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For the love of the horse, for generations to come.
00:28
Good morning, it is January 18th at 1109 a.m. and welcome to another edition of the TDN
00:33
Writer's Room podcast.
00:34
I'm your host Bill Finley, I'm a correspondent for the TDN and I co-host a radio show on
00:39
Sirius XM every Saturday with Dave Johnson.
00:41
Please tune in.
00:42
Hey guys, happy January 18th, I'm Randy Moss with NBC Sports with Lucy Standing Guard in
00:48
the background.
00:49
Zoe Cabman here with First Racing and Santa Anita and XBTV, Doodles right behind me.
00:55
It's January the 18th and I am flying through dry January guys, I just wanted to throw that
01:01
out there.
01:02
Wait a minute, dry January, I don't follow, fill me in.
01:05
It's raining a lot out there, what do you mean?
01:08
Oh, I see, okay, okay, duh, sorry about that.
01:12
Yes, Santa Anita of course had to cancel on Saturday and on Monday over the weekend.
01:18
Speaking of Santa Anita, I wanted to kick off the story, you know, look, as writers
01:23
we spend a lot of time talking about the bad news in horse racing because frankly there
01:27
is a lot of bad news.
01:28
It's nice to talk about the good news and going back to 2019 was one of the darkest
01:33
periods in racing history.
01:35
Lucy just moved by the way, I mean about an eighth of an inch.
01:38
It's shocking, I know.
01:40
Yeah, shocking.
01:41
Okay, 2019, one of the worst chapters in horse racing history when there was all those breakdowns
01:47
at Santa Anita.
01:48
It was front page news in the LA Times and on the six o'clock news every night.
01:53
I mean, a really awful period and some people were really thinking that the sport was going
01:57
to perhaps be outlawed in California.
02:00
Zoe's employer, the Stronach Group First Racing, they got together and said, we've got to fix
02:04
this darn thing.
02:05
Fast forward about three and a half years later, boy have they fixed it and they provided
02:09
us with some statistics this week.
02:11
In 2022, there was not a single breakdown in a dirt race at Santa Anita during the entire
02:19
year.
02:21
There were 12 fatalities, we want the number to be zero, but they were along the lines
02:25
of other things, some sudden deaths, there were horses in training.
02:28
In the afternoon, racing on the dirt, no fatalities and that comes on the heels of a Del Mar year
02:34
where at both meets, zero fatalities during racing as well.
02:39
Randy, certainly welcome good news and you've got to give the Stronach Group tremendous
02:44
amount of credit.
02:46
It looks like they've gone from one extreme to the other.
02:48
Well, they deserve a tremendous amount of credit.
02:50
I don't think, given the stature of the animal rights lobby nowadays in the 21st century,
02:58
I don't think it's a sensationalistic take to say that the very existence of Santa Anita
03:05
might have been in question unless they turned things around and it took a group effort.
03:10
It took the racetrack, it took the veterinarians, it took the horsemen to all collaborate and
03:16
try to get this thing turned around.
03:19
Unfortunately, I don't think you're going to get nearly as much news coverage on the
03:26
TV and in the newspapers about what Santa Anita has done positively since then as you've
03:32
got in terms of negative coverage back in 2019, but that's just the nature of the news
03:36
cycles and the nature of the beast.
03:39
But yes, I agree that they deserve a tremendous amount of credit for getting a handle on this.
03:45
Zoe, you're right there, your boots on the ground.
03:48
What is going right?
03:49
I mean, everything is going right.
03:51
Kudos to the Stronach Group, First Racing and the horsemen because there are a lot of
03:57
old school horsemen out here that didn't take lightly to the veterinary checks that went
04:02
on.
04:03
But at the end of the day, you have to acquiesce for horse racing to move forward in California.
04:08
There's a vegan restaurant on every corner.
04:11
This is a different country we're living in, in Southern California.
04:15
California on a whole is completely different.
04:18
I always feel like we're on an island out here.
04:21
And as far as horse racing, we are.
04:24
And the fact that we had to acquiesce just a little bit to Peter, a lot of people were
04:28
saying, well, why are you bending over to placate those guys?
04:33
Well, this is the world that we live in, and we were in very, very much danger of shutting
04:40
down.
04:41
So I think there were, let me see, I wrote it down, 5,381 veterinary exams performed
04:48
on 4,673 horses last year in California.
04:55
And it just goes to show the scrutiny these horses are under, and some of them pass and
04:59
some of them don't.
05:01
It's down to the horsemen and the vets on a whole.
05:04
And of course, we have the best track maintenance here in Southern California as well, to just
05:09
get this thing going and it's going in the right direction.
05:12
It's not perfect.
05:14
I'm not sure it could ever be perfect when you're dealing with four-legged animals, but
05:19
it's certainly on the right track.
