said, the biggest thing for me is Celtic gaining that large amount of

00:35:18possession of the ball and they generally end up winning the games. They need to try and stop

00:35:22Callum McGregor as well, Peter. Yeah, definitely. If I was Aberdeen manager, I would be working on

00:35:26that all week. You are saying, McGrath playing number 10 role, I'd have McGrath sacrificing

00:35:31himself and just going and sitting on McGregor the whole game. Wherever he goes, you go,

00:35:36if you stop McGregor, you stop Celtic for me. You leave it to other players to go and create,

00:35:40but Callum McGregor is the heartbeat of Celtic and the Rangers have done it pretty well in the last

00:35:45couple of games against Celtic where they have stopped him playing. But I think if you are

00:35:48Aberdeen, you need to stop him because he makes Celtic tick. It might be a job for Liker,

00:35:54McGrath to go and say, listen, okay when you are on the ball, but when you have not got the ball,

00:35:58just go and follow Callum McGregor about. But it is easier said than done because when Callum

00:36:02McGregor is clever enough to pull other players away, then it leaves space for other guys to go

00:36:07and play. So it is a difficult one for Aberdeen, but for me, any chance they have got, they have

00:36:11got to score first. Yeah, interestingly enough, whether it is James Forrest, whether it is

00:36:16Bernardo, even Engles in there, you see all sorts of newspaper stories about clubs being interested

00:36:23in him. Interestingly enough, I look at Engles, 10 goals and 13 assists this season and still I

00:36:31am waiting to be convinced about him. It is the price tag Peter. Is it? It is the price tag. If

00:36:37Celtic had signed Engles for £1 million, I think you would be saying he is a good prospect, he has

00:36:42had a good season. Because it is £11 million, it is a club record fee, you are expecting more. So

00:36:49I think it is the price tag. If you look at him purely, take the price tag out of it, you think

00:36:54he is a promising young player. But because it is £11 million, you are thinking, let's put a lot of

00:36:58money for him and maybe expect a wee bit more. Yeah, are you expecting a wee bit more from Ida?

00:37:03Yeah, I am Peter. I think he has come on to the game in terms of goals. I think his goalscoring

00:37:08record over the last five or six games is excellent. He is another one for me, the price tag

00:37:14Peter. You are £9 million, you are thinking you should be banging 25 or 30 goals in for Celtic.

00:37:19And he hasn't quite done that. But I think he has got to 20 this season without playing

00:37:23a lot of minutes. So I like him. I think he has got great attributes and I think you maybe see

00:37:27the best of him next season once he has got a season under his belt with Celtic.

00:37:30That's the great thing about this show, Ruffey. He likes both these players. I think they have

00:37:36got a bit to go. I always look at what a manager does and I always listen to what a manager says.

00:37:41And when you see what he does with certain players, if Kyogo goes, you are expecting Ida to

00:37:47be in regularly and scoring goals. He hasn't really set the heather on fire for me. I think

00:37:53Brendan will go and get another striker in the summer. When you look at end goals, I genuinely

00:37:59think Celtic goal. I think they will have a right go at trying to sign Lennon Miller as a replacement

00:38:04long term for McGregor. And I also think they will look and say to themselves, well Jota is out

00:38:09injured, we will go for another winger. I think the proof is in what the manager does and what he

00:38:14says with certain people. He still hasn't given up on Greg Taylor but I think Greg Taylor might

00:38:20look at the situation and say, am I going to play second fiddle at my age? I want to go and play

00:38:25regular football. Brendan Rodger seems to like a wide man, there is no doubt about that. Anytime

00:38:29you see he is looking at somebody, it is somebody in a wide position. As far as end goals are

00:38:34concerned, I think he is not far away from having a big game. I think he is unfortunate that he has

00:38:41other players that command more respect than him, like Hatate, McGregor, even Koon, Jota.

