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00:00It's a must-win game.
00:02Well, yeah, I do think it's a must-win, guys,
00:04because I'm not sure this team has the mental makeup to come back
00:09and be one of those very few teams that makes a playoff appearance
00:14when starting season 0-2.
00:16That is very rare in the numbers that I've been giving all morning.
00:20Since 2007, 73 teams have started the year 0-2.
00:25Only six of them have made the postseason.
00:27So when you talk about a must-win game, are the Lions,
00:30you know, there's so many people that are Lions waiters in this town,
00:34as you like to call them, Rico, Lions realists.
00:38Are the Lions really that good to the point where you think,
00:41oh, they're going to be in that elite company of teams
00:44to have made the postseason after starting year 0-2?
00:47I just simply don't think that's the case.
00:50I got it. I got it.
00:51But there's a bigger issue that came up last night,
00:54and I'd like to know, Ryan, what were you thinking
00:59when you made this fantasy football trade?
01:01Oh.
01:02What were you thinking?
01:03You gave up Marshawn Lynch and T.Y. Hilton
01:06for Latavius Murray, Nelson Aguilar, and Dez Bryant.
01:13Is Dez Bryant still alive?
01:15I think...
01:16Illusion.
01:16Okay, I think the Philadelphia receivers and Aguilar
01:21had a terrible first game.
01:23But I think he is going to be a guy
01:26that is going to burst onto the scene.
01:30I like getting Dez Bryant for later in the season,
01:33being that, you know, I get a big playoff push,
01:36boost out of Dez Bryant.
01:39And look, Latavius Murray, you know, he's a decent running back.
01:43I mean, he's not Marshawn Lynch, but, you know...
01:46What did you get out of this deal?
01:48I didn't get any.
01:49Who was the trade with?
01:50With Dennis Farrell.
01:52I mean, he saw you coming.
01:54He saw you coming, was just standing there
01:57leaning against a sign post flipping a quarter.
01:59Like, yep.
02:00Okay.
02:01Do we get to vote on this?
02:02Yeah, we get to vote on it.
02:03You said...
02:03Maz was like, no.
02:05No way this is happening.
02:07Rico, let's just...
02:08Full transparency.
02:09Let's get all this on the table right now.
02:11Something happened yesterday where
02:14we were talking about fantasy football,
02:16and what did you say?
02:18I don't care about this league.
02:20Isn't that what came out of your mouth?
02:22Money leagues.
02:24Money leagues.
02:25And there's no money on this league.
02:26So...
02:26Whoa, whoa, whoa.
02:27Then why even be in it?
02:28So, here you go.
02:29See, the thing with me...
02:31I think we made a mistake.
02:32Basically, you made a bad trade,
02:34and now you're trying to drag me down?
02:35Yeah.
02:36So you're saying because there's no cash...
02:38I think we made a mistake
02:39by not putting anything on this league.
02:41I thought it was $10 a person.
02:43No?
02:44Yeah.
02:44Dude, you got fleek.
02:45I haven't paid it yet.
02:47Yeah, it was.
02:48I thought I read it.
02:49Yeah, it was.
02:50I'm the commissioner.
02:50Yes, it was.
02:51Yeah, here you go.
02:52It was $10 a person.
02:54Okay, okay.
02:54Per team.
02:55But, Rico, the point is,
02:56I think we made a big mistake
02:58with this league
02:59in not putting anything on it.
03:01You know,
03:01Dave Shore runs the league.
03:03He could have said,
03:03okay, winner of the league
03:05gets a day off,
03:05a free day off,
03:06you know, something.
03:07Right.
03:08It doesn't even have to be money related.
03:10It could be,
03:11dude, you know what?
03:12You don't have to come to work today.
03:14Free day off
03:15to the winner of the league.
03:17Yeah, that would have been nice.
03:19A steak dinner.
03:20Wait, no, it is a steak dinner.
03:22Yeah, steak dinner.
03:22Steak dinner is on the line.
03:23Dave takes the winner out
03:24for a steak dinner.
03:26Oh, I didn't know that.
03:27Yeah, it's in the instructions.
03:29I don't read any instructions.
03:29And if Dave wins,
03:31then we take him out
03:33for a dinner.
03:34Maz,
03:35jump in here
03:36because we're talking
03:37about this trade.
03:38I'm disgusting.
03:39But look.
03:40No, no, no, you look.
03:41I gotta have something
03:43riding on him.
03:44Don't play in my league
03:44if you're gonna do things like that.
03:46I gotta have something
03:46riding on him.
03:47Let the big shot king
03:48when he calls himself,
03:49let him earn it.
03:50He drafted like a schmo.
03:52Let him earn it.
03:53You gave him your two best players.
03:54T.Y. Held is injured.
03:57Yes, he's one week.
03:58He's terrible,
04:00T.Y. Hill.
