The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 1 Episode 2
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00:00Followed up in doubt
00:02Getting arrested was the worst time of my life.
00:04I ended up being charged with aggravated assault with three years of probation.
00:12It has been a challenge going from the scandal to relationship, to miscarriage, to arrest, to being pregnant again.
00:23Let's talk about your pregnancy.
00:25Okay.
00:26Did you and Dakota make a decision together?
00:29After I was arrested, Dakota and I, like, we actually never broke up.
00:33We stayed in our relationship, and I think we wanted it, to be honest.
00:36It might not be the smartest decision in our situation.
00:39It wasn't.
00:41But it is what it is.
00:44This place is so cute.
00:46I want to get a little drinky drink.
00:47Hello.
00:48I got this one.
00:50You got it?
00:53I was so shocked when I found out Tay was pregnant.
00:55I, like, couldn't believe it.
00:56You were shocked?
00:57Yes.
00:57I wasn't.
00:58You weren't surprised?
00:59She's been kind of M.I.A.
01:00I feel like she's, like, separated herself from all of us.
01:03I mean, I feel like I would, if it were me.
01:06She had the swinger scandal, had an affair with her husband, then she had her miscarriage with Dakota,
01:11continued breaking it on and off with Dakota, then she got arrested, and now she's pregnant.
01:17It's like, um, when, like, I see guys, like, think with their dick, that's, like, Taylor thinks with her vagina.
01:23She does not think of, like, using protection.
01:24I don't think she thinks with anything.
01:27I love her, but sometimes I'm like, sweetheart, like, it's not that hard.
01:32Yeah.
01:35Good morning.
01:36How's it going?
01:37Good.
01:37How are you?
01:38Good.
01:39Freezing?
01:39It is cold outside.
01:42I'm so excited to go shopping.
01:44What all have you bought so far?
01:46Nothing.
01:48You haven't bought anything?
01:49I want to wait until after the shower to get stuff, because then you know what you do and don't need, you know?
01:53Yeah.
01:54I want to invite all of Mom Talk to come to my baby shower.
01:59I feel like this would be, like, a good fresh start.
02:01Did you guys get her baby shower invite, though?
02:04Yeah.
02:05Are you going to go?
02:06Obviously, yeah.
02:07Are you going?
02:09I had one of my last probation appointments.
02:14Today?
02:15Yeah.
02:16What did they say?
02:18So this is how it works.
02:19So I went, like, once a month every month, but now it changes to every six months I go in.
02:24So I don't have to go in every month, which is a step, you know?
02:27Yeah.
02:28So that's good.
02:30Yeah, we just shouldn't even be there.
02:33I know.
02:34After the arrest, I was under so much stress.
02:38I was filmed leaving the jail, and then that was immediately on the internet.
02:43It was a blessing in disguise that helped me, like, wake up.
02:47I'm not going to go through this again, Taylor.
02:49I can't.
02:51You've aged me, like, 10 years.
02:54I've aged myself.
02:56It's put a very, I'd say, negative image on Mom Talk.
03:01I think that something needs to change.
03:03We need to get back to what Mom Talk was before all of this happened.
03:07Well, do you want to exclude her from it?
03:09Like, what are you saying?
03:10I just think, like, let's change the culture.
03:14The Swinger scandal, sure, we got a lot of eyes.
03:16We got a lot of publicity from it.
03:18But I feel like ever since the arrest, it's been the complete opposite.
03:21I know for a lot of people, like, brand deals have gone down.
03:25We need to make sure that we have a good reputation on social media,
03:29because brands aren't going to want to work with us
03:31if they think we're going to jail and throwing stools at a wall.
03:36We need to make sure to just completely get rid of that culture,
03:38because it's our livelihood.
03:40Right now, I feel like we're, like, holding on a thread here.
03:44Yeah, I feel like it's, like, rocky.
03:46And I feel like it's going to take at least one of us
03:49to kind of step up to keep the group going.
03:51Like, it's almost weird today doing content without Taylor.
03:53Yeah.
03:54This feels different, you know?
03:55Yeah.
03:57It is weird.
03:59I'm just, like, it's overwhelming.
04:03Like, I feel like right now, I just have a lot on my plate.
04:05And Dakota's, like, talking about marriage a lot.
04:10And I'm not quite, I'm not fully in.
04:16I'm so scared to, like, just get hurt, I guess.
04:20I've done, like, everything to, like, push him.
04:23I think it's more of a test.
04:24Like, are you going to stay here with me through, like, thick and thin, you know?
04:28And so I've done these things where I'm, like, trying to push him and stuff.
04:31He's like, you're trying to ruin this.
04:32Like, you want to ruin this.
04:33And he's like, you're going to do it eventually if you keep trying it.
04:39My due date is in six to eight weeks.
04:41And I don't know if I'll, like, ever forgive myself.
04:51And that's why I, like, really push Dakota.
04:54Because I don't feel like I deserve this, like, happy ending life.
05:01And I think that's, like, something, like, I learned in therapy.
05:03Like, I just, like, kind of struggle.
05:07And I'm, like, terrified.
05:14Sorry, I can't talk.
05:16I'm, like, hurting so bad inside.
05:19I know.
05:19I don't want you to feel that way.
05:21And I think that's why I had, like, a psychotic break is because I don't know how to handle it.
