00:00I am Rodrigo Romuald Duterte.
00:11Foreign lawyers who have experience in the ICC are now talking to Vice President Sara Duterte
00:17to become a lawyer for former President Rodrigo Duterte.
00:21The ICC has now confirmed Nicholas Kaufman as the lead defense counsel
00:26who said that he will need the help of a Filipino lawyer when it comes to the case.
00:31From The Hague, Netherlands, this is Marice O'Malley.
00:36Marice?
00:40Yes, Pia.
00:42I visited former President Rodrigo Duterte,
00:47his lead counsel, Attorney Nicholas Kaufman,
00:50here in the Skaveninga Prison
00:53to discuss the next step.
00:57He arrived here at the detention facility at 2 p.m.
01:02and according to Attorney Kaufman,
01:04they will discuss the nature of the complaint that the former President is facing.
01:10They will also discuss how to fight and win this complaint.
01:20He did not mention any legal steps,
01:23but based on what Attorney Kaufman told us,
01:28one of the basis of their petition to the International Criminal Court
01:35is how to arrest the former President.
01:38When we asked if only foreign lawyers will form the former President's defense team,
01:45this is what Attorney Nicholas Kaufman said.
01:51So it will be an all foreign team?
01:56There is an essential element of any case of the International Criminal Court
02:00that there is a need for foreign lawyers.
02:03So there will definitely be involvement of Filipino lawyers. I need them.
02:14The former President Rodrigo Duterte has a high moral and a good attitude
02:18that he remains in the hospital inside the ICC Detention Center in The Hague, Netherlands.
02:23According to his son, Vice President Sara Duterte, after visiting his father.
02:28He said that he does not do anything outside because he is not yet a mayor,
02:33so he might as well rent a house inside.
02:36He is very friendly with people inside.
02:42According to Vice President Duterte,
02:43an all foreign defense team is being formed by their camp
02:46to defend the former President in the International Criminal Court.
02:50Vice President Sara herself is talking to foreign lawyers who have experience in the ICC.
02:56I am still talking to lawyers.
02:59A lawyer is coming.
03:02I will interview him to join the team.
03:07The British-Israeli lawyer, Attorney Nicholas Kaufman,
03:10who has already been confirmed by the ICC,
03:12was the first to be picked up by the Dutertes as a lead counsel.
03:15He became a lawyer in the ICC of Jean Pierre Bemba,
03:18former Vice President of the Congo,
03:20who was facing war crimes and crimes against humanity.
03:23But he was acquitted in the appeals chamber in 2018.
03:26The Vice President and former Presidential Spokesperson Attorney Harry Roque did not join the defense team.
03:32The Vice President added that it is time for their defense team to be organized.
03:35The former Executive Secretary Salvador Medialdea will be released.
03:39Once the team for the ICC is organized,
03:44Attorney Medialdea will withdraw
03:49because there are only limited slots for lawyers.
03:54We want all the lawyers on board who have ICC experience.
04:02Medialdea was supposed to visit the former President yesterday,
04:05but his condition worsened.
04:07That's why he was brought to the hospital.
04:09His condition is better now, according to Senator Robin Padilla.
04:12In that condition, you have to tell a story.
04:17Because it's like an attack.
04:19You can't understand it.
04:21Is it in your heart?
04:24He has a stent.
04:27So yesterday, his heart is a bit slow.
04:32He was so stubborn yesterday because he wanted to come back.
04:35As an accused in the murder case as a crime against humanity,
04:39the former President Duterte has the right to know what is happening to him.
04:43That's why the Office of the Prosecutor of the ICC will give to the defense team
04:47the testimony of the witnesses and other evidence.
04:50To also afford them the proper opportunity to examine the evidence,
04:56challenge the credibility of the witnesses.
04:59But the protection and support of the ICC to the witnesses is not guaranteed.
05:03It can only be used as an alias on the witness list.
05:06If the security of the witness is not guaranteed,
05:08the ICC Registry is ready to relocate him and his family.
05:13In the case of treason, he can only be charged through videoconferencing.
05:18If the court allows, the voice can also be changed and the witness's face can be hidden.
05:23It can also be closed session.
05:25Or only the judge is in charge of giving the testimony.
05:28Based on what is posted on the ICC website,
05:31if the witness needs to go to the Hague,
05:34the ICC will arrange their visas.
05:37And while in the Hague, the witness will receive an allowance.
05:41There is also an allowance to exchange for no income while witnessing in the ICC.
05:46The court will also worry about their mental health.
05:49I think there is no timeline in the protective measures under the rules.
05:54So it can last for some time even after the trial.
05:59Although we do have to acknowledge that the ICC does not have infinite resources.
06:05These protective measures are for all witnesses, prosecution or defense.
06:11Based on what is written on the ICC website,
06:14the exchange of visas is not affected by protective measures.
06:18Thank you, Pia.
06:19At the moment, Attorney Kaufman is still inside the detention facility.
06:23And we are waiting to hear what he can say
06:27as a detail of their latest conversation with former President Rodrigo Duterte.
06:32And this is the latest from the Hague, Netherlands.
06:36I am Maryse O'Malley.
06:38Your witness is being recorded.
06:41My fellow countrymen,
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