00:38:50I think he is still young enough. You see certain things in his game, he has got wee flicks here,

00:38:56he sees some passes that other people don't see. I don't think he is a complete player yet,

00:39:01but I certainly think he is not far away from grabbing a big game like the weekend.

00:39:06Jim Hunter says, I have followed Celtic for 70 years. Wow, Jim, that is some going son.

00:39:13And he says, looking at the past few results, some fans think this will be easy, I am not so sure.

00:39:18I think it may be close, but just expecting Celtic to get it over the line.

00:39:25Listen, there is a man who has watched 70 years, Ruffey. Jim has seen some of the best players in

00:39:31Scotland, 70 years, that is good going. He must be about 80. He could have seen you playing against

00:39:41Honved in those big five games that you were hoping to get you into the Hall of Fame.

00:39:46It was actually six games.

00:39:51Six merely, so you are used to it. No, that is what supporters are, they support their team

00:40:00through thick and thin and they hang on in there. That is a tremendous record,

00:40:04as you are thinking, if he is 10, when he started going, absolutely amazing.

00:40:08Yes, absolutely, he is guessing he is 80. I am just thinking he might, it was my guess,

00:40:13sorry about that. He might, listen, he will tell us what age he is. He might have been 11.

00:40:16Yes, shut up. Anyway, apart from that, I am looking at the overall form going into it as

00:40:23well. Not great form from Aberdeen. We have heard from Kobe there and Graham Shinny talking about

00:40:32what they are going to have to do. They are going to really have to step up to the plate. They are

00:40:36going to have to hope that Nisbet has got his shooting boots on as well. I do think they are

00:40:41going to need to swamp the midfield and come up with a goal time. I just cannot see past,

00:40:48and we have been like this all weekend, it has got nothing to do with West of Scotland,

00:40:52it is just the evidence that has unfolded before us. I can only see a 4 or a 5-0 for Celtic.

00:40:58No, I don't Peter. I am going to go closer than that.

00:41:01Did you go closer earlier in the week?

00:41:03Yes, I am going to go, I just don't think you get that in a final. I think, yes, I looked at the

00:41:09last couple of finals, Celtic, I think they beat Inverness 3-1. People were expecting 5 or 6.

00:41:14They beat Aberdeen 2-1 with a 4-h late on.

00:41:17Aberdeen were unlucky last season, they were at the semi-final in penalties.

00:41:23I am going to go for Celtic to win 2-0.

00:41:26Ruffey?

00:41:27Yes, I don't think it is a 4 or a 5 in this game. It is a very tense, nervous situation. That is for

00:41:33the Celtic players as well. They have got a big support behind them, the Treble is on the line.

00:41:41Every manager will say we need certain Celtic players to have an off day.

00:41:47That is what they need. They need big players to have an off day to have any chance in this game.

00:41:51Yes, okay. Kaiser says 5-0 Aberdeen. I think what happens is sometimes…

00:42:00Heroin in Aberdeen?

00:42:01No, what happens sometimes is you just open a can of Kestrel and Kaiser has just gone for it today.

00:42:06The sun is out, he is sitting there outside in his mansion in Aberdeen because I have never met

00:42:12anybody. Have you met anybody poor in Aberdeen, Ruffey? I haven't seen anybody poor.

00:42:16Kaiser is sitting there in Aberdeen and he just thought to himself, I am on my 12th can,

00:42:21let's just go mental. 5-0 Aberdeen. What do you think?

00:42:24I don't think it is going to happen, Kaiser.

00:42:27He really believes I should go to the biscuits and put it on.

00:42:30John says Kaiser has been on the glue again.

00:42:34John, it is nothing to joke about. Kaiser's safety is the most important thing here. You just want

00:42:41him to go to bed early, get up there. Ruffey, there is a lot of pressure on me because I have

00:42:45said that Celtic will batter them and if Aberdeen win the cup, I am here on Monday's show with a

00:42:51full Aberdeen strip and Nicky Devlin sent me a message last couple of days and said the boys

00:42:56all want to know what size you are for the Aberdeen top. I could be sitting here in the full

00:43:04Aberdeen regalia on Monday, Ruffey. What a game that was.

