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Un ni帽o de tres a帽os desapareci贸 misteriosamente en C贸rdoba, Argentina, mientras jugaba con el celular de su madre. La b煤squeda se intensifica con la participaci贸n del Ej茅rcito, Gendarmer铆a y la polic铆a local. Testigos mencionan una camioneta sospechosa que podr铆a estar involucrada en el caso. A pesar del despliegue de recursos, incluyendo drones y perros rastreadores, a煤n no hay pistas concretas sobre el paradero del menor.
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00:00Dogs did not leave the house and they went up against the frames.
00:05Let's remember data to give. The child was not with his brothers.
00:09The child was inside the room where his parents were playing with the cell phone of the mother.
00:16When the father wakes up, he goes out and starts collecting bricks as if nothing.
00:22When the mother wakes up, the father asks her what happened to the child.
00:28The child says no, no, I have not seen it.
00:30She drew attention because he did not come with her right away.
00:33And there he starts looking for it.
00:35What she says is that he was lying in a bed next to where they slept, playing with the cell phone.
00:42They fall asleep. When they wake up, he was no longer there.
00:45They start looking for him, he was not there.
00:47They see the shirt on top of the bed.
00:49They go out in dismay to look for the mother.
00:52He thinks he was with a York.
00:54When they come back, they find him there, as if he also took it.
00:58Dogs are true.
01:00Those who look for traces with life, get up in the frame of the door of the bedroom of the house where they were lying,
01:10which Diego Trafferi showed them today.
01:12And they don't get out of there, they go crazy there.
01:15Well, what can identify that?
01:17That they may have raised it in that place and they may have obviously loaded it into a truck.
01:23Because later, in everything the dogs looked for, they did not find any positive trace of Liam's life.
01:30Those who look for RH did not find any trace of Liam either.
01:34RH, let's go clean for all those who are not soaked with the subject.
01:40This is done like this, and it is strong, but there are dogs looking for live boys,
01:45and there are dogs looking for a corpse.
01:49This is like this, they did not detect traces either.
01:51Which is important for what you added, Ceci, that he did not leave there.
01:55Why? Because sometimes the dog does not move from a house and it is not that they raised it and took it,
01:59but in another case they could have killed him and buried him in that same terrain.
02:05We have to think of a terrain that has to be excavated.
02:10And we have to think of experts who would have to be looking for removed areas,
02:15because really the police arrive quickly from the complaint.
02:19If the complaint is made at 5.30, the police are there.
02:23Ale, what you have there is a scenario of subtraction, not of hiding in the place.
02:31In principle, yes, where the military collective is, is where the truck loses the trace and they do not find it and do not see it.
02:38From there, the neighbors say that they turn around, as I am going to try to turn around now.
02:45I'm going to run away from the road and I'm going to make the road as this truck would have done.
02:53The truck starts, turns around and is stopped for a few minutes.
02:59Apparently it loads something or not.
03:02And it makes this road that we have just made of arrival but of departure, so that you can observe.
03:08In a more hurried way.
03:10In a truck here you can get to walk between 40 and 60 kilometers with peace of mind.
03:16In a car I can get to walk at 40, with a truck I can get to walk at 60.
03:20This is the exit street.
03:23Very hard ground, there is no trace, except that it may have climbed, but if not, there is no trace.
03:30Alex, I'm sorry, I'm going to ask you a question.
03:33Is there another witness who talks about this truck or is it just one?
03:37And is it possible that you, who are there, have not heard or seen it in some way?
03:42There are three witnesses who speak.
03:44I interviewed two, I interviewed two, I blew two, and there is a third who did not want to speak,
03:50which is the house that is here next to the helicopter, who also saw him leave and enter the truck.
03:56The closest neighbor, the first interviewee, who is one of the most important,
04:00is the one who says that he was stopped for a few minutes in that place,
04:04and that he does not see it stopped because there is the pile of bricks.
04:10And do these trucks usually appear in the place?
04:15No, no, that's what this neighbor says.
04:18And no one caught his attention?
04:20Of course.
04:21But no one came close to see who it was?
04:23No, that's what they say.
04:24No one came close to see who it was?
04:26That's what the guy we interviewed just said.
04:28The guy we interviewed just said that, in general, this Bolivian community,
04:33what this neighbor, Brian, just said,
04:37we interviewed that this Bolivian community sees you pass by with the car,
04:41enter and exit, it may be strange or not, but they don't talk to you, they practically don't measure you.
