00:00of the so-called EJK were compelled to sue abroad in as much as there was a failure of
00:28our justice system.
00:31The DFA is more than familiar with that, kapisado natin yan, lahat ng treaty, complementarity
00:36is a rule of complimentary.
00:37Sabi naman ni Senator Santiago, the rule of complementarity, I think the DFA is more than
00:43familiar with that, kapisado natin yan, lahat ng treaty, complementarity is a rule of complementarity.
00:47But Senator Sanchago said, the rule of complementarity, I think the DFA is more than familiar with that.
00:56All treaties say complementarity.
01:00If the courts in the Philippines don't allow or don't allow, that's where we'll end up in the ICC. Is that correct?
01:10Ma'am, I can...
01:13The thing is, those who went to the ICC tried to get justice in the Philippines.
01:21But they failed.
01:23But Senator Cayetano said earlier that none of the cases were handled here.
01:28That's right. The problem here is,
01:31the things that happened, especially in Mindanao,
01:35the prosecutors didn't do anything at that time.
01:38The cases were not handled.
01:40Because...
01:41What you're saying is there's a conspiracy?
01:43There are. There are those who filed complaints.
01:47But nothing happened.
01:49That's why they went to the ICC.
01:52We'll ask for...
01:53I don't know them, ma'am.
01:54But those I talked to a few days ago, that's what they're telling us.
02:01Thank you very much. But if possible, give us a copy of the DOJ,
02:05because we don't know that not a single case was handled in any court in the Philippines.
02:10If you have...
02:11We'll work hard. We'll look for it.
02:13Okay.
02:14But it seems that our cabinet is now admitting,
02:21all the bodies that are here,
02:23that our judiciary system, our courts, doesn't work anymore.
02:28Our judiciary system works.
02:30But we heard, the great senator,
02:33that it's already past,
02:35that the ICC is just the last resort.
02:38We shouldn't go there if we're not already exhausted,
02:43if we're already surrendering.
02:45How many years have they been going to the ICC?
02:48It's not just now.
02:50They went to the ICC in 2016, 2017.
02:54Not yet.
02:55During President Duterte's presidency.
02:57They're already demanding.
02:59That's what should be made clear here.
03:02They didn't go there just 3 years ago.
03:06They went there 8 or 9 years ago.
03:09Because a lot of this happened in Davao,
03:12when President Duterte was still a mayor.
03:15So I hope you can give us a list of the cases that were handled in the Philippines,
03:21that were not handled,
03:23that there's no hope of success.
03:26That's one.
03:27Second,
03:28our president has repeatedly said several times,
03:33that the courts are walking here,
03:36that our judges and lawyers will do their job.
03:39Why are we suddenly admitting that our courts have fallen?
03:44That's right.
03:45There was a time when nothing happened to the EJK cases.
03:50Really, nothing happened.
03:51But are there cases?
03:53Yes, there are.
03:54There's no police report.
03:56That's how hard it is to investigate those cases.
04:00We will start,
04:02when we are given a notice that someone is demanding,
04:06the first thing we look for is a police report.
04:08Because at least,
04:09they are the ones who record everything that happens in their communities.
04:14If there's no police report,
04:16where will you start now?
04:18That's how it is.
04:19And the police have been transferred to different places.
04:22There's nothing to talk about.
04:23General Marville is here.
04:25General Torren is here.
04:27They are sure that there's a murder in the blotter of the police every day.
04:32It's a common crime.
04:34Not in the drug war.
04:36In the drug war, the police don't have a blotter.
04:39A lot of them don't have a blotter.
04:41The problem here is,
04:43a lot of them died.
04:46The death certificate says cardiac arrest.
04:49But there's a hole in the head from the bullet.
04:51That's the difference.
04:53So that's what you're saying,
04:55failure of our justice system.
04:58Yes, at that time.
04:59We had a problem at that time,
05:02that we couldn't investigate properly.
05:06Because even the fiscal,
05:08the police were afraid at that time.
05:10At that time,
05:12At this time,
05:13isn't it possible to do the same?
05:14No, it's better now.
05:16Because we're making sure that the fiscal and the police
05:20are together to investigate the crimes.
05:22It's not like before.
05:24Whatever the police say, it should be followed.
05:26If it's better now,
05:28why don't they file cases here in the Philippines?
05:30It's better now.
05:31It's different now.
05:32I can't ask that to those who demanded in the ICC.
05:35We didn't hold those people.
05:38We didn't know them.
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