00:43:12Get it for the figures, get it for viewers. It would be fantastic by the way. I can't think

00:43:19I have ever worn an Aberdeen shirt before, Ruffey. I have got a few.

00:43:23You have had one. I will give it away in a competition.

00:43:25Remember my fan wife, Little Britain. Everybody plays the thing and he has got the hot pants on.

00:43:30If you ever play in a legends game, son, I am going to leather you, honestly.

00:43:37There are quite a few people who are obviously giving us their thoughts on this one. Tell us

00:43:43what you think about it. Cup final, strange thing, one off. We have heard all the clichés.

00:43:47I am afraid when you look at the way Celtic are playing, I don't think clichés come into it. I

00:43:51think they just at the moment look as if they are a well-oiled machine. Aberdeen are going to have

00:43:55to mix it up and maybe put in one of those crunching tackles early on to set the tone for

00:44:00the game. I will tell you one thing though, David Gray will be watching the game. He won't be

00:44:03cheering on Celtic but he will be hoping they win because that means Hibs will go straight into the

00:44:08Europa League. Yes, they will be guaranteed group stage football and that is massive for Hibs,

00:44:12a club the size of Hibs. A couple of my good friends are Hibs supporters.

00:44:17You know a couple of friends who are Hibs fans? Yes, a couple of my friends from

00:44:20East Kilbride are big Hibs fans and they will be supporting Celtic simply because it gets them

00:44:25into that group stage. You get guarantees on group stage football so I think a lot of Hibs

00:44:29supporters will be wanting Celtic to win. I cannot believe, that is quite unusual to see Hibs fans

00:44:34living in East Kilbride. They must have been relocated. Aye, there is actually a few. I have

00:44:38bumped into a few in East Kilbride. Hibs fans, aye. Must have moved west for jobs, Ruffey,

00:44:45what do you think? It is quite an unusual situation. I can't get my head around that.

00:44:48Can't get it myself, Ruffey, to be honest with you. It is a matter of East Kilbride,

00:44:51I mean, it is a nice place. It is a bit of a far away from Edinburgh.

00:44:58We all kind of have 25 acres in Cumbernauld, can't we? That is a very good point. Ruffey is

00:45:05the only man I know who surveys his land with a monocular just to see if anybody has managed to

00:45:09breach the fence. Listen, prediction? 2-0 Celtic. 2-0 Celtic. Okay, I am going to go 4-0 Celtic.

00:45:18There you are. It is as simple as that. Give us your thoughts on it. Lots of people have

00:45:24given us their thoughts on how they think it is all going to end and it is the joy of it. I hope

00:45:31it is a sunny day. I think it is going to be the last sunny day before the weather eventually breaks.

00:45:35It is going to break tonight. Is it tonight? Nine o'clock tonight. All right, there you are.

00:45:39Ruffey, don't forget. Michael Pish. Yeah, PLZ Soccer. Later on, Ruffey does his own weather

00:45:45show. Just big ice, the bars and a touch screen at the back there. Looking forward to it. A lot

00:45:51of other things we have got to quickly talk about before we get to the end of the programme. Of

00:45:56course, what we will find out over the summer and we will be following it non-stop is Rangers.

00:46:02Russell Martin, they still won't let his name drift away from the Rangers job and then Stephen

00:46:08Gerrard. If it was down to those two, I think there has got to be others in the equation for me,

00:46:13Tam, but if it was down to those two, Stephen Gerrard or Russell Martin, I think Russell

00:46:17Martin would be an exciting prospect on the type of football that he wants to play.