04:01Your guy's out
04:01for three quarters
04:02of the season.
04:03What a greasy trade,
04:04honestly.
04:05Uh-oh, Dave Shore
04:06is in studio.
04:06What's mister?
04:07There's nothing on the line.
04:09And then,
04:09you didn't even read
04:10the emails?
04:11It's a steak dinner.
04:12Oh, okay.
04:13Get out of my league.
04:14That's good.
04:16Get out.
04:17No, I'm bad.
04:18Just veto the trade
04:19and we'll start all over.
04:20If I'm in the league,
04:21I consider it my league.
04:22In other words,
04:22I want to play fair.
04:24All right,
04:24veto the league
04:25and I'll win this damn league
04:27and I'll get my
04:28steak dinner,
04:28medium rare.
04:29By the way,
04:30here's a nice new shovel
04:31so you can help
04:32dig that hole
04:32a little bit quicker
04:33that you're sinking in.
04:35Let's just stop digging.
04:36Don't drag me with you.
04:37You need to go online
04:42and veto your own trade.
04:43How do I do it?
04:44Rico,
04:44you need to veto the trade.
04:45I'll give you my password.
04:46You know what?
04:47Mass,
04:48Mass,
04:48my thing is this.
04:49I,
04:50in my league,
04:51I don't legislate stupidity.
04:53If you want to be stupid
04:54and give away players,
04:55it's your God-given right
04:57to be stupid.
04:58So I needed to ask him
04:59if he knew what he was doing.
05:01Because if he wanted
05:02these three players,
05:03you might as well
05:04get Terrell Owens,
05:05dude,
05:05because you'll get more
05:06out of him
05:06than Des Bryant this year.
05:08I called him right away
05:09and I'm like,
05:09what did you do?
05:10So I accepted this trade
05:13and 3.4 seconds later
05:15I get a text from Mass,
05:18which first and foremost
05:19was just downright incredible
05:21that you were on it
05:22that quick.
05:22That quick.
05:23It comes over on my phone
05:25and I'm like,
05:26what the hell did he do?
05:27So I had to write you.
05:29I got my vote, Mass.
05:31You're going to vote against it, Mass?
05:32That is bad.
05:33Rico,
05:34please vote against it.
05:35All right, cool.
05:35So how do we veto the trade?
05:37Let's go online.
05:39Let me do it right now.
05:41All right,
05:41I'm bringing it up for you.
05:42Okay, bring it up.
05:43Put my password in.
05:44Fantasy football.
05:47Hold on.
05:48This is great radio.
05:49You're going to have to sign in here.
05:52Look at Joe Marasso
05:54from the...
05:55What did Joe say?
05:56Drew and Mark, baby.
05:57He's just shaking his head at me.
05:59Joe, you've got to kill it.
06:01This is my gun.
06:02It's all over town.
06:03Yeah.
06:03All right.
06:04No, it's not.
06:05It's not on.
06:06Just switch with Rob.
06:08Turn that mic off, guys.
06:08Hold on.
06:09Who wants it?
06:10Who wants it over here?
06:11We got mics.
06:11Okay, wait.
06:12Let's see.
06:13Trade proposals.
06:14Oh, yeah, Joe.
06:15How do I do it?
06:16I don't know how to do it.
06:17How did you make the trade?
06:18I accepted the trade.
06:20He saw...
06:21You notice he didn't make a trade
06:22with anybody else.
06:24Week one...
06:25I mean, he gave you Dez Bryant.
06:27I'm like, wow.
06:29Wow.
06:30I thought maybe it was a reason
06:32why you like those other guys.
06:33Okay, I'm going to win the lake still.
06:35You guys watch me come back now.
06:37No, no, you're not going to...
06:38After this trade is revoked,
06:41please, take care of your team problem.
06:43Please.
06:44After this trade is revoked...
06:46What, am I that guy now?
06:47I'll trade you.
06:48I'll trade with you.
06:49No, I'm not trading with you.
06:50Come on.
06:50There's no other dark side.
06:51No more trades.
06:52My team is my team.
06:54No, no, no.
06:54Just give me my players back, Maz.
06:56Can I come in here?
06:58Hello?
06:59Yeah, go ahead, pal.
07:00Hi.
07:02Hi, Matt.
07:02Thank you for the introduction.
07:04Can we stop?
07:06Listen to me.
07:07Ryan made a trade.
07:09That's it.
07:10No, no, that's not it.
07:10No, it's not.
07:11I agree.
07:12No, that's it, Matt.
07:12Ryan is the general manager of the trade.
07:14So you're saying he's speaking of the trade.
07:15He's letting people have spoken.
07:17This is an ugly trade.
07:18What are we in?
07:18Some kind of wussy league?
07:20He said he made a mistake.
07:21Thank you, Deez.