05:27And that much hurt that I had at one time.
05:30And the whole social media was watching.
05:31And I didn't know what to do.
05:34After the arrest, I lost a lot of friends.
05:37I miss having the close friendships.
05:40So I would like to just kind of start over, beginning with my baby shower.
05:45Oh, gosh, I'm sorry.
05:48I'm going to put some lip gloss on and act like I didn't have a meltdown in the car.
05:56Oh, thank you.
05:57I know it's cute, huh?
05:58Yeah.
06:29Please, Lord, make me the biggest star the world has ever known.
06:47Should we start flying out there?
06:49My biggest thing surviving as a working mom with young kids is self-care and hanging out with my close girlfriends.
06:56I feel like I need to be on a chair.
06:59Please, Lord, make me the biggest star the world has ever known.
07:03That was it.
07:05Taylor used to be the face of Mom Talk.
07:07And then when that all blew up, no one really knew what Mom Talk stood for anymore.
07:11I feel like if Mom Talk is going to remake its image, it's up to the rest of us to step up and make it happen.
07:16I know you don't want to make a TikTok, but we've got to pay the bills.
07:19I mean, who else is going to pay the bills?
07:21Who is currently, like, the breadwinner at home?
07:27I think all of us.
07:28Yeah, definitely.
07:29For sure.
07:30All of us.
07:30Really?
07:31Yeah.
07:32We all are.
07:33Look at us.
07:34Social media has been, like, the greatest blessing in that sense.
07:36I feel like we haven't done a brand deal in a long time.
07:38Zero November, zero December.
07:41And then I got three in January.
07:42I wonder if holidays were just slow.
07:46The past year has been a little rough going for Mom Talk after Taylor's arrest.
07:50But we still want to keep Mom Talk going, and I think it's up to us to keep everything flowing.
07:55I had one brand deal, like, going into the holidays.
07:59Yeah.
07:59And then dry.
08:02What's the weirdest deal you've gotten?
08:04Me and Jen got one.
08:06What?
08:06A bladder.
08:07What was it?
08:08After giving birth, like, your pelvic is just so weak that you could sneeze and, like, pee yourself.
08:13Was it for diapers?
08:15Yes, it was for diapers.
08:16I just said yes.
08:18I'm reading the brief, and me and Jen are like, wait a minute.
08:20Are these for diapers?
08:21I'm like, are you doing it?
08:22Okay.
08:23I feel like you probably have had more.
08:25You have one.
08:25Yeah.
08:26You have one.
08:27Yeah.
08:28Don't you?
08:29Yeah.
08:30Do you have a weird brand deal you want to share with us?
08:31Guys, I genuinely need your opinion on something.
08:34What?
08:36Okay, so I got this offer, and it's like, I'm not going to lie, like, the money is really good.
08:40I'm like, how much are we talking?
08:42$20,000?
08:43$200,000?
08:44$200,000.
08:45No!
08:45Wait, wait.
08:46$20,000.
08:47$20,000.
08:48$20,000.
08:49Okay, $20,000.
08:49I thought for what?
08:51It's really good money, K.
08:52What is it?
08:53What the?
08:54Oh, goodness.
09:01What the?
09:02What is it?
09:02I can't see.
09:03Just like Pleasure Point for days.
09:07What the fuck is this?
09:09Whitney Lovett.
09:10From spreading the good word door-to-door to spreading the word about vibrators.
09:15Who would have thought?
09:16Congratulations.
09:17Is that a little microphone?
09:19Karaoke.
09:20Are you going to sing into that?
09:21What the?
09:23Stop.
09:25Here, you want to see them?
09:26Let me just-
09:27Oh, that has my name on it.
09:28Oh, Demi.
09:29That one's for you.
09:30The Demi one.
09:31The finger pro.
09:32It's your finger, but better.
09:34Guys, I need to go upstairs.
09:35You're like, I'll be right back.
09:36Stop, Laila!
09:38Okay, so what do they want you to do?
09:40Because-
09:40So, okay, so literally all I have to do is hold it and take a picture.
09:46Like, just me and post it on my Instagram and that's it?
09:49In the Mormon religion, we're very conservative.
09:54I worry about the people that I grew up with, specifically my family,
09:59seeing me promote this sex toy because it's very, very taboo.
10:04I don't know if I'd do it for 20.
10:05I'd probably have to do at least 30.
10:07I know, I don't-
10:07I wouldn't do it for 20.
10:08I'd do it for 100, maybe.
10:09I would do it.
10:11Honestly, I think Whitney should take the deal for the vibrator.
10:14I honestly don't see anything wrong with promoting a sex toy.
10:18The amount was still not enough for me to post that on my feed,
10:21but get that back, girl.
10:23I personally would never promote a sex brand.
10:29Sex has been such a taboo topic, especially within the church for so long.
10:33It's like, if we're trying to break the mold and modernize
10:35and get to a place of, like, normalizing things, that starts with us.
10:39More than just making TikToks, I just love this group of women
10:42getting together and having these important conversations.
10:45I also feel like this mom talk group, especially being in Utah, is breaking a norm.
10:51We're raising this new generation and things are changing
10:55and I'm loving what's changing.
10:57I think that a lot of women, because of the shame and lack of knowledge,
11:03I think a lot of women don't even orgasm.