00:46:21Yeah, I think Russell Martin is very much an attacking coach. I think you have seen that,

00:46:25by getting Southampton promoted. I don't think it is any shame for a club like Southampton to go

00:46:29into the Premier League and struggle. They didn't spend a lot of money and the three clubs, as you

00:46:33have seen, that came up went straight back down. I think they just pocketed the money and what will

00:46:38be, will be. So, I think he is a really, really good coach. I think he has got a way of playing

00:46:43and I think it is a way of playing that would suit Rangers. I think it is a way of playing that

00:46:47would go and take the game to teams. Playing the front foot and break teams down. It wouldn't be

00:46:52in any way a defensive style. I like Russell Martin. I see comments on social media mixed

00:46:59for Rangers supporters. Some think, yeah, some think, no, he has been sacked out of Southampton

00:47:03his credentials for Rangers. So, I like Russell Martin. I think he would be a good manager,

00:47:08but it depends on who the new owners see wanting to come in. Steven Gerrard is obviously a name

00:47:14that has not went away. Previous success, winning the league at Rangers, stopping the 10-0.

00:47:19I don't think he has shown anywhere else, in terms of Aston Villa or over in Saudi,

00:47:24that he is a top manager. He won one trophy in nine at Rangers. I think the European runs maybe

00:47:29kept him in a job at times. I am not so sure on that one with Steven Gerrard at Rangers.

00:47:34I don't get it, Ruffy. I am not convinced at all. I think if Steven Gerrard is back at Rangers,

00:47:39even with some amount of money, I don't see him beating Brendan Rodgers.

00:47:45No, that is what they have got to take a gamble on. That is what they want. Steven Gerrard will

00:47:50come back. He has been here already. He knows he just has to beat Celtic.

00:47:54If he comes back.

00:47:54If he comes back. When he went down south, there were a lot more teams to beat when he left Rangers.

00:48:02So he knows coming up, you have to be number one. It depends on what the new owners say.

00:48:07This is the ammunition you are going to get to be number one and turn this around.

00:48:13I think it is behind the scenes, the chat and what is on the table.

00:48:17I still think it is a name coming out of left field that nobody knows.

00:48:20I am just saying to you, I think it is a name out of left field that nobody knows,

00:48:24that they might, once they get the overall takeover in place.

00:48:29I have said it, it might sound silly, but they do have lots of clubs. The Red Bull and the 49ers.

00:48:37I think they have got that many clubs.

00:48:39Do you think it is Vince Lombardi?

00:48:40I think it is somebody they have interviewed for the Red Bull.

00:48:47Somebody they have interviewed for one of their clubs that has been successful.

00:48:52They might say, put him in there, he has done honour.

00:48:55Bill Belichick?

00:48:56Yeah.

00:48:56Yeah? Okay.

00:48:57Willie Brady maybe.

00:49:02I just think the board is the key issue to this.

00:49:05New board, new way of thinking, new business plan.

00:49:08Kevin Thelwell has a list there and I am not sure at this moment if it is just down to two men.

00:49:14He will have other people there that he will be looking at and studying their credentials.

00:49:18What about Kelly?

00:49:18Stuart Kettlewell, not in the job right now.

00:49:21Front runner, but there are six being interviewed and he has not got the job

00:49:25the way it has maybe been in an early, not to say he won't get it,

00:49:28but it looked as if it was all done and dusted in the last 24 hours, but it is not.

00:49:33Yeah, I think when you look at Stuart Kettlewell, he has got good experience in the Premier League.

00:49:38Ross County, Motherwell, obviously left Motherwell on a sour note,

00:49:42which we thought could possibly put some clubs off.

00:49:45You know, not happy with some abuse he was getting from the stands.

00:49:48And I think we have had Stuart on the show before.

00:49:51He speaks very well.

00:49:52I think if he goes for an interview, I think he would be impressive in an interview.

00:49:57I think if you had directors sitting there, three or four guys sitting there,

00:50:00Billy Bowie and Stuart Kettlewell put a presentation on,

00:50:04I think you would think he is quite an impressive character.

