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Diagnosis Murder Season 4 Episode 16 Murder Two Pt 2
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00:00I am not supporting you or your child.
00:02Pastor!
00:03You're suing both Jesse and the hospital for medical malpractice.
00:07Martin, you gotta help me find a lawyer.
00:09Sure hope you remember our deal.
00:11For every hot dog you eat, you promise to walk a mile.
00:20You won't be charged with murder.
00:23Most of these mass law.
00:25No, I won't.
00:26When you hit him, he was already dead.
00:29I have to read you your rights.
00:31What?
00:32Being charged with the murder of Eric Spindler.
00:35I told you I don't know Eric Spindler.
00:38I never spoke to him.
00:39Now you see why this is so puzzling.
00:54Oh, my God.
00:57It's dead.
00:59It's dead.
01:01It ran away.
01:03It ran away.
01:04It ran away.
01:06It ran away.
01:10This is disk.
01:11I don't know.
01:13You sit.
01:15You sit.
01:16You sit.
01:29i can't believe it i can't believe it i didn't know it was jack
01:52why don't you sit down i don't know how to thank you for saving my life and i'm real sorry about your
02:15possible why would he try to kill you i don't know this is really a jump wasn't it do you think this
02:25had to do with eric spin my stuff why else would you do this there'd be one once you go up to your
02:34room try to take it easy you put your head down
02:38do you think he killed him
02:49you know when i i can't for the life on me figure out
02:53oh boy
03:09i was really worried about you mark colton from los angeles and he said he never left a message for
03:15you and i figured you are in trouble are you okay does it hurt when you breathe yeah would you take a
03:35look at me
03:43then
03:49Oh.
03:54Oh.
03:57Oh.
04:08Oh.
04:14What are you doing here?
04:21I'm making the farthest house call in the history of medicine.
04:24How are you feeling?
04:26What's this right here?
04:28That's your trapezius connected to the collarbone line.
04:30It's only part of my whole body that don't hurt.
04:33Things don't work like they used to.
04:35Oh, tell me about it.
04:38Arthritis.
04:39Yeah.
04:40Stenosis.
04:41Bursitis.
04:42Uh-huh.
04:43Cardinlich gone.
04:45Gallbladder gone.
04:48We still got our hair, Ben.
04:50Yeah.
04:51I'm going to show you something.
04:53Look at that.
04:53Steve found it in Eric Spindler's safe.
04:57You know who's been it?
04:58Jack Gardner.
04:59Now, maybe that's what he was looking for in Eric's house.
05:02Maybe he's looking for this.
05:08Okay.
05:09Barry McCarthy.
05:14Now, uh, that's Jack Gardner.
05:19What'd you get there?
05:20Got it out of Jack Gardner's truck.
05:23I bet you that's what he stole from Eric's house.
05:28I bet you something else.
05:29I bet you Eric Spindler's death is somehow connected with Paul McCarthy's murder.
05:36How?
05:37I'm daggone fine, though.
05:40It's a mess, isn't it?
05:43See that?
05:45Take a good hard look at that.
05:46Because that's Duke.
05:48Duke is 6'6", and he weighs 300 pounds.
05:51He gave me this.
05:52And now he expects a picture of me in return.
05:54All right, Jesse.
05:55Take it easy.
05:56Look, I'll get you moved if that's what you want.
05:58I want us to get out of here.
06:00Jesse, I'm working on it.
06:01But I'm afraid I've got some good news and some bad news for you.
06:05What do you mean bad news?
06:06The bad news is somebody tried to kill Ben.
06:10Is he okay?
06:11Yeah, he's fine.
06:12And now my captain thinks there may be more to this case.
06:15She's going to let me go up to Santa Barbara.
06:17I'm sorry, but you said there's good news.
06:20Well, Jesse...
06:21I'm working on it.
06:26How come you never told anybody what you did to me?
06:46Why would I tell anybody?
06:47I guess you're embarrassed.
06:51I'm not embarrassed.
06:53Just never told anybody.
07:04Mr. McCarthy, my name's Ben Matlock.
07:07This is Mark Sloan.
07:08We're investigating a murder that took place in Los Angeles,
07:12and it might be connected to your case.
07:14Do you mind if we ask you some questions?
