🚨 DESAPARICIÓN DE LIAN: LA FISCALÍA INVESTIGA TODOS LOS CELULARES INCAUTADOS

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La búsqueda de Lian, desaparecido en la provincia de Córdoba, continúa sin resultados positivos tras un rastrillaje de 10 kilómetros. La fiscal Betina Kropi lidera una investigación compleja que incluye el análisis de dispositivos móviles y múltiples allanamientos en Córdoba y otras regiones del país. A pesar del hermetismo judicial para proteger las líneas investigativas, se han secuestrado vehículos y celulares, y se han tomado declaraciones a vecinos locales. La alerta Sofía fue activada 15 horas después del incidente, generando críticas por la demora. Las autoridades trabajan intensamente para esclarecer el caso.

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00:00Attention, because this 10-kilometer trail we can confirm, in principle, that it has given negative.

00:08No trace of the IAN has been found in one of the many that will be carried out, but in this one, 10 kilometers,

00:15which started from the point where we are exactly standing now with Diego Traferi,

00:20and traveled upstream and downstream, 10 kilometers, passing through an island,

00:25and going through all kinds of dirt, mud, trunks, branches, weeds,

00:34and places where something could have stopped, something would have floated here because of this.

00:41Well, bad news.

00:42Well, we have to confirm that nothing has been found, Facu, exactly.

00:45Bad news because there was a good expectation.

00:47Bad or good.

00:48In that search, not bad and good, of course, you are right.

00:50Bad and good. What reading do you make of this?

00:53I think that apart from looking for the body, and the minor,

00:59they should have already opened up, it is a fight that we had with the Loan case, for example,

01:03we were working with a software that we developed, and intercrossing communication antennas.

01:08There is a big problem that we have that the DAFICI does not,

01:12first, that the federal justice does not interfere immediately,

01:16after we asked for the offices, we tracked all the antennas that had been in the area,

01:21all the places that had been located, we made the triangle,

01:24all the places that had been impacted in that area and that had passed.

01:27We asked them to go to the office to inform who they are,

01:30and these people to call them to testify.

01:32Now, it never progressed with that.

01:34Well, there you give us a foot.

01:36And the truth is that you could also make an intercrossing between people.

01:40Of course, there you give us a foot because today the Attorney General, Betina Kropi, spoke.

01:44If you agree, we share what she said.

01:46Let's see.

01:48Can you clarify about the presence of the alleged bailiff who came to the house and was there those days?

01:56Where did he come from? What did he do? Where did he go? Is he under investigation?

02:01Look, everything is under investigation. Everything is under investigation.

02:04I'm not going to talk about what we kidnapped, where we kidnapped him,

02:09who we interviewed, who are the suspects.

02:15You have to be very cautious and very careful at this time.

02:18This is a very complex investigation.

02:20And any data that I could say about a concrete measure of evidence,

02:24like the one you are pointing out to me,

02:26or any other investigative line, hypothesis of a larger or smaller entity,

02:32the investigation is at risk.

02:34And at this time, I understand the concern of the community.

02:37I understand the need for information.

02:40But there is a limit that is precisely that the investigative lines in which it is being worked do not interfere.

02:46There are messages that arouse suspicion.

02:50I'm not asking you to clarify your content or who they are.

02:53But there are messages that established an investigative line that aroused some kind of uncertainty in the court.

03:00All the messages that are on cell phones are being released.

03:03All the messages.

03:05Not only the audio messages, the WhatsApp messages, the calls,

03:10the antennas used in the place by the cell phones,

03:14the content and the provisional value of all those results cannot be given.

03:20In other words, they are being released.

03:22These do have absolute tranquility,

03:24that all the kidnapped devices are being released, of course.

03:28Well, what you were saying, the subject of cell phones is being investigated.

03:32You didn't talk about intercrossing calls.

03:34You talked about cell phone content.

03:36Currently, internationally, we are going towards that.

03:39Not only the fact of getting the data from the cell phone,

03:43that they use an Israeli software, etc.

03:45There is another software that allows you to cross all the calls.

03:49But the ideal is what they do in the United States or Canada.

03:53You are lost, or you call and you have a key word, or you are suicidal.

03:58They triangulate you, they pick up the phone right away,

04:01they call the telephone company and say,

04:03tell me where this cell phone is.

04:05And they locate you by fine and coarse geolocation.

04:08Coarse geolocation is in which antenna you impacted.

04:11Fine geolocation is at what distance you are from the antenna,

04:14how long did the signal take to arrive,

04:16and with what intensity.

04:18And based on a formula, we calculate where you are more or less,

04:21with a certain accuracy.

04:22Between 5 and 50 meters.

04:24And apart, in the case, for example, of Logan,

04:27what I did was look for all those who were near those antennas,

04:30all the close ones.

04:31And then, those who were suspicious,

04:33I followed them for three days where they were.

04:35Because from there it gives me indications too.

04:37Of course, here there is so much hermeticism,

04:39that it is not known if that work is being done.

04:41Let's go to Cristian Balbo, let's get the signal back.