00:50:07He speaks well, which is half the battle I think in management.

00:50:09So, yeah, I think he will be in the running for it, Peter.

00:50:12I certainly think Stephen Naismith, who has been linked to it straight from the get-go,

00:50:17I think he would be in for it as well.

00:50:19You know, great player at Comarnet, good experience at Hearts, finished third.

00:50:23I would expect Stuart Kettlewell or Stephen Naismith,

00:50:25one of those two, to be the Comarnet manager.

00:50:27Yeah, okay.

00:50:29Dundee is a different kettle of fish.

00:50:31Can't quite second guess where they are going.

00:50:33I mean, I know Tumuru Ketspaya maybe have thrown his name into the ring,

00:50:36but that's just one of undoubtedly 50 applicants who will all fancy a wee tilt at Dundee.

00:50:41But I think John Nelms and Gordon Strachan have already decided on their man.

00:50:46Even though, you know, it could be Sean Maloney,

00:50:48but I think they've already decided who it is.

00:50:51Yeah, I think Gordon Strachan has got a big part to play in this.

00:50:55Obviously, if he's there, you know, under the capacity that he's working under,

00:50:59he's the guy you're going to tune into.

00:51:01You know, a lot of experience.

00:51:02He's worked with a lot of these guys.

00:51:04He'll know what they're bringing to the table.

00:51:08We don't know which way Dundee are going to go in the future.

00:51:11I was certainly surprised with the sacking.

00:51:13You know, I thought that the first year he had all these lone players,

00:51:17and then he got rid of all them and they brought in more stability.

00:51:21And then I would have given him another year, you know, most definitely.

00:51:25But I can't see why he wouldn't be mentioned at the Kilmarnock meeting.

00:51:30Yeah.

00:51:30Tony Docherty.

00:51:31Yeah, okay.

00:51:31Interesting stuff.

00:51:33Okay, as we told you at the top of the programme,

00:51:35Craig Gordon has signed a one-year extension at Hearts.

00:51:37They've also obviously got a new manager in place,

00:51:41and Derek MacInnes has said he's willing to embrace it.

00:51:45I think it's a great idea, Jamestown Analytics.

00:51:47They've signed Alexandros Kiziridis.

00:51:50This is a Greek winger,

00:51:52and they've already got a pre-contract signing of the Norwegian right-back,

00:51:56Kristian Borch Grevnik.

00:51:57So this isn't MacInnes' signings?

00:52:01No.

00:52:02So they're already ahead of the game with the analytics?

00:52:05Yeah.

00:52:05Okay.

00:52:06So I think from that point of view, he's quite happy to,

00:52:09you know, he said he used to do it all on his own.

00:52:11St Johnstone, obviously, as you climb into bigger clubs,

00:52:15there's a better structure to help you look at players.

00:52:17Yeah, I think it makes sense for him.

00:52:19I think that he'll go to the board, the directors,

00:52:23and to the Jamestown Analytics folk and say,

00:52:25listen, I want a right-back.

00:52:26I want a right-back that gets forward,

00:52:28that can, you know, do underlaps,

00:52:30that can, you know, defend well at the back post.

00:52:33Just out of curiosity, I've got to stop you there.

00:52:34What's an underlap?

00:52:35An underlap's when you go, you don't overlap,

00:52:38you go underlap, so you go inside the park.

00:52:40I've never done an underlap.

00:52:42Through somebody's legs?

00:52:43No.

00:52:43I've done a few underlaps, but I've never done an underlap.

00:52:46That's another one.

00:52:47You underlapped.

00:52:48Yeah, have you ever underlapped?

00:52:50Yes.

00:52:50Yeah.

00:52:51Okay.

00:52:51At the golf ado?

00:52:53No, I think there'll be certain characteristics

00:52:56that Derek MacInnes wants in a player,

00:52:58and they'll put it to the board.