11:06I would die.
11:08Or I'm dead ass.
11:09Never in my life.
11:12I'm, like, scared.
11:13Take this home with you.
11:14My name is Layla Taylor. I'm 22.
11:17I got married when I was 19.
11:19Me and my husband were then married for three years,
11:22but we ended up getting divorced.
11:23So I've only ever really dated about four people.
11:27So that's not a lot of time to discover yourself.
11:31Have you tried a toy?
11:32Yeah, and anytime I get close to the feeling of it, I get scared and I, like, stop.
11:36Yeah.
11:37Two kids, 22, never in my life.
11:40I went to a very Mormon populated high school.
11:43So I'd be like, okay, what's the one thing that all of my friends have in common?
11:45They're all part of the church.
11:47So I got baptized on my own when I was 16.
11:50Being black in the church, I have never taken it personally,
11:55but you definitely do stick out like a sore thumb.
11:58I feel like I'm, like, missing out.
11:59And I, like, want to, but I just—
12:01You will. Once you do it once, you will want to do it all the time.
12:04You'll be like a teenage boy.
12:05I know.
12:06I just—
12:07I leave it in puberty.
12:08No, she literally starts levitating.
12:14Do it for yourself.
12:15Don't even do it for him, because sex isn't just about the guy.
12:19It's about us, too, you know?
12:21The more you enjoy it, the more they enjoy it, you know?
12:23I don't have that problem.
12:24I enjoy it plenty.
12:25Yeah, you definitely are.
12:26Like, I ain't worried about who it's for, to be honest.
12:30Before you're married, it's like sex is taboo,
12:32but then the second you get married, you're supposed to be this, like, porn star for your husband.
12:35We know who the real porn star is for their husband.
12:39No!
12:40Who we looking at?
12:41Who we looking at?
12:43We've seen those nudes.
12:45My name is Jen Affleck.
12:47I am 24 years old.
12:49Zach's gonna kill me for this one, but Ben Affleck is his second cousin.
12:53I'm definitely the first Jen Affleck.
12:55Not only that, her middle name is the same as mine.
12:58Jennifer Lynn Affleck.
12:59I don't know, maybe we can convert them to the church.
13:02I am a content creator.
13:04I am a content creator.
13:05My goal is really just to be able to provide for my family.
13:08I've always been super comfortable with my sexuality,
13:12which I definitely think has also gotten me in trouble,
13:17because I am a conservative Mormon.
13:19I do follow all those rules.
13:21I'm not kidding, you inspired me, like, full, like, for Brett,
13:25and I've never done anything else.
13:26Wait, you did it?
13:27Yes, and it was fun.
13:28Like, you took a picture?
13:29Oh, I took so many pictures.
13:30Wait, let me see.
13:31Let me see, let me see.
13:32What's your...
13:37Oh, my God!
13:39Not again, not again!
13:41Jenny, what is that?
13:44I don't want to see.
13:45There she is in all her glory.
13:48There's Jenny.
13:49Here we are, a group of women in Mom Talk
13:52who can inspire other women to not be ashamed to use a sex toy,
13:56I think is very empowering.
13:57I just worry that my family would be a bit shocked
14:01by me advertising something like this.
14:23Hi.
14:24Hi.
14:25Come on in.
14:26How's it going?
14:27You guys can sit down.
14:28What are you doing?
14:30Dishes.
14:31What are you guys up to?
14:32Your mom drug me here off of my job sites.
14:35Really?
14:36So what's so important you need to talk to us about?
14:39Did you not tell him, Mom?
14:41I did tell him that Dakota was probably going to move in.
14:45Not, yeah, probably, like, yeah, he's moving in.
14:49When?
14:51Today.
14:52Like, now?
14:54Yeah.
14:55I'm very excited for this next step.
14:57One, we have a child on the way,
14:59and I feel like I really just want to try to move forward,
15:04heal, and really work on our relationship.
15:06I know you guys prefer marriage before moving in,
15:09but, like, that's obviously not how it's going to go, you know?
15:14I'm not supportive of it.
15:16Why do you have to rush it?
15:18Because we're having a baby.
15:19I know, but that doesn't matter.
15:20You'd rather me do it alone.
15:22Yeah, that's the choice you made when you got pregnant.
15:25In our religion, marriage is, like, essential
15:29to have that partnership.
15:31We believe, like, it's a sacred thing.
15:34That's what me and your mom have tried to teach you.
15:37The church teaches that we shouldn't live
15:40with a partner outside of marriage.
15:43You already got divorced, you know, at a young age,
15:46and then you bring Dakota in this
15:48when you don't know if he's 100% sober.
15:51I don't want you to be like,
15:52oh, this is not going to work out.
15:54Okay, I have a baby from a second daddy.
15:56I don't want a revolving door of men
15:59attached to my daughter and to my grandkids.
16:02For having this baby out of wedlock,
16:05you guys can be mad all you want,
16:06but he's moving in, and he's going to help me with the baby.
16:09That's the goal is to get married.
16:10It's not like I'm having this kid,
16:11and I don't want to get married ever.
16:13You want to give yourself time
16:14before you marry someone for the rest of your life again,
16:16you know, like, it's my second marriage,
16:18so it's like I'm scared.