04:43Cris, you're on air, let's go.

04:47It is important to emphasize, and it still continues with the tracking,

04:50there are 4,000 meters around which they are working.

04:53But it is important to emphasize what the prosecutor said on the day.

04:56First, there are no detainees.

04:58Four days after the disappearance of Elian, there are no detainees.

05:02Second, for the moment, for the moment,

05:05there are no indications that generate the idea

05:09that the federal justice system has to intervene.

05:11For now, for the moment.

05:13And third, data provided by the prosecutor,

05:15is that they do not rule out the idea that Elian was thrown into the river.

05:19And that's why Le Pueblas is on the banks of what is the margin of the Third River,

05:25because they are still working in that place,

05:27but we suppose that in principle it could also be negative.

05:30Specific data.

05:3115 raids.

05:32And we asked the prosecutor today,

05:34we asked her, Marina Facundo,

05:36only raids here in the province of Córdoba,

05:39or also in other regions, in other provinces?

05:42And the answer was, also in other places.

05:44And we presume that those other places have been in the province of Jujuy.

05:4915 raids.

05:5025 cell phones kidnapped.

05:52Do you know who?

05:53Let's walk, look.

05:54Not only from Elian's family,

05:56but also from all the neighbors who live here,

05:59in this brick cutout.

06:01That is, all these neighbors have been kidnapped by cell phones.

06:04And even, this is a judicialized area.

06:07That's why they want us to only advance on a perimeter,

06:11which, notice that everything is taped,

06:13because they don't want the evidence to be contaminated.

06:15For example, the neighbors of this property have been kidnapped by mobile devices.

06:19The same as those who are here about 300 meters away.

06:23And so on.

06:2430 testimonial statements.

06:26From who?

06:27From all these neighbors.

06:28Most of the testimonial statements are from members of the Bolivian community.

06:326 vehicles kidnapped.

06:346 vehicles.

06:35The last one today.

06:36There was talk of 3 white trucks.

06:38There was also talk of a Volkswagen Suran,

06:41gray in color.

06:42Presumably it would also have been kidnapped.

06:44I have a query about the vehicles.

06:46Yesterday the hypothesis was very firm, I mean,

06:50that they were being searched, or that the search was imminent.

06:53Did that stay in something?

06:55Was it known if that search was made on the vehicles?

06:57Maria, let's go back a little.

06:59Was it known who they kidnapped?

07:01Where?

07:02How?

07:03There was talk of an image.

07:05Tremendous vehicles.

07:07Where are they going to be?

07:09South of Ballesteros.

07:10What is this hermeticism?

07:12Exactly.

07:13There are 2 Japanese trucks, 2 Toyota trucks and a Amarok.

07:16All 3 are white.

07:18There is a lot of attention on a Toyota with black polarized viruses.

07:21But the truth is that today we also asked the prosecutor,

07:24because they are working with a hermeticism,

07:27where they talk about preventing the area from being contaminated.

07:31That's why they allow us to work in this place.

07:33And on the other hand, we also asked why they don't allow us to interview the neighbors.

07:36For example, we can't interview the neighbor of that house.

07:38He provided a testimonial statement, but the press cannot access it.

07:41And they say, to avoid any kind of hindrance.

07:43Maybe these testimonies can bring us closer to the truth,

07:46and we are in a crucial stage.

07:47If you interview them, maybe what they provide you after their testimonial

07:51can hinder one of our lines of investigation.

07:54In this way, they are justifying the prosecution

07:56because they are so hermetic in terms of investigation.

08:00For example, we don't know where the 6 vehicles are kidnapped.

08:02We didn't have access, we couldn't see how they are carrying out the investigations.

08:06There are many restrictions in this case.

08:08They don't want to make any mistakes.

08:10However, we also asked the prosecutor.

08:12Let's see, the Sofia alert was given 24 hours later.

08:15The prosecutor corrects me.

08:16It wasn't 24 hours later, Valvo, it was 15 hours later.

08:19However, 15 hours later, that's a long time.

08:21There is a protocol, there is a bureaucratic issue, and so on.

08:23But in 15 hours, since they could have taken this minor,

08:27if we are talking about an abduction,

08:28on this rural road,

08:30he could have ended up in any other province,

08:32and even outside the country.

08:34They explained that these 15 hours have to do with

08:36because to apply this protocol and the Sofia alert,

08:38there is a whole issue of gear that has to be given

08:41for the federal forces to intervene effectively.

08:44We also asked them,

08:45what kind of controls have been made in the highways,

08:48for example, Rosario-Córdoba,

08:49in the routes here in the province of Córdoba,

08:51and they said, well, in that sense, it has also been worked on,

08:54but there is a real issue.

08:56You can't make absolute control

08:58in all the routes and highways of the country

09:01to be able to give with the minor.

09:03So, there are some gray areas

09:05regarding how you can work to give with a minor

09:08when a Sofia alert is applied.

09:10But on the other hand, they want to work this way.

09:12They want to work this way.

09:30Thank you, Cristian, for the coverage.

09:31Cristian, complete the coverage.

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