00:00I resigned from Ukraine and also from the Foreign Service because the policy since the
00:05beginning of the administration was to put pressure on the victim Ukraine rather than on
00:09the aggressor Russia. I fully agree that the war needs to end, but I believe that peace at any
00:17price is not peace at all. It's appeasement. And as we know from history, appeasement only leads
00:22to more war. And to be clear, you are a career diplomat. So that means you serve regardless of
00:27who is the president of the United States and what party they come from. And in fact, when you
00:31tried to leave Post in January, Secretary Rubio asked you to stay on in Kiev, as I understand it.
00:36You were there for a number of months until April. What specifically with this policy
00:43is a problem for you? Because you did, you worked at Post under the Trump administration.
00:51Was there a trigger that made you say, we're getting it so wrong?
00:54Well, I would say it wasn't a hard, a hasty, rash decision. It was one that I took over the first
01:02three months of the administration. But the first sign was the Oval Office meeting.
01:06In February.
01:07In February.
01:07Between President Trump and President Zelensky.
01:08Yes. Where I saw that our approach is to put pressure on Ukraine and not pressure on Russia.