00:52:59Does that take the pressure off him?

00:53:01Because I never identified him, you've identified him.

00:53:05You've just given him to me.

00:53:07He'll tell them what they're looking for,

00:53:09and I'm sure they'll come back with my list

00:53:11of two or three players, and he'll have the final say.

00:53:13I think Derek MacInnes will have the final say on the signings,

00:53:16but yeah, I think that when you look at it,

00:53:20listen, players coming in, players going out,

00:53:21I think you see a big turnover at Aberdeen this summer,

00:53:24and there'll be players coming in from everywhere,

00:53:25but listen, they're getting their business done early, Peter.

00:53:29Sorry, Hearts, and I think when you look at it,

00:53:31they're not in European football as well.

00:53:33Yeah.

00:53:33I think that could help them possibly as well.

00:53:35Still looking at Elton Kabangu, who I thought was useful at times,

00:53:38and they are still interested in Islam Chesnikov.

00:53:41I'm going through these names really well, Robbie,

00:53:43aren't I doing well, aren't I?

00:53:45But we shall see.

00:53:46There'll be lots of players coming and going.

00:53:49This is, everybody thinks it's the glamour of football,

00:53:52but let me tell you, and Tam is here to give you an insight,

00:53:54you can do an entire programme with Tam

00:53:56on looking for a new club in the summer.

00:54:00You could have done a whole documentary on it.

00:54:02It's not all the glamour of everybody earning huge amounts of money.

00:54:06This is an uncertain time for a lot of footballers,

00:54:09and there'll be some who'll be excited at the prospect

00:54:11of coming to Scottish football

00:54:13and maybe looking at it as a stepping stone.

00:54:16I've got to tell you, Kaiser says to us,

00:54:18why don't you come up to Union Street for the big parade?

00:54:22When they parade the cup down Union Street.

00:54:24Are you going to wear your Aberdeen kit?

00:54:25I'd have to wear my Aberdeen kit,

00:54:27and then obviously once a few people spot at me, Robbie,

00:54:30I'd get my head kicked in and I'd get leathered.

00:54:33It's as simple as that.

00:54:34Kaiser, I'm not coming.

00:54:37But that's the great thing about when you get a one-team city

00:54:39and you get some clubs to parade the cup.

00:54:43I mean, I saw your parade,

00:54:45the old photographs of you parading the cup in 1971

00:54:47when you beat Celtic 4-1.

00:54:51I'm amazed the bus started,

00:54:53and the second thing was your clobber was an absolute...

00:54:55Is there not an open-top bus now?

00:54:57No, there's a single bus.

00:54:59Do you know the wee air vent thing?

00:55:02Aye, did he do that?

00:55:03We had to stick our head out the sort of air vent thing.

00:55:06Robbie, what about Spurs winning the Europa League?

00:55:10Great, fantastic.

00:55:11Loved the interview after it with that lassie who was at Sky,

00:55:14where she kept pulling the mic back and forward.

00:55:16Yeah.

00:55:17Have you not seen that?

00:55:18I didn't see that one, I wasn't watching Sky.

00:55:19Brilliant.

00:55:20She kept on asking my question,

00:55:22but pulling it back and forward,

00:55:25and he said, if you want to really answer here,

00:55:27you'd have to put the mic in front of my mouth.

00:55:30Mate.

00:55:31Yeah, exactly.

00:55:31Oh, he calls you mate if he thinks you're a chimp.

00:55:36But it was fantastic.

00:55:38This is Ange on winning the Europa League.

00:55:44That was Ange winning the Europa League.

00:55:46I think we had a million on one of them anyway.

00:55:48Yeah, I'm absolutely delighted.

00:55:49As you know, I'm a massive Ange Postacoglu fan.

00:55:52I think that I love the way he plays.

00:55:54He's not sacrificed the way he plays for anyone.