05:21
Yeah.
05:22
And one of the things I learned from writing this story was how successful these veterinary
05:27
checks have been.
05:29
And basically, to put it into layman's language, they basically put all these horses under
05:35
a microscope, and they're not going to let anything slip through the cracks.
05:39
But it makes me wonder about racing as a whole.
05:42
And I don't have the numbers in front of me, but when the Jockey Club puts out its numbers
05:46
at the end of the year, end of the fiscal year, the amount of breakdowns is going down,
05:51
but it's not going down as dramatically as it has, or anywhere near as dramatically as
05:55
it has at Santa Anita, which leads me to say, why isn't everybody doing what they're
06:02
doing at Santa Anita?
06:03
I know it may not be that practical for other tracks.
06:06
I'm sure it's very costly, it's very time consuming, and maybe a lesser track just doesn't
06:12
have the manpower to do something like this.
06:15
But my goodness, if this is working as well as it is at Santa Anita to have these veterinary
06:19
checks, it should be done everywhere.
06:22
We shouldn't just be talking about Santa Anita having no breakdowns.
06:25
We should be talking about horse racing having as close to no breakdowns as we can possibly
06:29
get.
06:30
Yeah, well, unfortunately, it's not just the case in horse racing, it's the case with every
06:34
other sport in life in general.
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A lot of times these draconian measures aren't taken, unless something's put under a microscope
06:42
and a racetrack is getting, you know, tremendous negative publicity.
06:45
Arlington Park had a similar situation way back when, and it led to them switching from
06:49
a dirt surface to a synthetic surface.
06:52
It's been a whole sea change out in Southern California.
06:55
When you think back to what happened in 2019, it wasn't just the lack of veterinary oversight,
07:01
it wasn't just trainers perhaps pushing the envelope a little too much.
07:06
If you remember, there was a pretty strong weather component to that in 2019, a very
07:11
rainy season.
07:13
The track had to be compacted to get the water off of it over and over and over.
07:18
And now look what happened this past weekend, very rainy weekend and Santa Anita just said,
07:23
we're going to cancel Saturday's racing car.
07:26
You would never have seen that, I don't think, back in 2019.
07:29
So a lot of things have changed.
07:31
And there's a statute that's been put forward that if the track is sealed, they have to
07:36
have a meeting with the Jockeys Guild.
07:38
There are like four or five different entities that have to meet together and decide whether
07:43
racing is safe to go ahead.
07:45
And I think they're just basically going on the side of caution, which is a very good
07:50
thing.
07:51
And to echo your point about Arlington, is it me?
07:53
I was at Arlington during that terrible rash breakdowns I was here.
07:58
I've seen firsthand, Peter camped out at Arlington Park, Peter camped out at Santa Anita, Greyhound
08:06
racing is gone in Florida.
08:09
So I mean, these are real things that go on unless you've seen it firsthand.
08:13
I mean, there were some days it was hard to even drive in the gates at Santa Anita
08:16
because they were picketing outside.
08:19
This is real, absolutely real, the things that are going on.
08:23
And, you know, yes, it's not sounded out in the news right now.
08:27
But as far as I'm concerned, no news is good news.
08:30
Right.
08:31
And, you know, everybody in horse racing loves to hate Peter.
08:33
And that's fine.
08:34
They give you a lot of reasons to dislike them.
08:38
And people, I'm sure, were very unhappy with the news coverage.
08:41
Zoe, you were there.
08:43
You know, from a distance, I wouldn't get the same feel that you did.
08:47
But Aiden Butler, the CEO of First Racing, told me about, you know, the helicopter, you
08:51
know, the buzz of the helicopters overhead.
08:54
But had that not happened, I don't think we'd be where we are today.
08:58
And look, you don't like it.
09:00
You don't want to ever come.
09:02
And you know, Peter is public enemy number one for a lot of people in horse racing.
09:06
But you know, if this might have happened in 1963, it wouldn't have been a big deal.
09:11
Nobody would have paid any attention to it and nothing would have been fixed.
09:15
I'm not saying Santa Anita wouldn't have done the right thing anyways.
09:18
But the fact that their backs were pushed against the wall by PETA and by the news media
09:24
obviously made it, you know, forced the issue quite some bit.
09:28
So from an ugly situation and what a lot of people, I'm sure, consider very unfair treatment,
09:35
some good definitely came from that.
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I think a big round of applause needs to go out to Delmar as well, who has followed suit
09:43
with all the protocols in place at Santa Anita.
09:46
Obviously Santa Anita runs for seven months of the year, just about, and Delmar runs for
09:51
almost three.
09:52
So there's a little bit of difference there, but the whole of California has really banded
09:58
together.
09:59
Very good.
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