16:19Yeah.
16:20Again, you shouldn't have got pregnant.
16:22Which is true.
16:24Is that him?
16:25Probably.
16:29I'll go say hi and help him.
16:30I'll be right back.
16:33Hey.
16:34Hi.
16:35How's it going?
16:36Here, I'm going to help you bring some boxes.
16:38You don't have to, babe. It's fine.
16:39Do you have any light ones?
16:40A lot of them are light.
16:41I mean, I'll get most of my heavy stuff.
16:43I just told him that you're moving in.
16:44Look at that one.
16:45Just now. Are you listening?
16:46Oh, sorry. No, what?
16:47I told him.
16:48Just now.
16:49Wait, you just told him?
16:50Yeah, I know, and that's why he's like,
16:51oh, you brought him here.
16:53He doesn't have anything?
16:54No couches?
16:55Dirty clothes?
16:57Dude, I didn't know your parents were even going to be here.
16:59Do they need help?
17:02It's always scary.
17:03It is scary.
17:04You're like, uh-oh.
17:06It's all that gray hair.
17:07They've caused you to go gray.
17:09Hopefully I...
17:10How can you do?
17:11They don't ever listen to anything
17:13we tell them to do anyways, so...
17:16Seriously, do you need any help?
17:18I don't know. I think we're good.
17:19He doesn't have a whole lot.
17:20Like, I have more, but...
17:22So, first of all, you knock up my daughter.
17:24Oh, my gosh.
17:25And then...
17:26Dude, hey, that was an accident.
17:27Okay.
17:28What, you tripped and fell?
17:29Yeah.
17:31Yeah, um...
17:32So...
17:34Moving in.
17:38That's shocking.
17:39Just found out.
17:40I know.
17:41Is that how you were raised?
17:42Did you just move in with this chick?
17:43No, no, no, no, no, no.
17:44See, here's...
17:45So, here's what happened.
17:46You just knock up girls every day?
17:47No.
17:48See, everything we did, completely opposite.
17:50I think, like, realistically,
17:52we would have liked to have done it...
17:54The traditional way.
17:55The traditional way.
17:56But, given our situation,
17:58I want to also help Taylor, so...
18:00I just feel like the only way for me
18:02to really do that is to be in here.
18:04I'm excited to have another life into our family.
18:08A little baby, but...
18:10I do have my reservations about this whole thing.
18:13This is, honestly,
18:14everything I've ever wanted in my future.
18:16I just never thought it was possible for me to have.
18:19I do want a family.
18:20I want all those things.
18:21Not only that, I love your daughter.
18:23Like, I love her a lot,
18:24and we align a lot on what we want in our future together, so...
18:28Yeah.
18:29Which makes it really nice.
18:30We talked about that, like, even just, like, religion,
18:34I guess, as simple as, like,
18:35I wanted someone in the church to marry, I guess,
18:40in the church to marry again,
18:43and he wanted the same.
18:45Yeah.
18:46Oh, you did?
18:47Yeah.
18:48Since the arrest and my pregnancy,
18:50I feel like I have changed spiritually.
18:53I have really looked at, like, what's important, my priorities.
18:58I want someone, like, to go to church with when we go to church.
19:01Like, I don't want to be in a relationship where, like,
19:03I'm taking my kids alone and stuff,
19:05and I just really wanted that, like...
19:07And you have usually the same morals and values, I feel like, or...
19:11Do we always follow them? No.
19:13But we're pretty aligned in that way.
19:16Being pregnant and recommitting and trying to go back to church
19:20is not the typical Mormon thing to do, and most wouldn't,
19:23and I feel like they'd be a little bit more shameful,
19:25and I do have those feelings, anxiety, fear of going back in
19:29and being judged.
19:30However, I still love our faith
19:32and really want to make an effort to go,
19:34so we are just going to try.
19:36I think that when you're pregnant
19:38and you're bringing a life into the world,
19:40you need to be really considering marriage.
19:43It's really not that different, you know?
19:47Dakota moving in with my parents being here did not go well,
19:52but I'm hoping our baby shower goes better.
19:56I got education, ain't no getting over on me
19:59I've been through the struggle, yeah, I'm more than what you see
20:02Took a while to get it, so I'm holding on to success
20:05I don't do no drama, baby, go ahead with that mess
20:08You a boss and you walkin' like this
20:11Hi!
20:12Look at you, you look so cute, pregnant mama.
20:15Oh, let's see.
20:16I know.
20:17Look at this baby.
20:18Oh my gosh, it's getting so big.
20:19You're still small, though.
20:20What the heck?
20:21I feel like you're lucky, I get huge.
20:23I know, and I'm almost, like, there.
20:25I know.
20:26Sweet, so are we looking for stuff for the baby shower?
20:28Yes, I want to show you, like, a picture.
20:30Yeah, what's the vibe?
20:31I'm having my baby shower at this venue called the White Shanty.
20:35It is Mormon-owned, and they pretty much have, like,
20:38every Mormon event you can think of.
20:40I just really want this baby shower to be perfect,
20:43and I just really need my support system back,
20:45so I just hope all my friends come and show up for me.
20:47We want to find, like, some eucalyptus, is that what it is?
20:50Yeah, and then baby's breath.
20:52Yeah, so we can kind of look.