07:17Mr. Matlock, I'll talk to you until hell freezes over,
07:20as long as I don't have to go back to my cell.
07:24The police tell us that you don't think you murdered your wife.
07:29Yeah, I was pretty juiced.
07:31I don't remember that night well.
07:33Well, could you tell us what you do around her?
07:38You never saw my wife.
07:41Paula was a beautiful woman, but she had a problem.
07:45She was a flirt, and it got me nuts.
07:48I gotta admit, I was drinking pretty good.
07:51Shots of tequila with beer tracers.
07:53When I saw Paula dancing, I lost her.
08:05I got a pretty bad temper, and she wouldn't leave.
08:25If I got a little physical with her, I'm hoping her outside.
08:31And outside, honey, I guess it got worse.
08:35I got that little physical.
08:45What do you mean?
08:46You should hit her, didn't you?
08:49You'd hit her before, hadn't you?
08:51And who is this guy?
08:53I'm a physician from Community General Hospital of Los Angeles.
08:57Eric Spindler, the man who was murdered, was a resident there.
09:02I'm sorry if I offended you.
09:05Community General?
09:06I was just down there a number of months ago.
09:09Dr. Weingarten fused a couple of discs in my back.
09:13I know Leo very well.
09:17Could I?
09:19Yeah, go ahead.
09:20Thanks.
09:21What happened when you got back to the motel?
09:26Oh, I got a little fit.
09:34I hit her again.
09:37A couple of times.
09:39Then I went out and really started drinking.
09:42When I got, um, back to the room, the police were there, and she was dead.
09:52I swear to you, Mr. Matlock, I love bull.
10:02No matter how drunk I got, I couldn't do that to her.
10:06What is the murder of some doctor in L.A. got to do with the death of Paula McCartney?
10:25Well, we're not sure.
10:28How's the case against Barry McCarthy?
10:31Sure.
10:32Well, he says he was framed.
10:34Barry McCarthy blew .24 the night of the murder.
10:38He was so drunk, he didn't know his own name.
10:41Much less what happened.
10:43Can we see the evidence?
10:47Look, she's a pathologist.
10:49She does this all the time.
10:50As a professional courtesy, please.
10:57Some of these hairs don't have roots.
11:00And some of them do.
11:01Some look like they were pulled out and others cut.
11:04Miss, his blood was found in the room.
11:07He had scratches and bruises, and she had his blood and hair under her finger.
11:11They had a fight, he admits that.
11:14They had lots of fights.
11:15Yeah, and this time, it got out of hand.
11:20Something is wrong.
11:21I'm with you.
11:23Dad, even if those hairs look cut, they still got a good case.
11:27Barry McCarthy can't even remember.
11:29Yeah, but something's missing.
11:31What do you think, Ben?
11:34Huh?
11:34What do you think?
11:36Oh, I think my body craves some spaghetti and meatballs.
11:44Okay.
11:45The strongest evidence against Barry is the blood and the hair out in the room.
11:49Yeah, all right.
11:50Well, when Barry McCarthy said he was operated on a community general, I got to thinking.
11:56I found out that Eric Spindler assisted on that operation.
12:00Now, Eric could have very easily gotten the blood and the hair that Jack Gardner used to bring Barry.
12:06Oh, come on.
12:07You mean in an operating room full of people, Eric Spindler takes out his scissors and cuts some of Barry's hair and then yanks out a handful.
12:18That's not what he's saying.
12:20See, Barry McCarthy had back surgery.
12:22He was so doped up.
12:24Eric could have gone in his room, danced on his chest.
12:26He never would have known the difference.
12:27Well, what did Eric have to gain in all this?
12:30Why would he do it?
12:32I don't know.
12:32It's a jumble, isn't it?
12:34It's a jumble.
12:35Mr. Matlock.
12:41Hi.
12:43What is it about me that keeps bringing you back?
12:50Oh.
12:52How about your drink?
12:56You know, every time I see you, things seem to get worse.
13:00I don't know how to get much worse than this.
13:04What are you saying?
13:05Sure as I'm sitting here, I know your husband broke into Eric Spindler's house after he died, stole a videotape and newspaper clip, and it's all about your sister's murder.
13:21No, I don't believe that.
13:22I know it's hard to imagine, but, uh, look at this.