07:21Deez, I said...
07:22I don't let's...
07:23If you want to make the trade...
07:24I don't know...
07:25That's your trade.
07:26I'm going to win the league.
07:27Listen to me.
07:29Yeah!
07:29Come on, Rhino.
07:30Ask him who he traded for.
07:32Listen to me.
07:32But ask him.
07:33I saw the trade.
07:35The trade stinks.
07:37The trade stinks.
07:38You know what?
07:39But did the Marlins GM call the other GMs and go,
07:41What do I do?
07:42Revoke this.
07:43Would Dave Dombrowski pants him on the Mickey trade?
07:46No.
07:46Trade to trade.
07:47But they don't get a chance to vote.
07:49We do.
07:49What is that?
07:50What kind of league is that?
07:51Matt, you don't play fantasy.
07:52I don't play fantasy.
07:54This is what you do.
07:55No, no, no.
07:55This is what you do, really?
07:56Yes.
07:57Matt, here's why.
07:58Because normally at the end of the year,
08:00You get the guy who doesn't care and says,
08:03I'll give you Tom Brady and Adrian Peterson for joint bill and Golden Pick.
08:09But this trade isn't that bad.
08:11It's been vetoed.
08:134-1 around.
08:13This is so stupid.
08:16What is that?
08:16I haven't even had my players back on my team.
08:19And I'm going to win this week.
08:20Hey, look.
08:20Maybe I don't know what's going on.
08:22Maybe I'm...
08:22You normally don't get a trade this bad after week one.
08:25There it is.
08:26Okay.
08:27For people that are just joining us...
08:28Hey.
08:28For people that are just joining us on WMGC-FM HD1 Detroit,
08:32Can you please read this off again and what's going on so that the audience knows?
08:35Okay, so yesterday.
08:37So yesterday, Dennis Farrell...
08:38Right.
08:39The gold standard.
08:40The gold standard sent me a one.
08:41Whose ass I kicked, by the way, in week one.
08:43It was 0-1-1.
08:43Good job, D.
08:44I powerbomb.
08:45Thank you, Rob.
08:45Sent me a trade request.
08:47Latavius Murray, Nelson Aguilar, and Dez Bryant.
08:51Nelson Aguilar wasn't barely even on the field the other night.
08:54He was on the field for the second most plays.
08:58You might as well have got Terrell Owens.
09:00They never threw it over.
09:01Trust me.
09:01I was going up against him.
09:03And for Marshall Lynch, T.Y.
09:05Stop.
09:06Marshall Lynch and T.Y.
09:08Hilton.
09:08Let him talk.
09:09One more time.
09:10Davius Murray, Nelson Aguilar, and Dez Bryant.
09:13Go from his team.
09:15To the gold standard.
09:16From Marshall Lynch and T.Y.
09:18Hilton.
09:18Jesus, that is a terrible trade.
09:22T.Y.
09:22Hilton is injured.
09:23He will be all year long.
09:25No, he's not injured.
09:26He's a game-time decision for Monday night.
09:28That's right.
09:28He's in my heart.
09:29He's a China doll.
09:31He's a China doll.
09:31T.Y.
09:32Hilton's a stunt.
09:33T.Y.
09:33Hilton is all the talent in the world.
09:35And Nazarico and Ron Kreitner talking me into maybe vetoing this myself.
09:40It's already done.
09:41It's already done already.
09:42We don't need you.
09:43I got my credit.
09:44I got it.
09:45Hold on a second.
09:47But with all this being said, we need to have a rule from here on out.
09:51I wasn't aware of all.
09:53Look, I didn't read all the rules of Dave Shore, Beat the Boss, ESPN, 14 people.
09:57It's a natural rule.
09:58It's a rule.
09:58Is it really?
09:59So it's natural in all leads?
10:01It's protection from idiots.
10:02It's a rule.
10:03It's a rule.
10:04It's an idiot from guys at the end of the season who are trying to take.
10:07Okay, but you said, Ron, you just said a key word.
10:09End of the season.
10:10Right.
10:11So we're in week one and, Hermione, is this stupid?
10:15Don't call him stupid.
10:17I'm not.
10:17As long as we're having this meeting, can we also call out the people that as the season
10:22gets about four or five weeks in, don't even look at the roster.
10:26Okay, wait a minute.
10:27Wait a minute.
10:27Don't join the league if you're not going to play.
10:29You guys think I'm stupid.
10:31You know what I call myself?
10:32Savvy?
10:32I'm a businessman.
10:35Wait a minute.
10:37Wait a minute.
10:38I'm a businessman.
10:39Do you think for one second that there wasn't a little thing sweetened on the side of this
10:45whole thing here?
10:46You mean to tell me that Dennis Farrell threw money at you?
10:49Or cigars?
10:51Or food?
10:53It's even worse.