20:53And I was looking at these and, like, dang, I want to get some plants.
20:56I'd probably kill it on accident, though.
20:59So I am kind of nervous about my baby shower.
21:03Why?
21:04Just to see everyone.
21:06I'm just, like, scared.
21:08Yeah.
21:09Honestly, there's just no other way to say it.
21:10I don't blame you, but I feel like when everything came out,
21:12I felt bad for you.
21:14Everyone was shitting on you, and I was like,
21:16I would hate to be in her position, even if I effed up,
21:19and everyone's like, eff you, Taylor.
21:21I'm like, I couldn't just, like,
21:22I couldn't even imagine where your mental health was at.
21:24If anything, it made me, like, want to come towards you more.
21:26Like, this girl, like, needs a friend.
21:28After the scandal and then, obviously, the arrest,
21:32the moms and mom talk all for sure judged me.
21:35They didn't know the background of the story,
21:37so they were like, we don't want, like, Taylor.
21:39Those who love and support you will be there.
21:40Yeah.
21:41And I guess that can kind of give you an idea of, like,
21:43who cares and who doesn't.
21:45We don't have time for fake friends.
21:46I know.
21:48I do feel like you've done a great job at taking accountability
21:51for, like, things from the past and, like, what you've done.
21:53Yeah.
21:54But I do think that you take all of the accountability,
21:58and you act like it's all you.
22:00And then, like, Dakota looks like this angel sent from heaven
22:04who's, like, this perfect person when he's not.
22:08Like, I'm not going to sugarcoat it.
22:11I worry because of, like, what I've seen him say to you.
22:16Me and Mikayla went to this event.
22:18Taylor shows up, and then her ex walked in,
22:21and immediately Taylor was, like, stressed.
22:23Dakota was freaking out.
22:25He basically was saying, like, F you, you're a nothing slut.
22:29And Taylor was sitting there, like, shaking.
22:31She doesn't deserve that.
22:33I just think that he's not treated you the way you should be treated.
22:43When we were at that event and he was texting
22:46that I was looking over your shoulder,
22:48I was reading your whole conversation.
22:50Thank God.
22:51I could see that you were, like, shedding down,
22:53and you were so anxious, and I was like, what's going on?
22:55I just think that he's not treated you the way you should be treated.
22:59But I also feel like things have gotten so much better.
23:02Like, what has changed?
23:04Like, he's being less toxic, or...?
23:06Both of us are being less toxic.
23:09How so? Just, like, with the addiction, or just, like, in the relationship?
23:12Everything.
23:13Taylor definitely hasn't confided in me as much since she got pregnant.
23:17I don't really hear much about the relationship anymore,
23:20but I knew eventually what happened.
23:22That's what usually does happen, those toxic relationships.
23:25Two weeks before she told me she was pregnant,
23:27she called me basically saying,
23:29I want to get out of this relationship, I don't know how to get out.
23:32Like, she was basically asking for my help.
23:34And then two weeks later, she's telling us she's pregnant.
23:36I always think about you. That's why I always check in.
23:38Because I'm like, I want you to know you can, like, talk to me.
23:40I think that's why I always, like, defend you, because I've been there.
23:43Yeah.
23:44Because I'm telling you so many other girls don't, and they won't.
23:47And I feel like I really gave him benefit of the doubt.
23:49But I haven't seen any progress. Maybe that's why.
23:52Like, I only know what I saw in the past, and that, like, pisses me off.
23:55Sure, there's been a lot, I will say.
23:57Yes.
23:58I can honestly say there's been so much progress.
24:01Dakota is obviously very insecure,
24:03because people who are confident in themselves and the relationship,
24:06they don't act like that.
24:07But it's still no excuse for his behavior.
24:09I'm just trying to be a good friend to Taylor.
24:11And I see those red flags, and it scares me.
24:14I don't trust him. I don't think he's good for Taylor.
24:17I don't think that they should be together, period.
24:20Do you think I should just do this on my own?
24:22Like, you'd rather have you be happy without this person
24:24than miserable with him just for the baby.
24:27I don't like him.
24:31I see Macy as, like, this protective friend.
24:34She's always defending me in situations.
24:36I do appreciate that she's blunt and always been honest.
24:39I know she wants the best for me.
24:41But at the same time, it's really hard to hear and accept as well.
24:46All right, well, I want to look at the pots they have.
24:48Yeah, let's look at the pots.
24:59What's up?
25:00Oh, Whitney's here.
25:02Whitney's here!
25:03The party is starting!
25:05Yay!
25:06I'm so excited!
25:09Um, hey, fun, you guys already have everything out.
25:12Yeah, guess who did it?
25:14Lexi.
25:15Is she the new favorite?
25:17I don't know about new.
25:21Being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,
25:25I know it's a whole mouthful.
25:26My family is very conservative.
25:28My family's family is very conservative.
25:31How's your boyfriend?
25:33Good.
25:34Mom, how do you feel that he's not Mormon?
25:36He's a great kid.
25:37Why do I feel like if I were to date a non-Mormon boy in high school,
25:41Mom would have absolutely said, no way?
25:44Well, now you know I wouldn't have cared.
25:51Of course it's going to weigh in to my decision whether or not I'm going to promote a vibrator.
