00:00The attacker and the victim were put on par.
00:03Who were the culpable parties?
00:05UK, Canada, Belgium, Australia, USA.
00:16I think we need to have an order.
00:19There must be fairness.
00:20I agree with you, Dominic.
00:21We need a strong UN.
00:23Don't speak of sovereignty and territorial integrity.
00:27All of us agree.
00:29It's a vital principle.
00:31It's the bedrock of global rules.
00:34After the Second World War,
00:38the longest standing illegal,
00:44I would say, presence,
00:46occupation of a territory by another country
00:49pertains to India.
00:51What we saw in Kashmir.
00:53Now, we went to the UN.
00:55What was an invasion
00:57was made into a dispute.
01:00So, the attacker and the victim were put on par.
01:03Who were the culpable parties?
01:05UK, Canada, Belgium, Australia, USA.
01:12So, pardon me.
01:15I have some question marks on that whole lot.
01:18Now, I can give you many more.
01:21We speak today of political interference.
01:27Political Interference
01:50When the West goes out into other countries,
01:53it's apparently in pursuance of democratic freedoms.
01:56When other countries come into the West,
01:59it seems to have a very malign intention.
02:02So, I think we need to have an order.
02:06There must be fairness.
02:08I agree with you, Dominic.
02:09We need a strong UN.
02:11But a strong UN requires a fair UN.
02:14A strong, you know, a global order
02:17must have some, you know,
02:20some basic consistency of standards.
02:23You know, we have military coups to our East in Myanmar.
02:26They are no-no.
02:28We have them even more regularly to the West.
02:30You know why?
02:31They seem to be okay.
02:33So, I think it's important to audit
02:38the working of the world
02:41for the last eight decades
02:43and be honest about it
02:45and to understand today
02:47that, you know, the balances,
02:51the shareholdings in the world have changed.
02:54We need a different conversation.
02:57We need, frankly,
03:00in that sense, a different order.
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