13:30She was taken with one of those surveillance cameras at Community General Hospital in Los Angeles, November 23rd.
13:39I was wondering if you knew why Jack was there that day.
13:44I have no idea.
13:47That's the day that Barry McCarthy was operated on.
13:52Maybe Jack went to visit him.
13:55Barry didn't see him that day.
13:58I'm lost.
14:01Why do you think he was there?
14:02I'm sure you have some sort of theory.
14:05I have a feeling that all this has to do with stealing Barry's hair and blood so that he could be framed for your sister's murder.
14:17And you think Jack did that with this doctor?
14:22How do you think?
14:23What happened with him today?
14:23What happened?
14:24Why is his car here?
14:24What did he say?
14:25Why is Miss Carver here?
14:26Please, why is this car here?
14:26Did the other thing help us to know what happened?
14:29Hold it, oh my God.
14:29Hold it.
14:30Hold it somebody nessa happened to get.
14:32Hold it.
14:32Angel.
14:32Hold it.
14:33Hold it.
14:33Hold it.
14:51Ms. Gardner and I met with the district attorney and the chief of police
14:56and asked that the investigation into Paul McCarthy's death be reopened
15:02because, well, new evidence has been found.
15:06What new evidence? What about Barry McCarthy?
15:08What's going on?
15:09It looks like my husband was involved in the death of my sister.
15:12Now why would your husband want to kill your sister?
15:15Well, I assume for money.
15:17My father is a very sick man and he has a lot of money.
15:21Now I'll inherit it all.
15:23I don't buy that for a minute.
15:41It just seems like she's trying to hang the whole thing on Jack.
15:47I agree completely.
15:54Now that pride was me.
15:56I have been right from time to time, you know.
16:12Hey.
16:13Oh, God, I'm glad it's here.
16:14How are you holding up?
16:16Not good, you know, not good at all.
16:19How'd you get in here?
16:20Oh, I told him I was your sister.
16:23It's a joke that you lighten up.
16:25Steve got me in.
16:26You've got to tell me honestly.
16:27What do you think of this Matlock guy?
16:29Well, I think he's kind of sweet.
16:31Sweet?
16:32That's not a quality that's going to get me out of here.
16:35I mean, do you think that his heart's in it?
16:37The guy never returns my call.
16:38That's because he's working on your case, Jesse.
16:40And I'm sure the man is working on hundreds of them.
16:44You know, it's just that maybe he's lost his step.
16:46And I'm sure he's very good, but he's not a kid anymore.
16:49Well, neither is Mark.
16:49But I don't think you'd want anyone else operating on you if your life were at stake.
16:53Just scared, you know.
16:55I mean, it's scary.
16:56It's going to be all right.
16:58No, I've never seen either of them.
17:14Did you ever see him before at Eric's house?
17:17No, I never saw any of them.
17:20Did you ever mention Jack or Debbie Gardner or Paula McCarthy?
17:24No, I never heard of them.
17:25I find this very hard to believe.
17:29I wanted to marry Eric.
17:31I thought I knew him.
17:33What you're saying is true.
17:34He was involved in a murder, and he helped frame an innocent man.
17:39Captain Bryant, once you realized Eric Spindler had been poised, what did you do?
17:45We started investigating who else had motive to kill him, and an individual jumped out of the pack.
17:52And that would be the defendant.
17:55What exactly made the defendant's motive to kill Eric Spindler so compelling?
18:05Eric Spindler was about to testify in a medical malpractice suit that could have ended the defendant's career as a doctor.
18:13When Dr. Spindler died and could not appear as a witness, the case against the defendant had to be dropped.
18:19In light of that, what did you do?
18:24We re-examined the evidence in the case.
18:28And what did you find?
18:30We found the defendant's fingerprints on the bottle of wine that contained the poison Mama King.
18:35What did you do next?
18:40We got a search warrant for the defendant's apartment.
18:44Did you find anything in the apartment?
18:47Yes, we did.
18:48In the defendant's bathroom, we found traces of Mama King, the poison that killed Dr. Spindler.
18:54Thank you, Captain.
18:57You're a witness.
18:59No questions, Your Honor.
19:04What do you mean, no questions?
19:06Ask him something.
19:07What do you want me to ask him?
19:21He's a fine boy.
19:23Man, I just hope he gets through this okay.