25:56I'm just trying to figure out, is this a gray area,
26:00or is this an absolute do not promote this?
26:05So, Mom and Lexi, I'm curious to know your point of view on this too.
26:10I got a really juicy brand deal for a vibrator.
26:16Okay.
26:17Just to promote it on my social media.
26:20Why would you do that?
26:22Well, one, the money's really good.
26:25And two, and two, I feel like I can go about it where it's empowering.
26:32You think it's empowering?
26:35No.
26:37Why?
26:38Do you feel like that matches your platform though?
26:41Because you're all like, oh my God, kids, homemaking, vibrator.
26:47I mean, yeah.
26:48Let's empower each other.
26:50I don't feel like it does match.
26:52I just think a lot of that is private, personal.
26:56But I also, I wanted to, because I didn't want it to be shunned.
27:00If you need this tool to enjoy intimacy with your partner more,
27:07there shouldn't be shame around it.
27:09Do you feel like there is with the church in sex toys?
27:12Probably, yeah.
27:14I think it's a personal thing between you and your partner.
27:17What if you were single?
27:19I'm not sure how I feel about that.
27:21You think that it should be a no-no?
27:24I think when you're seeking pleasure, it can just get out of hand.
27:28I'm going to put these in.
27:29I feel like we were so involved in the church.
27:32Growing up, even in young women's or girls' camp or young women's activities,
27:37whenever we would talk about the law of chastity or sex,
27:41it was always no, no, no, no, no.
27:44There's this verse I remember where it talks about how sex was comparable to murder.
27:50And so that's what's going in my mind as a young woman.
27:55I even had the sex talk before I got married to Connor, and I was a virgin.
28:03I had to figure it out on my own.
28:06My wedding night should have come from a horror movie.
28:10That was a horrible, horrible night.
28:13It was a conversation that was never had, so we both just went in this blindly.
28:18Okay, maybe not a horror movie, a comedy.
28:21In some schools, you're taught sex ed.
28:24I don't know if it's a Utah thing, but no.
28:27When I would watch these movies and they'd hold the banana and put the condom on the banana,
28:32I'm like, never at my school.
28:35I remember at your shower that your friends threw you.
28:39Yeah, the bachelorette party.
28:41I mean, you guys had penis cookies.
28:43I was kind of like, what is going on?
28:45I had just had another baby.
28:47She was a toddler. Cut me some slack.
28:50You should have taught me how you had the baby.
28:54Obviously, you figured it out.
28:56I wish that I had conversations with my mom about topics such as this.
29:03And it's hard because my mom was raised in the church, and her mom didn't talk to her about it.
29:08We just never did talk about it.
29:10So I just took that as, oh, this is just something you don't talk about.
29:13It was, this is shameful, horrible, don't ever do this, don't even think about it.
29:18If you do, you're a horrible person. That's literally what I believe.
29:22If I could go back in time, I would check that off of my parenting list
29:25to make sure that I asked if there was anything that you wanted to know that you didn't know.
29:31Oh, I love you, Mom.
29:33The sex is great now, if you were wondering.
29:38And you know what made it better?
29:40Toys.
29:41So I wish my mom had talked to me about it, but I'm so happy that she's listening now.
29:46Sex can be viewed in religion as, like, disgusting.
29:49But times are changing.
29:51It's a new generation coming in with Mom Talk.
29:54We're here, we're embracing our sexuality.
29:57It's empowering, and it's exciting, and it's fun.
30:02I think I'm going to do it.
30:04I think I'm going to promote it at the vibrator.
30:06You hate it. You hate it so much.
30:10Well, there's lots of things I don't agree with.
30:13But that's okay.
30:16The cycle ends here.
30:18I'm going to have this conversation, because it needs to be had.
30:21Maybe I'll send you one.
30:23It's okay.
30:26You don't need to send me one.
30:40Be careful. Watch your step.
30:42They're slushy.
30:45Hello.
30:46Hey, guys. Welcome.
30:47Hi.
30:48How are you?
30:49Have a seat right over here.
30:50I'm doing well. How are you guys?
30:51Good.
30:53Thank you so much.
30:54This is so cool.
30:55This is cool.
30:56Oh, yeah.
30:57This is awesome. Thank you so much.
30:58You're welcome.
31:00So, who's going to the baby shower?
31:02I invited my family, your family, and then I think mostly all of my close mom friends are coming.
31:08Like, they'll be there.
31:09Is it all the Mom Talk girls and stuff?
31:11Yeah. Mom Talk.
31:12How was Macy?
31:15Didn't she go to the flower shop with her?
31:17It was good. We kind of just caught up.
31:18She asked about how we were doing.
31:19Oh, she's still talking shit?
31:21Like always?
31:22No.
31:23Yeah.
31:24That's all she does.
31:25She doesn't like me.
31:26It's not that she doesn't like you.
31:28It's like she's been the one friend that I've opened up to about things.
31:32So, she's, of course, just a friend.
31:33No, no, no, no.
31:34She's petty.
31:35I'm sorry.
31:36Like, there's a difference.
31:37Like, I've opened up to my friends, too.
31:39Taylor, she doesn't like any picture you post of us.
31:42Like, she's so petty, she won't even like the picture.
31:45Who does that? Sorry.
31:47That's weird.