04:45Of course, that is, they let them pass.
04:47But when they were asked if they found it strange, they said yes.
04:50I think Brian's testimony, the neighbor you interviewed, is very important.
04:54Let's see, they themselves sometimes go shopping and stand still for a long time
04:59and none of the community comes close to ask them.
05:01They don't attend to the customers.
05:02They don't attend to them.
05:03That's what they suggest, how they are going to react quickly in the presence of a stranger.
05:07That's what they suggest.
05:08Likewise, Ale, we also have a scenario where there is a firm hypothesis in terms of the investigation,
05:15in terms of, let's follow this path.
05:17It is someone who approaches a truck, steals the child and takes him away.
05:22This is what you are showing us.
05:24A truck that arrives, stops, could have picked up the boy
05:28and could have escaped along the path you are showing us.
05:35Especially because apparently one or several security cameras notice that.
05:40Because the police manage to see the patent plate of this truck
05:44that matches the time of the story of the neighbors and the time of Liam's disappearance
05:51and they go and find that home.
05:54There they find three trucks of similar characteristics, three cars, 12 cell phones
06:00and apparently a tablet or notebook that was kidnapped from that house.
06:04What I want to clear up, and I think it is important,
06:08is that we are 48 hours away from the disappearance of the child.
06:11It is not common that there is so little certainty.
06:14What am I going with this?
06:15We have the Lohan record and perhaps we naturalize this of not having any concrete clue,
06:21but at 48 hours those cameras should already be examined.
06:25It seems to me that you just showed, Ale,
06:27because what other more important thing than reviewing the cameras and that they appear?
06:32Let's think that sometimes you find 48-hour images that are without precision.
06:38Here we have a schedule, we have a truck and we have a place where there is no traffic,
06:43it is not Avenue 9 de Julio.
06:45A car must pass every now and then, more at that time and on a Saturday.
06:50I say, what about that investigation?
06:52What do you think, Ale, that they have this and it is hermetic
06:55or that the investigation is indeed a bit slow?
06:59No, no, without a doubt that they have an image of the truck,
07:02for that matter, no.
07:04If not, they would never have given with the flat home.
07:06Perfect.
07:07We know that in some of the security cameras that we toured,
07:10they have been able to see the patent plate of the truck,
07:12with that patent plate they see the title, with the title they find the house.
07:15Perfect. So there is no doubt, we already know.
07:18The truck can be stolen?
07:20Yes.
07:21There is no complaint of theft?
07:22That is also a question.
07:23The owner can be another, there is no complaint of sale?
07:26The owner said he sold it?
07:28Precisely, in summary, we do not have that answer from the owner of the house.
07:32So there is a suspect for the investigators who is linked to that truck,
07:36that has to give explanations that we do not know yet,
07:39because there is hermeticism.
07:41I add a question of what you have seen.
07:44I know that the information still does not flow,
07:47the sources we are talking about tell us, we are working, they do not answer.
07:51But how many cell phone antennas are there in that area, Ale?
07:55Because you worked a lot on the Logan case,
07:58and there was a problem that was, you are on the antenna
08:01and you can be appearing with your phone, an antenna,
08:04and actually be at 600 meters, 1 kilometer,
08:08because it is the same antenna for a large area.
08:11There, in the place where you are working, there are different antennas,
08:15will information arise from this?
08:17If I go to the center of the town,
08:23I have a very close antenna that can give me the proximity with precision.
08:27Yes.
08:28In this route you had an antenna that can give you a radio
08:32summarized with a precision of more or less 1.2 kilometers.
08:38It's a lot.
08:40Yes, let's also remember that in the Logan case,
08:43this technical detail that Rolando is telling,
08:46prompted a lot of raids in nearby towns on July 9.
08:51Yes, yes.
08:52So surely this must also be one of the things you must be in charge of.
08:56Of course, Ceci, it's a problem because in the city you have an antenna
09:00that covers two apples.
09:02So you know that if a phone was activated on that antenna,
09:06the person was on those two apples.
09:08The place that Ale tells us, if an antenna covers up to 2 kilometers,
09:12and precisely the initial search radio was 2 kilometers,
09:16it is very difficult to match the presence of a phone
09:21with a link with the fact,
09:23because maybe a person who passed 2 kilometers from where Lian disappeared.
09:27It is a less tool for researchers, which complicates the search more.
09:32Alejandro, how long can a 3-year-old walk?
09:38Very little.
09:39As much as he is used to the sun and the sea.