19:26I hope so, too.
19:28It must cost a fortune living here.
19:31You know, when I moved out here, everybody thought Malibu was too far from town.
19:35The property was dirt cheap.
19:36Now, kid.
19:38Oh.
19:39I went through my records, Ben.
19:41This will make us even.
19:45Oh, no.
19:46No, no, no, no, no, no.
19:48I don't want your money.
19:49This is for the exact amount.
19:51I thought you'd be thrilled.
19:52No, I don't want your money.
19:53You're not getting off that easy.
19:56Oh, I get it.
19:58You want to hold this over my head the rest of my life, don't you?
20:01It's a thought.
20:03Ben!
20:04I made those calls you wanted.
20:06You guys are right.
20:12We're excited, too.
20:13Diagnosis Murder will be right back on PAX TV.
20:16You're going to be all right.
20:28I got it.
20:29Don't worry.
20:30Really?
20:30Yeah.
20:31Mr. Matlock?
20:34I apologize to start out on such a sad note, but, uh...
20:41Well, isn't it true that, uh, almost three months ago, your sister, Paul, was found murdered in a motel room in Santa Barbara?
20:54Yes, that's correct.
20:56Yes, that's correct.
20:57And that her husband, Barry McCarthy, was subsequently arrested and indicted for the crime.
21:06That's true.
21:07And you have recently come forward to say publicly that you believe that Barry McCarthy has been wrongly accused and that, in fact, your husband, Jack, killed your sister.
21:21That's right.
21:23Boy.
21:23That's right.
21:24Boy.
21:25Implicating your own husband.
21:29That must have taken an awful lot of courage.
21:33Well, I appreciate you saying that, but the facts were pretty hard to ignore.
21:39Facts?
21:40But Barry's hair and blood were under your sister's fingernails.
21:45That's true, but there's also strong evidence that Jack was seen visiting Community General Hospital on the day that Barry was having surgery
21:52and that he took some of Barry's hair and blood in order to frame him for the murder.
21:58Oh, but with all the hospital security, how do you get in to get the hair and blood?
22:07I feel like I'm watching court TV, Your Honor.
22:12I mean, this is riveting stuff, but it's got nothing to do with the Eric Spindler murder.
22:19I'm kind of with him, Counselor.
22:20Well, Your Honor, I submit to you that the murder of Paul McCarthy and the murder of Eric Spindler are very closely related.
22:30If you'd just grant me a little leeway.
22:35I'll give you a little, Mr. Matlock.
22:38That we're talking?
22:44You went to Barry McCarthy's preliminary hearing, didn't you?
22:50Yes.
22:51Would I be accurate to say the presumption in the case was that Mr. McCarthy saw his wife Paula flirting and dancing with a man at a bar called Rowdy's
23:05and that he went into a drunken rage and later killed her?
23:09That was pretty much the case against him.
23:15Barry McCarthy has a reputation of being a very jealous man, doesn't he?
23:19Yeah.
23:22Mr. Kravitz, would you please stand?
23:25Do you know this man?
23:27Yes, I do.
23:29Is this the man who's dancing with your sister?
23:32Yeah, it's Nick Kravitz.
23:33I've known him for years.
23:35In fact, you invited him to Rowdy's to meet your sister, didn't you?
23:43Yes, I introduced him.
23:45Yeah.
23:46And why?
23:48He wanted to meet my sister.
23:50But you just said she was married to a very jealous man, yet you go ahead and introduce her to a handsome single friend of yours.
23:58It's almost as if you were baiting Barry McCarthy, as if you were trying to make him enraged so he'd do what he always did to your sister when he got drunk and angry.
24:10Oh, that's not true.
24:13It wasn't just Jack who framed Barry McCarthy.
24:18He needed you to make sure he was out of his mind with rage.
24:23Mike.
24:23Objection.
24:25Mr. Matlock, this has now turned into this.
24:31Do line and question him.
24:33Uh, yes, sir.
24:35Um, did you know Eric Spindler?
24:38No.
24:39Ever talked to him on the phone?
24:41No.
24:42But he did call your hotel six different times the day before he was killed, didn't he?
24:49I got six messages from him, yes.
24:52Yeah.
24:52Let me ask you something.
24:55You have a home in Santa Barbara, yet when I saw you working the other day, you were staying in a hotel.