31:49I don't know where she seems like she has this right to, like...
31:52Because I confide in her.
31:54She's the only person you confide in?
31:56Mm-hmm.
31:57I don't confide in a lot of people.
31:59But I haven't even tried.
32:01I am scared of friendships right now.
32:04Like, just, like, kind of like I'm scared of, like, a marriage and everything.
32:07Like, just from everything that's gone on.
32:09Like, I am scared to have close friends.
32:11I really am.
32:12Because the close friends that I had the last five years
32:14were not even really my friends and were gone in the snap of a finger.
32:17Macy was one of the first ones to come and be my friend.
32:20I have screwed up with MomTalk twice now.
32:24First the scandal and then my arrest.
32:26So, I do feel on the outs, insecure,
32:30and probably a little bit judged.
32:33I don't know all of their intentions,
32:35and I don't think you ever really do know your friendships
32:37until something happens and then you find out the hard way.
32:41I don't want there to be drama,
32:43and so I'm hoping that MomTalk,
32:45they will kind of give me another shot
32:47and we can all have a fresh start together.
33:01I'm running out of, I'm running out of...
33:03He is so funny.
33:05Yeah.
33:06I want purple plastic.
33:07Hi.
33:08Hi.
33:09Okay.
33:10Awesome, thank you.
33:12You look amazing.
33:13Ooh.
33:15Whoa, this feels so weird.
33:18Oh, look, he's like, Mom, no.
33:20You can do it, buddy.
33:22It's Himalayan salt.
33:23Yeah.
33:24But it's supposed to be really good for your immune system.
33:26So, it's like any time my kids are sick or if I'm sick,
33:28like, I'm like, uh, we need to go to a salt cave.
33:30Can you eat it?
33:32My kids do.
33:34Okay, wait, what are you wearing?
33:36The Taylor's Baby Shower.
33:37I don't know if I'm going to go to that.
33:40Why?
33:41I don't have that kind of relationship with her.
33:43We've cultivated this relationship online,
33:45but we don't have one in real life,
33:48and I don't even think she'd care.
33:50The whole time I've known her, it's always been give, give, give,
33:53and it's never been reciprocated, and I'm just kind of like,
33:56well, then why am I still giving?
33:58Why am I still supporting?
33:59Why am I still entertaining this relationship
34:01when there's nothing even there?
34:03It's like, I know it's going to be fun,
34:05but it's like, I don't want to do that anymore.
34:08I want to lead mom talk back in the direction
34:11that it was originally founded on.
34:14I am not supporting this fake friendship
34:17that we don't have anymore.
34:19I just feel like I have to walk around on eggshells
34:22every time I'm around her
34:24because of this audience that she has on social media.
34:28It's like, I'm so intimidated by it.
34:30I'm like, oh, my God, look what she did to her best friends.
34:33Look how she fucked them over.
34:35When this whole mom talk swinger drama happened,
34:38it was immediate crash.
34:41We were all in this massive group chat,
34:43and then people are just fighting back and forth.
34:45Friendships were torn apart because of what Taylor was saying,
34:48and it sucks that she even allowed something like that to happen.
34:52Online, it looks like we're all the bestest of friends.
34:55It's like, but we're not.
34:57All she cares about is herself. I genuinely feel that way.
35:00This is definitely typical Whitney.
35:02She will have problems with somebody, have tension,
35:05and she just wants to avoid it rather than to talk to them.
35:08Every time we're together, she has to create a TikTok,
35:11and it has to make sure that she's shown as the queen bee,
35:14and we're all these girls who kiss her ass and lick her pee,
35:17and I'm like, I'm done with that facade.
35:19I don't want to entertain it anymore. I'm out.
35:21I'm not really sure why Whitney would consider not going to this,
35:25especially just because one of the purposes of our group and mom talk
35:28is that we come together and we support each other
35:30through all the things that we're going through in life.
35:32She was getting a divorce.
35:34She was having an affair.
35:36She got arrested. I'm done with that.
35:39I feel like all of us in mom talk, it's really important
35:41that we all stay strong and united.
35:43It makes me honestly really worried that Whitney might not show up.
35:47I don't trust her. I don't feel safe around her.
35:49I don't want anything to do with her, and I think that's fine.
35:52♪♪♪
35:55-♪ I'm a queen bee, royalty ♪
35:59♪ Off with your head if you're such a bee ♪
36:02♪ Stone cold, breaking bones ♪
36:05♪ It's a road, road to the throne ♪
36:08♪ Say nothing, don't mess with the queen bee ♪
36:11Actually, I have an idea.
36:13What if I'm going to put all the greenery on here,
36:16and then we'll just keep this one the green?
36:18Hey, Taylor, what did you want to do with the welcome sign?
36:20Do you want it on the table?
36:22And yeah, we have easels we could put it on.
36:24What do you think would look best?
36:26I think if you used an easel.
36:27Let's do that. Yes.
36:29Yes.
36:30♪♪♪
36:32I'm kind of nervous.
36:33♪♪♪
36:35With the arrest, I don't know necessarily
36:38if the girls did judge or have any opinions about it.
36:41I came back to the church, tried to get my life together,
36:45and just kind of redeem myself,
36:47and I'm, like, finally getting there.
36:49We're moving. We're progressing.