00:55:58He's going to go down, if he goes down,

00:55:59he goes down on his own sword.

00:56:01He's told people that he always wins something

00:56:02in the second season.

00:56:03He's been slaughtered all season for that comment.

00:56:06Is he getting the sack?

00:56:07No.

00:56:08No, I don't think they'll sack him now,

00:56:09but if I was him, I would chuck it.

00:56:12What?

00:56:13I would chuck it if I was him.

00:56:15You've got to be kidding me.

00:56:16It's just a tilt of the chart.

00:56:17I don't care, I'd chuck it.

00:56:18Why?

00:56:19Because he's been slaughtered all season

00:56:20for the Tottenham fans.

00:56:21Slaughtered by the media down there.

00:56:23Daniel Levy.

00:56:24I'd go, thanks very much, see you later.

00:56:26You only get your three-year payment.

00:56:30I knew you were going to say that.

00:56:31You just said, do it one-on-one,

00:56:33nine million, deal?

00:56:34No.

00:56:34Either way.

00:56:35It's a hard way to chuck it.

00:56:37Here's what Arnge thinks of winning that trophy.

00:56:39It's definitely been the toughest thing I've ever done,

00:56:42without a shadow of a doubt.

00:56:45And I knew that going into it.

00:56:48You know better than me that this club's had some

00:56:51unbelievable world-class coaches,

00:56:53world-class players,

00:56:53and they haven't had a night like this.

00:56:55So I knew what I was taking on.

00:56:58And it's fair to say that it's been really challenging

00:57:01because wherever else I've had success by this stage,

00:57:05I've kind of had the faith and trust of everybody.

00:57:09And here it's been different.

00:57:15There's a telling line, you know.

00:57:17There's a few people have been nasty about him.

00:57:19I thought some of the written press,

00:57:24their comments have been below the belt.

00:57:26Yeah, I just don't think they could accept

00:57:28he was an honest guy in their views.

00:57:31They weren't used to a manager like that,

00:57:34telling you as it is,

00:57:35you know, instead of fudging over some issues.

00:57:37A lot of the, some of them, not them all,

00:57:39but a lot of them just didn't like him,

00:57:41you know, and just went against him

00:57:42and made it as difficult as possible for him.

00:57:45I don't think the squad of players that he's got

00:57:47is anywhere near any of the top six in the Premiership.

00:57:51So what he's done with these players at his disposal,

00:57:54not a big, massive player, a big standout,

00:57:57you know, match winner, he's done remarkably well.

00:58:00Here's what the Spurs fans think.

00:58:04At the moment, yeah, I think that buys him

00:58:06another couple of months next season.

00:58:08But if it continues like that in the league,

00:58:10unfortunately, he probably has to go.

00:58:11Yeah, but it's obviously been a terrible season

00:58:14for the league, but you win a European trophy

00:58:17when you say you're going to do it,

00:58:18then you've got to give him another chance.

00:58:2017 years is a trophy, so.

00:58:21He's delivered what he said he would.

00:58:23He was focused on this cup

00:58:25when the Premier League was sort of falling away.

00:58:26So he sort of stuck to it and achieved what we wanted.

00:58:31So really exciting.

00:58:33The prize is huge.

00:58:34You know, so much was riding on last night.

00:58:36I think we can look forward, loads of optimism,

00:58:39a good summer ahead and a very exciting season ahead.

00:58:42I think Ange can be good enough to do well.

00:58:44It just depends on what the players are like,

00:58:47who we're bringing in the summer.

00:58:48But I think he's definitely bought himself some time.

00:58:51They seem to be playing for the manager,

00:58:53which is important.

00:58:54So I'm not sure there are many managers out there

00:58:58that would come in and do much more.

00:59:01Yeah, give him a couple of months.

00:59:05Listen, if you think he's under pressure,

00:59:07what about the United manager?