25:03Why?
25:05My house is about an hour away from the location.
25:08It's easier to stay at a hotel.
25:09It saves time.
25:10Oh.
25:11I don't know.
25:12That makes sense.
25:13Uh, this is a copy of, uh, of your phone bill for the month of January.
25:23Now, underlined in yellow is a 12-minute call made on January 9th.
25:28Did you make that call?
25:30No, I didn't.
25:32Well, if you didn't make the call, who did?
25:36I suspect Jack made the call, Mr. Matlock.
25:39I already told you.
25:41I believe Jack got Barry's blood and hair from Eric Spindler.
25:44They were partners.
25:45That's probably what they were talking about on the phone.
25:47Oh.
25:49Okay.
25:49Yeah.
25:51Yeah.
25:51Yeah.
25:51Yeah.
25:52Hang on.
25:53Hang on.
25:54Uh, would you please tell the court what this is?
26:01It's Jack's hotel bill from the Royal of Vancouver.
26:12And the date?
26:16January 9th.
26:18So how could Jack place a call from your house if he was in Vancouver?
26:24Look, I didn't make that call, and I don't know who did.
26:27You're a wealthier woman now that your sister's dead, aren't you?
26:33You get her share of the inheritance.
26:35I did not kill my sister.
26:38You and Jack did.
26:40And Eric Spindler gave you the blood and hair to frame her husband.
26:45Why are you doing this to me?
26:48I don't understand.
26:49I saved your life.
26:50This is how you repay me?
26:52Young lady, you will please confine your answers to the questions asked of you.
26:56It's all right, Your Honor.
26:58She did save my life, and she deserves an answer.
27:03I believe that you told Jack to kill me,
27:10and that you purposely drowned him.
27:14Part of your plan.
27:15Get rid of him and frame him for the murder of Eric Spindler.
27:20That is so untrue.
27:22We'll see about that.
27:23It wasn't Jack who spoke to Eric Spindler.
27:28You're the one who made that 12-minute call.
27:30You're the one who spoke to him on the phone.
27:33No, I didn't.
27:34If you didn't make the call, then who did, Debbie?
27:38It wasn't me.
27:40Who made the call?
27:41Do you want to scoot, Mr. Matlock?
27:48It couldn't have been me who made the call, either.
27:50I was on a plane.
27:51Oh, come on.
27:53I was on a private plane to Mexico.
27:55Why didn't you say that in the first place?
27:59It wasn't relevant.
28:00Where in Mexico was there a flight plan?
28:08Your Honor...
28:10I flew to Zamora, okay?
28:13Zamora?
28:14Where's Zamora?
28:16It's two hours due south of Guadalajara.
28:19Check it out.
28:20Check out the airport.
28:21I was there.
28:29Mr. Matlock?
28:37There's nothing for us.
28:38You had her.
28:50You said everything was going to be okay.
28:54Jesse.
28:56Everything's not okay.
28:59I got a bad feeling that she's telling the truth.
29:08No criminal record.
29:10One year at Houston City College.
29:13Born 1970 in Oklahoma City.
29:17Two years on a rodeo, sir.
29:19The guy at the rodeo association said that Debbie could have been a real star if she stuck around.
29:24How's it going?
29:25It's not.
29:27Anything come for me today?
29:30No.
29:31Were you expecting something?
29:33You'll know it when you see it.
29:36It's gone, Debbie.
29:38Uh, she moved to L.A. in 1993.
29:41Lives in the valley in Granada Hills.
29:44California driver's license.
29:46One speeding ticket.
29:47As a 1992 Corvette.
29:50Black, registered in her name.
29:52She, uh, married Jack Gardner in 1991.
29:56He, uh, was born and raised in Banning, New Mexico.
29:59Quit high school after his junior year.
30:01No criminal record.
30:02Worked as a...
30:03Wait a minute.
30:03I know someone from Banning, New Mexico.
30:06Yeah?
30:07Yeah?
30:08Well, let's see.
30:08We're already here.
30:13They found the monarchy in Jesse's bathroom.
30:16That's it.
30:16You know, these doctors turn out to be pretty good investigators.
30:41Maybe you'd like to take one back to Atlanta with me.
30:47What's your father done?
30:49I've given a past.