36:52But I feel like I have distanced myself
36:55from, you know, all of my friends.
36:57I don't know who's going to show up and who's not.
37:00But I do want them there for me.
37:02I don't want to do this alone.
37:04I'm stressed. I'm, like, anxiety attack.
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38:00Despite my issues with Dakota, I know it's important to be there to show up for Taylor for her baby's shower.
38:04She has gone through so much in the last year.
38:06I want to make sure she feels loved and supported.
38:08I think when Taylor sees us group of girls rallying
38:10around her, she'll be more excited and happy to come back
38:13to mom talks so we can all start making videos again
38:15and be a united front.
38:17Oh, you look stunning.
38:20I am here to fully support her on her journey
38:24and whatever her journey looks like.
38:26Even if she's taken a step back lately, which I totally
38:29understand and respect, I have supported Taylor
38:32through all of the ups and downs throughout mom talk,
38:35and this is no different.
38:37Look at your cute little belly.
38:39With the ribbon, you are going to cut
38:41how big you think Taylor is, and then whoever
38:44is the closest to guessing how big she is wins a prize.
38:48I just feel like he's going to be such a sweet dad.
38:49He is.
38:50He's going to be really cute.
38:53What was that?
38:54Nothing.
38:55I think he'll be a great dad.
38:56The baby daddy part is where I think we worry a little bit.
38:59There's just stuff from the past that I think still bugs me.
39:02When we were at that event, he was saying, like, F you,
39:05like, makes it like you're an F-ing whore or something.
39:09OK, you guys have your ribbons.
39:12I would love to check for you guys.
39:14Do a check.
39:15Awkward.
39:16I know.
39:17That was close.
39:18I was like.
39:19I'm going to put my hand on your belly because I love it.
39:21Do you guys know where Whitney is?
39:23Oh, is Whitney not here yet?
39:24I don't know.
39:26Fashionably late.
39:27Is she coming?
39:29Last night, I was with her, and she's not coming.
39:33Wait, what?
39:35Yeah.
39:36Oh, did she tell her she's not coming?
39:38No, and I told her maybe she should,
39:40but she said that Taylor's probably
39:41not even going to notice.
39:43I am shocked that Whitney is not coming to the baby shower.
39:46At the same time, I know she's not a big fan of Taylor
39:49right now, so it doesn't surprise me,
39:51but she should at least send her a text.
39:53I feel like this is sending a message to Taylor.
39:55I feel like this is sending a message to Taylor
39:57that she does not want to be friends,
39:58and she does not care about Taylor.
40:00Did she say why?
40:01I don't want to go into too much detail,
40:03but she just says that she just doesn't
40:04want to be involved with Taylor.
40:08Can I get a pic with all of you girls?
40:09Is everyone here?
40:11I think so.
40:12Where's Whitney?
40:12Oh, yeah, Whitney's not here.
40:14I don't know if she's coming.
40:15What do you mean?
40:17Did she say she wasn't coming?
40:20I guess she told Layla last night she couldn't come.
40:23Do you know why?
40:24Why isn't she coming?
40:28Wait, Whitney's not coming?
40:29You're like the worst liar ever.
40:31I know.
40:31Just be honest.
40:32That's sad.
40:33Layla knows.
40:34I don't know.
40:34You guys don't have a friendship,
40:35so she felt like she didn't need to come today,
40:37because you guys don't have a friendship.
40:39Oh, that's news to me.
40:41I don't want to be the one to have to bring it up.
40:43She was the messenger.
40:44I was just hoping you wouldn't notice,
40:46so I wouldn't have to see it.
40:46That she's not here?
40:48The tension between Whitney and Taylor
40:51is very tangible with them at all times.
40:56It's like you're either team Taylor,
40:58or you are team Whitney.
41:00I feel like they both love the spotlight in different ways,
41:03but they both have this very alpha female energy,
41:07and that seems to be the bigger issue.
41:12Do you know this?
41:13What?
41:14Yeah.
41:14Because she said she's out for it.
41:16We haven't had a friendship.
41:21Hello?
41:25Hey, Whitney?
41:27Yeah.
41:28This is Leante's mom.
41:29How's it going?
41:31Good, what's up?
41:32Good.
41:32I was just calling, because I noticed you weren't here.
41:35Your mom called Whitney.
41:36Oh, my God.
41:40Yeah.
41:41Taylor's mom called Whitney.
41:44I would die if my mom did that.
41:45What is going on?
41:49I don't know.
41:50I think that's more of a conversation between me and Taylor.
41:57There's a clear division in mom talk.
42:00Sinners versus saints.
42:02Zach's parents are very conservative.
42:04They don't smoke.
42:05They don't drink.
42:06I thought it was a graduation party.
42:07You guys are all boring.
42:10We're hosting Luca's baby blessing.
42:12It's like super sacred and spiritual.
42:15You just don't want any bad energy.
42:16I didn't know we were uninvited.
42:18That was to hurt you.
42:19It's kind of like the mean girls, in a sense,
42:21because it's like them three against the world.
42:22Demi, I have a gift for you, though.
42:25Oh, my God.
42:28This was completely intimate and off the table.
42:32It is very hypocritical,
42:33because she wants to create this safe space with mom talk.
42:37I just think it's below the belt.
42:39Oh, my God.