10:54She'd get Farrell on the horn.
10:55So if the winner of the league gets a steak dinner, right?
11:09There's also some other things that are involved.
11:11If a winner that I am not aware of.
11:14All of the minions pay for Dave if he wins, but he pays for the winner if they win.
11:17And you are listening to WMCC-FMHD1.
11:20I already said it.
11:20You're not even listening.
11:23You're not even listening.
11:24I did it two weeks ago.
11:26We're in stereo.
11:26If the winner of the league gets a steak dinner at the end of this thing, paid by whoever,
11:33it's a free steak dinner for the winner, right?
11:35Yes.
11:36If I am offered the same compensation as the winner of the league, why wouldn't I, as a
11:43businessman, take the deal?
11:45Because it's not about a steak dinner.
11:47It's about dragging rights.
11:49At least make the deal look...
11:51You're a total tool then.
11:53Right.
11:53At least make the deal look like it's kind of fair.
11:58Hey, I'm a businessman.
12:00I'm not messing around with all this stuff.
12:03Gee.
12:03This is draft shenanigans all over.
12:05Why not just...
12:06Why not...
12:06No more Chris Carter in there, too, since you're getting washed up wide receivers.
12:10I was unaware that this league and all these other leagues have this beat-told move.
12:14What, you couldn't get Randy Moss?
12:14I was unaware.
12:15Sorry, I think that's kind of sissy ball to me.
12:18Dennis Bryant, yeah.
12:19Why not Randy Moss?
12:20Does this go on everywhere else?
12:22I don't know.
12:22This is a crazy league.
12:24Get petite, Randy.
12:24Yeah, get petite, Randy.
12:25I love you.
12:26I love you.
12:26We're one big kid and Irmadi is sitting there at Lone Star tonight and his hands at ease.
12:32Where's Dennis?
12:32He's late.
12:33I was trying to sell it.
12:35So Maz texted me yesterday.
12:37I'm trying to sell it.
12:38I texted him yesterday.
12:40As soon as the deal was done, I said, you got absolutely robbed by Dennis.
12:44Then he writes, I'm in love with Dez.
12:46I want him for a late-season playoff push.
12:48I write him back, playoff?
12:49You won't even make it to mid-season.
12:51Then he says, my team sucks.
12:53I had to do something.
12:54I said, that's not it, bro.
12:56He said, I'm getting that trade vetoed.
12:59I love you, though.
13:00And he said, feel free.
13:01Get me back.
13:02Get my guys back.
13:03One more time on the trade, please, because people are just tuning in.
13:07One more time on the trade.
13:08Who is it again?
13:09Dez Bryant.
13:10Dez Bryant, Latavius Murray, and Nelson Aguilar in return.
13:16Hold on.
13:16I'm writing this down.
13:17Okay.
13:18Latavius Murray, Nelson Aguilar, and Dez Bryant, I would receive for T.Y. Hilton and Marshawn Lane.
13:27You also dropped Deshaun Jackson.
13:29Huh?
13:29And I dropped Deshaun Jackson because he sucks.
13:32I mean, everybody could have him.
13:34You could have him.
13:36All right.
13:37All right.
13:37I don't understand.
13:41I know that at the end of the year it gets a little hairy and everything else, and there
13:45should be some sort of vetoing for end of the year.
13:48But I'm not vetoing this.
13:50This is Ryan's decision.
13:51Well, it's already done.
13:52It's done.
13:53It's done.
13:53If the majority of the owners say no, then it's over.
13:57If you want to put blinders on and not veto on the place.
13:59I'm not putting, Tom, I'm not putting blinders on.
14:01It's not a good trade, but it's what Ryan wanted to do after one week.
14:04No, but if you ask him, I just gave you the text.
14:07He said, get my guys back, please.
14:11Ryan, you're all over the place, man.
14:13What do you mean?
14:13You don't know what you're doing.
14:15Like, you know what you're doing, but you don't.
14:16What do you want to do?
14:17Do you want this trade to go through or not?
14:19Yes or no?
14:20Let's get this out on the record right now.
14:21How do you feel now?
14:23Forget Maz.
14:24Forget everybody else.
14:24Okay, you know, okay, this is how I feel now.
14:27The way I feel now is I want my players back, and I just want to kick all of your tails
14:32in all season long, and I will win this league.
14:36What are you, 0-1-1 or 1-0?
14:380-1.
14:390-1-1 from last week.
14:40Who'd you lose to last week?
14:42I lost to the boss man, the boss man bootleggers.
14:46Yeah.
14:47Gotcha.
14:47Okay.
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14:53We're family, you and me.
14:54I won't let anything happen.
14:55Oh, I love you, Maz.
14:56I won't let anything happen to you.
14:57I said give us looking out for you.
14:59That's where time's the best.
15:00I don't need to go.