30:51Well, they can't get past the locks on the front door or the sliding glass doors.
31:11You know, you'd have to be mighty tall to get through with us.
31:13You know.
31:15I believe I can.
31:19Now, wait, Ben.
31:21It's broken.
31:21Oh, would you look at that.
31:31I guess it's pretty ironic that you're testifying in this case.
31:46You were actually the first person charged with their expensive murder, weren't you?
31:51Yes, I was.
31:52Yes, I was.
31:53Would you tell the court how that happened?
31:56Eric and I were practically engaged when I discovered I was pregnant.
32:00And much to my surprise, Eric didn't want to have anything to do with the child.
32:07We had several fights about it.
32:09And then on the day he died, we had an enormous fight at his house.
32:15He threw me out.
32:19And he told me he never wanted to see me again.
32:22I was completely flipped out when I left.
32:25I came out the door and I bumped right into Eric's neighbor, Eddie Price.
32:29He's driving me.
32:32Are you all right?
32:34I hate him.
32:35Did you have fun?
32:37He's out of control.
32:38I don't know what I said to him.
32:42I'm sure it wasn't very nice.
32:46And then I went home, had a couple drinks, and I got even angrier.
32:54At some point, I called Eric.
32:55I'm not sure why.
32:59And when he hung up on me, I went nuts.
33:04I decided to go back to his house.
33:07You have to understand, I have always wanted a child.
33:11I wanted a family.
33:14He was ruining everything that I had dreamed of.
33:17Open the door, Eric!
33:25I was so angry when he didn't ask the door.
33:55I knew where he hid a key, and I let myself in.
34:01I kept yelling his name, and he wouldn't answer.
34:04And when I saw him laying there, I just went berserk.
34:10And I picked up a lamp, and I threw it at him.
34:13And that's when you called the police and turned yourself in.
34:17I thought I killed him.
34:21But then you were released when the autopsy showed that Dr. Spender had been poisoned and was dead when you entered the house.
34:31That's correct.
34:33I guess what they say about the truth being stranger than fiction is pretty correct.
34:37I guess.
34:39Certainly the strangest case I've ever been on.
34:43Are you aware that the police found a picture of Jack Gardner in his floor safe?
34:55Yes, I am.
34:56Oh, that's right.
34:57You're the one who told them to look in that safe, didn't you?
35:00No, actually, I told them that my earrings might be in the safe.
35:03Oh, but when they showed you this picture, you said you didn't know this man.
35:09Is that right?
35:10Yes, it is.
35:11It turns out Jack Gardner grew up in a little town, Banning, New Mexico.
35:17Ms. Murtico, where did you grow up?
35:21I say, where were you raised?
35:24Banning, New Mexico.
35:27Well, is that a coincidence?
35:29The two people in a town of, what, 8,000?
35:36And you say you never ran into it.
35:40Well, if I did, I don't remember.
35:43Are you now saying you might have met her?
35:48No, no, no.
35:49I'm saying that it's possible that we could have met.
35:52I just, I don't remember it.
35:54Well, you ought to hear another coincidence.
35:59Mrs. Padilla's Spanish class, 11th grade, 14 students.
36:07Guess who two of those students were?
36:13For weeks now, I believed that Eric Spindler conspired with Jack Gardner to murder Paula McCarthy.
36:22I believed that Eric Spindler got Barry McCarthy's blood and hair so that Jack Gardner could frame him.
36:30That's what you and Debbie wanted me to believe, wasn't it?
36:33I was wrong.
36:36So how much money did Jack and Debbie give you for that hair and blood?
36:42Half a million?
36:43What?
36:44Well, their inheritance was in the millions.
36:47You are completely out of line.
36:52Only Eric found out, didn't he?
36:55This is ridiculous.
36:57We know that Eric assisted in the operation on Barry McCarthy's back.
37:03We know he had that news tape showing Barry being arrested for Paula's murder.
37:08On that same tape was Jack Gardner pretending to comfort Barry.
37:14We know he called Debbie.
37:17He asked for her by name six different times the day before he was murdered.
37:22We know he had this picture.
37:24Jack Gardner is safe.
37:26I imagine you thought nobody saw you talking with Jack Gardner at the hospital.
37:32But Eric saw you, didn't he?
37:35He got suspicious.
