Why didn't nationalist issues arise during PTI's government?

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00:00Mr. Abhishek, you tell us, what dangerous games are you playing?

00:04There is a serious need in KP, big operations are happening every day.

00:09That day I saw that a young, handsome lieutenant is being martyred.

00:13Young men are being martyred. Everything is happening.

00:16Your politics is not ending, dear Ismail Khan, who is your Chief Minister.

00:21You will now play another game with the Nationalists.

00:24Didn't you remember the Nationalists before?

00:26They were beating their problems for six months.

00:29When it comes to your politics, they say you might be ready to sleep with the devil also.

00:34This game that you are playing with the Nationalists in Balochistan.

00:38I will not say Nationalists, I will say separatists.

00:41Baloch separatists, Sindh separatists.

00:44If you ignore all these things with narrow political gains,

00:49then you will give more importance to those statements,

00:53where the state thinks that you can do anything for political interests.

00:57I seek refuge with Allah from the accursed Satan.

00:59First of all, I appreciate that you mentioned Ali Amin,

01:03where Senator Afnan said that at least now the state acknowledges that the bullet was fired.

01:08Now see where the detainment is. Who said the bullet was fired?

01:11I didn't say that.

01:12No, I didn't say that.

01:13No, I didn't say that.

01:14Who said the bullet was fired?

01:15Who said the bullet was fired?

01:16Who said the bullet was fired?

01:17No, we brought the 14 dead bodies in front of us.

01:19Shahfiq Lund, Malik Idrees of Dera Ghazi Khan are present in front of us.

01:22The statements of their families, their bullets, their steps.

01:26So that is still there.

01:27Secondly, when we were young in the 90s,

01:30we were told that Altaf Hussain is a bad man.

01:33And we all thought that he is going against the big state.

01:36Malik Sahib, the heart of the state is very big.

01:38If someone in the state is doing something like this,

01:41they have to listen to it.

01:42When Maharang Baloch came here,

01:44I used to think what this woman is doing.

01:46Ultimately, when I heard her speech,

01:48to which she was saying,

01:49if you can determine whether a person is dead or alive,

01:54then at least we will have patience.

01:55You just have to listen to what they have to say.

01:58So why didn't you listen to them when you were in the government for 4 years?

02:05Then why didn't you hear the voices of Balochistan?

02:07In your opinion, how did the peace come in Balochistan at that time?

02:11We were talking.

02:12Khan Sahib was the first person who said,

02:14you need to engage them.

02:15We are the government who said that there can be no operation in KP.

02:19You need to talk to the people.

02:21Who told you to talk to the Taliban?

02:23It was not easy to talk to them.

02:24Because all your border districts are Pashtun.

02:26You are putting all the blame on yourself.

02:27You have brought it and resettled it.

02:28You are putting the blame on yourself.

02:29We have settled it.

02:30So the issue is,

02:31wasn't the state involved at that time?

02:34Was it asked from us?

02:35The big influx that was coming,

02:37a small government of KPK was deciding.

02:39All the stakeholders were present.

02:41When you take credit,

02:43When you take credit,

02:44When you take credit,

02:47then you have to bear the burden.

02:48On one hand you say,

02:49we talked,

02:50we negotiated everything.

02:52When it comes to the fallout,

02:53you say,

02:54we didn't do it,

02:55the intelligence agency did it.

02:56There is no such issue.

02:57We are doing it.

02:58When did I say that?

02:59We said,

03:00we want you to engage.

03:01Even then you were engaging.

03:02Even today you are telling us to engage.

03:03You said,

03:04separatists from Sindh.

03:05The biggest issue in Pakistan is that

03:07everyone hates Punjab.

03:09Do you remember?

03:10Do you remember?

03:11There were two people.

03:12No, no.

03:13I will remind you of two names.

03:14Ali Wazir was there.

03:15Mohsin Dawar was there.

03:16Yes.

03:17What did you do in your time?

03:19How much did you fight?

03:21No, no.

03:22Leave the what aboutism.

03:24What did you do with those two?

03:26If you had so many dialogues,

03:28and if you were taking decisions,

03:29and you were doing it,

03:30what did you do with those two?

03:32In our government,

03:33those two people definitely came as MNAs.

03:35In your opinion,

03:36if there were so many opponents,

03:37and the system was with us,

03:38could those two MNAs have come?

03:39What did you do with them?

03:40What did you do?

03:41I tell people even today,

03:42that Ali Wazir's production order

03:43should have been issued.

03:44It should have been issued even then.

03:46Those who are not issuing

03:47the production order for Ijaz-14 today,

03:48they are doing the same thing.

03:49They were saying the same thing to us.

03:50When they are in the opposition,

03:51they say very good things.

03:52When they are in the government,

03:53they also bring pekka,

03:54they also put ragda,

03:55they leave it.

03:56I am asking you about the government.

03:58I will make an argument.

04:00Right now,

04:01hatred against Punjab is increasing.

04:03Everywhere,

04:04in Balochistan,

04:05Sindh and KP.

04:06Believe me,

04:07what happened with KP in the last two years,

04:09racial profiling in Islamabad,

04:11hatred is increasing.

04:12Similarly,

04:13the bus incident in Balochistan,

04:14four days ago,

04:15was removed.

04:16It is wrong.

04:17Everything is wrong.

04:18But somewhere,

04:19you have to address it.

04:20How will you address it?

04:21There are only two ways.

04:22Either you will engage,

04:23or you will do the operation.

04:24For the operation,

04:25right now,

04:26the situation in Balochistan,

04:27if it is that easy,

04:28then the provincial government

04:29is with you.

04:30We can go against you,

04:31we can go against you,

04:32we can go against you,

04:33we can go against you,

04:34we can go against you,

04:35we can go against you,

04:36we can go against you,

04:37we can go against you,

04:38we can go against you,

04:39we can go against you,

04:40we can go against you,

04:41we can go against you,

04:42we can go against you,

04:43we can go against you,

04:44we can go against you,

04:45we can go against you,

04:46we can go against you,

04:47we can go against you.

04:48Attract our charges.

04:49I can't see.

04:50The local warlords

04:51of Unntal Annals,

04:52local population,

04:53should become sensitive

04:54towards the issue.

04:55The problem is

04:56that Islamabad has no credit.

04:57No one is listening to them.

04:58What our army is

04:59waiting for,

05:00is rhetoric.

05:01The world should be

05:02sold and look at

05:03what is happening

05:04with us.

05:05It is on the belt

05:06that Afghanistan is

05:07united with.

05:08When the world

05:09has the ucresy.

05:10But won't the people

05:11sitting in Islamabad

05:12as the ones here

05:13can they garner their

05:14own respect?

05:15I remember when Quram started and we started programming on it, we used to say that there is sectarianism and terrorism in it.

05:23Your KPK government used to say, no, no, no, it's just a fight for land in two tribes.

05:27Now the same Ali Ibn Ghadapur says, yes, this is a 103-year-old fight.

05:31It's not just this, there is sectarianism in it, there is international funding and financing in it.

05:37They've jumped at it.

05:38Whatever the government is, whether it's yours or theirs, it seems like someone has raised a kalma that no, we don't want to speak the truth.

05:43Initially, when the issue of Quram came up, we said that it was a sensitive issue.

05:49But to talk about it publicly on national TV was a bit sensitive.

05:53So maybe that's why the government...

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