00:59:09He's going to have to go through a complete rebuild,

00:59:12but he's not for quitting either, Roffy.

00:59:14Amarim?

00:59:15We have to see.

00:59:16In this moment, I'm not going to be here defending myself.

00:59:20It's not my style.

00:59:21I cannot do it.

00:59:21It is really hard for me.

00:59:24So I have nothing to show to the fans and say,

00:59:27I'm going to improve because of this.

00:59:29I had these problems.

00:59:30I will not do nothing.

00:59:32So in this moment, it's a little bit of faith.

00:59:35So let's see.

00:59:38Like I said before, coming here in the flash,

00:59:42I'm always open.

00:59:43If the board and the fans feel that I'm not the right guy,

00:59:46I will go in the next day

00:59:47without any conversation about compensation.

00:59:50But I will not quit again.

00:59:52I'm really confident on my job.

00:59:54And as you can see,

00:59:56I will not change nothing in the way I do things.

00:59:59OK, you've always got to stay for the money.

01:00:01That's Roffy's motto.

01:00:03And that will be what his motto is

01:00:05when he eventually leaves PLZ.

01:00:07You're just going to stick in and you're Roffy right to the end.

01:00:09Yes, I'll be here till...

01:00:11What was I going to say there?

01:00:13Till it all goes pear-shaped.

01:00:14I was going to say, there goes Dupart.

01:00:17No, no.

01:00:18I'm not going to say that.

01:00:19Roffy, if anybody under 40 is watching

01:00:23and they haven't seen Weekend at Burnley's,

01:00:25Roffy will be here.

01:00:27And I'll be hitting him with a spatula

01:00:29as the flies are around him.

01:00:30Just one little footnote then.

01:00:32Do you keep him?

01:00:33I'm in him.

01:00:35I think you've got to stick with the manager, ain't you?

01:00:37I think he's a good manager at the wrong club.

01:00:39You've got to bring in the right players.

01:00:42Okay, last word, Roffy.

01:00:43We've talked about the cup final,

01:00:44talked about the big news that the Motherwell manager

01:00:46has now resigned.

01:00:48Obviously, had to go back home for health reasons

01:00:51to his family and wanted to be close to them.

01:00:53So they're looking for a new manager as well.

01:00:55But the last point here is,

01:00:56I think everybody in Scotland is hoping

01:00:58that tonight, from 7.45 onwards,

01:01:01that Napoli destroy Cagliari,

01:01:04win the Serie A and Scott McTominay

01:01:06and Billy Gilmore have medals

01:01:09and will basically be legends in Italy

01:01:12for the rest of their lives.

01:01:13Yeah, wonderful achievement for both of them.

01:01:16Both of them have not had great publicity

01:01:21on their way up.

01:01:22They've obviously had to deal with it.

01:01:24Obviously, Scott McTominay leaving Man United,

01:01:26Billy Gilmore going about clubs on loan and all that.

01:01:29Now they've ended up at a really good club

01:01:31and what an achievement to win that league.

01:01:34It'd be magic, wouldn't it, tonight?

01:01:35Yeah, I hope they do it, Peter.

01:01:38I don't know.

01:01:38My friend Paul Petrie at McBookie

01:01:40bought Billy Gilmore's strip at an auction

01:01:42at the start of the season.

01:01:44Paid a lot of money for it.

01:01:46I think he's sitting with his fingers crossed as well

01:01:47because that'll be worth a few quid.

01:01:49Yeah, it will be.

01:01:49And especially, he'll be able to split some of the money

01:01:51with you for mentioning his company on this show.

01:01:54Well done, Tom.

01:01:55All our betting companies are available.

01:01:56Yeah, I love it.

01:01:59I didn't notice it.

01:02:00I just thought you'd squirt that in

01:02:02before the end of the season.

01:02:03Anyway, I'll buy it off you, Paul.

01:02:05Apart from anything else,

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01:02:10Enjoy the game.

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