37:36He started to nose around.
37:40And he was about to close in on you.
37:42And that's why you killed him.
37:46Objection!
37:47Before you start jumping up and down, I got proof.
37:50You have no proof because there isn't any proof.
37:53Your Honor, go ahead.
37:58Miss Marticule, you were brilliant.
38:02Absolutely brilliant.
38:03You knew if Eric Spindler were murdered, you would be the prime suspect.
38:10Your problem started after you poisoned Eric.
38:14You ran out of the house and ran into Edward Price.
38:18He could place you at the scene of the crime.
38:21And that's when you came up with this amazing idea.
38:29You made it appear that you killed him hours later.
38:33When it would never occur to anyone that you were the one who had poisoned him hours earlier.
38:42When you went back to his house, it's not exactly the way you told him.
38:50You made a lot of noise, yeah.
38:52But this time, you wanted Edward Price to know you were in there.
38:58It was essential that he know you were in there.
39:02You did call Eric from your apartment to make it seem like he was still alive.
39:10He didn't hang up on you.
39:12He was dead.
39:13You were talking to his answer machine, knowing that that would appear on your phone bill.
39:18When you went in his house, you erased your voice from that answer machine tape.
39:30You put the headphones on him so it appeared he couldn't hear you.
39:37Turn off that music and look at me!
39:40Isaac, look at me!
39:45And then you hit him with a lamp.
39:48Knowing that Edward Price would catch you and knowing the autopsy would show he was already dead.
40:00And the motive had nothing to do with the fact that you were pregnant.
40:04It was that Eric knew you were involved in Paula McCarthy's murder.
40:11Eric saw you talking to Jack Gardner at the hospital, didn't he?
40:16I told you I don't know Jack Gardner.
40:18Did you go to work, uh, January 9th?
40:21I have no idea.
40:22This is the payroll record from the community general hospital.
40:36Just, uh, read what it says right here about you on January 9th.
40:43Do you know?
40:43I apparently took a sick day.
40:46What was wrong?
40:48I honestly don't remember.
40:50Well, maybe I can, uh, jar your memory.
40:54This is a credit card receipt for a new tire.
40:58Signed by you on January 9th.
41:02In Santa Barbara.
41:03So I guess you were in Santa Barbara.
41:05So what?
41:06You were at Debbie Gardner's house, weren't you?
41:09You were the one that made that 12-minute call to Eric Spindler from Debbie's house, weren't you?
41:16No.
41:17But Debbie was on a plane to Mexico.
41:20What were you doing hanging around the house waiting for her?
41:24I told you I wasn't in her house.
41:26Could be because the only place you can get Mama Kane is Mexico.
41:32And you were waiting for her to return to give you that deadly poison that you were going to use on Eric Spindler.
41:41My God, no.
41:43You were Jack's contact at Community General.
41:47You're the one who got Barry's hair and blood.
41:51Objection.
41:52Proof, Your Honor.
41:53Where is this report?
41:54Okay, proof, proof, proof, proof, proof, proof.
41:56Mr. Matlock.
41:59Yes, sir.
42:00Proof.
42:02I, uh, I, I noticed you're wearing a pantsuit today.
42:08Do you always wear pants?
42:11A lot of the time.
42:12Could it be that you have a, a bruise or a scrape or something that you're trying to hide?
42:21I have nothing to hide.
42:23So if I ask you to pull your pants leg up to your knees, would you do it?
42:28No, of course not.
42:31I didn't think so.
42:32The reason I asked was that in order for you to frame, uh, Jesse Travis, you had to, uh, break into his apartment, steal a bottle of wine, any bottle of wine.
42:47And his fingerprints were on all of them and plant a little bit of monocaine in his bathroom.
42:53But the problem, the front door had two big locks.
42:58And then the sliding door had one of those, those bars down.
43:03You can't open it.
43:04And, and, and the windows were up high.
43:07Too high for me.
43:08And I'm, I'm taller than you.
43:10But you were a woman with purpose and ingenuity.
43:14Oh, Ms. Mertica, would you, what is your blood type?
43:22You, you're, you're a nurse.
43:23You must know your blood type.
43:26Type AB negative.
43:28AB negative.
43:30That's pretty rare, isn't it?
43:31Well, it's, it's rare.
43:32It's not uncommon.
