00:00At the moment, we know the basis of the failure that condemned Cositorto.
00:06Cecilia Conesa is working in Goya. Good morning 24, Cecilia, how are you?
00:12Very good morning to the whole team. Yes, that's right.
00:15We are in the Court of Justice in Corrientes, in the Judiciary.
00:20At this moment, Leonardo Cositorto and the others are accused of fraud and illicit association,
00:27waiting for the verdict, waiting for the sentence that will be known in minutes.
00:31At 12.15 the sentence will be known, which will be received by the accused,
00:37including Leonardo Cositorto, the main accused by the SOE generation
00:42of fraud to more than 90 people here in the town of Goya, Corrientes.
00:46Well, let's remember that the condemnatory failure was already known.
00:50Now what remains to be known are the foundations, as usually happens, Cecilia.
00:56Yes, yes, yes, that's right. The foundations and the number of years of the sentence will be known.
01:02Last week it was known that they were guilty of fraud and illicit association.
01:08Cositorto looks very calm, doesn't he?
01:11I also heard it in some other media, as well as very ...
01:15as if he did not receive news that he was condemned, right?
01:21No, that's right, he's very calm, he hasn't received any news yet.
01:26Although some media have already published that the sentence is 16 years,
01:32in this case it has not yet been officially known here,
01:36from the judicial power of the province of Corrientes, of the town of Goya,
01:40it has not yet been known, but some media have already published it,
01:43and it is the rumor that there are 16 years of sentence.
01:47Last week he was very nervous, remember that he was screaming at the judge,
01:52he was handcuffed, in fact, they took him out.
01:55It strikes me that you are very close to Cositorto there, Cecilia, right?
01:58You are right next to him, I don't want to get you in trouble.
02:02Yes, we can talk to him.
02:04It's all yours.
02:05No, but we can talk to him if you want.
02:06Oh, you can't? You can't.
02:08Yes, yes, yes, we can talk, but it's two minutes.
02:11Leonardo, is Luis there?
02:14No.
02:15Luis.
02:16Mr. Cositorto, how are you? What expectations do you have of Pena?
02:20It's true that he changed, he changed ...
02:22He changed channel.
02:24Luis, you changed channel now, at least you are on channel 24, a little better, how are you?
02:28Well, I am very comfortable in all the places where I work.
02:31I assume that a little more comfortable than you, who is waiting for the sentence, right?
02:37Yes, happy that this show ends, imagine 40 months of attack,
02:4245 months in prison, in authoritarian conditions,
02:45and let's hope it's over so we can appeal and then redefine, right?
02:49Casation and Supreme Court.
02:51Obviously he will resort to ...
02:53They talk about 16 years, it would seem as if we had killed people, I don't know.
02:57If someone who put money in the organization is watching it and could not recover it,
03:04does he feel sorry, does he want to tell you something?
03:08No, the only thing I want is, at least let me work,
03:12or at least let me have a cell phone with a camera,
03:15because there are things that are biometric and have not let us pay.
03:18And here we signed a contract and they did not let us pay.
03:21170,000 dollars, Luis, let's not talk about millionaire scams.
03:24In Buenos Aires, 400,000, sorry, 414,000 dollars.
03:28And Argentine time, they put the cover that Cositorto has to pay 400 million dollars.
03:33And then the media raises 400 million dollars, they copy and paste.
03:37It's too ordinary.
03:39And we are talking about a million and a half dollars,
03:42which in any case the Fiscal Company has retained in the tax office.
03:46They could have already paid people, not to mention 37 cars, properties that were taken.
03:52So I don't understand what the problem is.
03:54I want to pay people, obviously I want to pay them.
03:57And the people who know me know very well.
03:59In fact, there are a lot of people who talk to me and support me.
04:02Only the people who speak sometimes are hit and we understand it.
04:06But there are a lot of people, 95,000 people, who did not make any complaint.
04:097,350 worldwide.
04:12And notice, Luis, that they come to condemn us for illicit association in Goya,
04:16a place where I did not open, I did not sign a single document,
04:19about 72 cities worldwide.
04:21They hit us here with 60,000 inhabitants.
04:23Very striking that they put it with their finger like that.
04:26I return to the same question.
04:28Are you sorry for doing what you did?
04:32It is that you are taking me as if I had done something bad.
04:36Well, no, justice condemned him.
04:38It is not my opinion.
04:39Justice condemned him.
04:40Yes, but ...
04:41Yes, well, and what is it?
04:42The same thing that tomorrow they accuse you that you did some situation, some barbarity,
04:46and you didn't do it.
04:47What are you going to say?
04:48I am sorry to have done something, I don't know, to a girl.
04:50No, no.
04:51What do you mean sorry?
04:52Who did I get together with?
04:54Let's see, I trust accountants, I trust lawyers,
04:56I trust two advisors from Kichilof,
04:59yes, with Maxi Mitrov and Julieta Ciutti.
05:02They charged me a lot of money for the Fideicomiso.
05:05They approved it.
05:06We were with contracts for three years.
05:08Why does the establishment attack us?
05:11Why does the Cuban status of Argentina attack us?
05:13It has no basis.
05:15You say that the failure of justice, which we will know now, 12-15,
05:19was foreseen in the foundations of a conspiracy of all justice against you.
05:23Yes, it has to be all civil and commercial.
05:25Of course.
05:26Three years ago, they made me a movie,
05:28which is a prevarication bigger than a house,
05:30using places of the state, hiring people,
05:33using the funds of the company.
05:36You can't follow the Fiscal Company.
05:38You can't follow it.
05:39Well, Luis, the judges are coming.
05:42Wait for me to get my return and then we'll leave.
05:44Excuse me, Luis, they asked us to withdraw.
05:47No, Cecilia is fine.
05:48Well, they asked us to withdraw,
05:50to leave because the judges are going to come in
05:53and, well, the sentence will be known.
05:55As you know, it would apparently be 16 years.
05:58I can't talk anymore.
05:59They ask us to be silent in the room.
06:02So, well, I'm going to leave you with the opening of the panel.
06:05Yes, let's see.
06:06I don't know what the format will be,
06:08because there are two options.
06:10Either to quickly know the sentence
06:12or to first read all the foundations.
06:14I don't know how this court will play.
06:17If they are all the foundations, it will be very long.
06:20Let's see if we stay.
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