43:33Well, the reason I asked that is, uh, this chair was taken from, uh, patio by my client, Jesse Travis's apartment.
43:51And I believe you stood on this chair to get through an open window, steal that wine, and plant that poison.
43:58But this chair wicker.
43:59Uh, here, would you, uh, this police report, just read what's highlighted here in yellow.
44:25If you could read, so, so we can all hear.
44:29The tests show conclusively that the blood on the chair is type AB negative.
44:40That's your blood type.
44:44From the cuts you've got trying to break into my client's apartment.
44:52So, I'll ask you again.
44:57Would you, uh, pull your pants leg up so we can see the cuts?
45:05Well, if there's no mark, I'm wrong and you have nothing to lose.
45:12What's that?
45:12What's that?
45:29I'm right.
45:29I'm right.
45:41I thought you'd be celebrating.
45:45That's amazing.
45:47You worked with someone for years.
45:49I think you know them.
45:51Jerry was evil.
45:53You know, she didn't just commit a crime.
45:55More than that, she framed one man for money.
45:58She framed me just because I was available.
46:01Not to mention she committed murder.
46:04I see if I could have gone to prison for the rest of my life,
46:06and I don't think she would have thought twice about it.
46:09Well, the D.A. in Santa Barbara is filing murder charges against Debbie today.
46:14Can you imagine drowning her husband and planning her own sister's murder?
46:20What is ready?
46:23Where's Ben?
46:25He said he'd be late.
46:27He's a guest of honor.
46:29Here it is. Here it is. Here it is. Here it is.
46:33This came out about the same time as the Edsel and sold about as well.
46:41This gizmo, ladies and gentlemen, is one of the last remaining 8-track cartridges in the entire world.
46:49You know, I vaguely remember seeing something like that.
46:52Yeah, I think they replaced him with audio cassettes. Better hand fast.
46:55Replaced, right.
46:56All right.
46:58Ladies and gentlemen, I told him to invest in them.
47:02I was wrong, okay?
47:04I gave a chance to get his money back just the other day.
47:07In 1969, he, my investment counselor, told me to put my life savings into these turkeys.
47:16Hollywood doctor, in touch with all the bigwigs in the music biz, who said this would be the biggest thing since the LP.
47:24And it was, for about a minute, I heard the story.
47:28I had $5,000 saved up, and I put all of it, every penny, into these, as I say, turkeys.
47:37I didn't have the money to buy these fine, handmade suits.
47:41Had to get cheap stuff off the rack.
47:44You think it's odd that I eat so many hot dogs.
47:47That's how I got started.
47:49That's all I could afford.
47:51I'm so sorry.
47:52I am really sorry.
47:53If I could just relive that one brief moment in my life.
47:58I'm sorry.
47:59Yeah.
48:00Yeah, well.
48:02Yeah, yeah.
48:07Well, I'm sorry, too.
48:10I thought I'd have more fun out of this.
48:14What say we let bygone be bygone?
48:17Oh, that would be a big relief to me, Ben.
48:19Good, good, good.
48:20Now, what can we do for some real fun?
48:25Oh, mule, you kickin' mule.
48:27Oh, mule, I say.
48:29I ain't got time to fishin' out my mule around the way.
48:33Well, I used to have that old banjoas all strung up with twine.
48:37And the only song you could hear me sing was the wish that gal was mine.
48:41Well, the wish that gal was mine.
48:43Boy, the wish that gal was mine.
48:45And the only song you could hear me sing was the wish that gal was mine.
48:49Well, I took my wife to the barnyard.
48:52I set her down to supper.
48:54She got choked on her jerky leg and stuck her nose in the butter.
48:58Well, stuck her nose in the butter.
49:00Stuck her nose in the butter.
49:02She got choked on her jerky leg and stuck her nose in the butter.
49:06Well, your face is like a coffee pot.
49:09Your nose is like a spout.
49:10Your mouth is like a fireplace with all ashes out.
49:15Well, with all ashes out, boys, with all ashes out.
49:19Your mouth is like a fireplace with all ashes out.
49:23Well, oh, mule, you kickin' mule.
49:26Oh, mule, I say.
49:28I ain't got time to fishin' out my mule around the way.
49:32I ain't got time to fishin' out my Root.
49:38You
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