09:41Very little.
09:42In short, how long can a 3-year-old walk?
09:48Barefoot.
09:49Yes, yes, but with 45 degrees of temperature at 3 in the afternoon,
09:53which is the hottest time.
09:55Imagine that in addition the thermal sensation is much greater.
09:58How long until it dehydrates?
10:00What happens is that this question for me throws ...
10:022 hours, 3 hours.
10:0335 minutes.
10:04Of course, and that question also throws concern,
10:07because that's why on Saturday and Sunday,
10:10we just talked to the person who was in charge of the searches,
10:14they said, we look around the house, we look for it as lost.
10:18Where is the soy?
10:20We check the piles of bricks.
10:22Let's see, they thought the child went out for a walk,
10:25he got very hot, he decomposed,
10:29and here he runs minute by minute until he dehydrates.
10:32Well, but what you have to do is ...
10:34He is lost, they thought.
10:35How long can a 3-year-old walk?
10:38Yes, and trace the search area.
10:40And once you make a trace,
10:44let's suppose it's almost 3 kilometers, let's make it up,
10:47you make a radio as if you put a compass
10:50around those 3 kilometers from the zero point,
10:52where it came from.
10:53And there you start to make a trace,
10:55that trace was made,
10:57then, Lian, there, in that area, is not.
11:00Because if we trust ...
11:02I always distrust, Javi,
11:04if we trust each of the people who participated in the search.
11:07Yes.
11:08I also say it because things may appear tomorrow
11:12that have not been seen yet.
11:13I think of the Logan case,
11:15where we also ask ourselves this question.
11:17Javi, how long could Logan walk alone?
11:21Finally the boot appeared, do you remember?
11:23Yes.
11:24Planted.
11:25Planted.
11:26But it appeared.
11:27I say, these are issues where we cannot have a scientific certainty
11:31because situations appear that have to do
11:34with negligence, with indecency,
11:36or even with malice, thinking of the case of Logan.
11:39Or human error.
11:40Yes, but I say, let's see,
11:42in any other circumstance,
11:44what one does is trust absolutely
11:46in the team that is working,
11:48and it is known that hermeticism sometimes responds to taking care of evidence.
11:51Unfortunately for us,
11:53we have Logan very close,
11:54we have the Pomar, as you also remembered,
11:56Rolando,
11:57we have Guadalupe,
11:59then we are like,
12:01with the eye very set on these first hours,
12:04and to tell the truth, 48 hours have passed
12:07and there is still no certainty.
12:09In terms of child search,
12:11we know this from having spoken at one time with Juancar
12:14and having had sources that do.
12:16If a child does not appear in the first 48 hours,
12:20it is hard, but it is very difficult to find it.
12:23That is why we have just completed the 48 hours
12:26and we wonder what certainties this investigation has.
12:29There is only one error in those first 48 hours
12:32that are usually committed in these cases,
12:34which is that the investigators focus only on the area of disappearance
12:39and do not review the cars that enter and leave the area.
12:42That the place is not closed, that there is no perimeter.
12:45Exactly.
12:46But what happens is that it took, let's see, it took the complaint.
12:48Two hours!
12:49That is, what this idea says, which is logical,
12:51is done at the same time,
12:53let's see, in a shopping mall, a child is lost or something,
12:56the indication for all security personnel,
12:58close and block the doors of the shopping mall.
13:00No one enters and no one leaves.
13:02Yes?
13:03In a place like this, in the case of Logan,
13:05it should have been the same.
13:06Here, the complaint arrived three, four hours later.
13:10So, okay, should it have been done?
13:13Yes, of course, I don't know if they would have done it or not.
13:15The truth is that few times it is acted as it should be acted,
13:18in a situation with these characteristics.
13:21But also, the complaint was four hours later,
13:24or five, because it should have been at eight o'clock at night.
13:27So, that's the point.
13:29Let's see, is it Lian?
13:31Where is it?
13:33They did the tracking.
13:35A child, how long can it last?
13:47It's key what Javier was saying about the time that passed.
13:52Cecilia says, a perimeter was not made,
13:55a fence around Ballester Sud.
13:57Remember that when the Logan incident happened,
14:00it was not done either.
14:02They told us, no, but it's useless, it doesn't work.
14:05And then we discovered that at the time
14:07when the entrance and exit should have been cut off,
14:09on July 9, Maria Victoria Caillava and her husband left.
14:14They left the town, they left the province,
14:18so nothing seems too much when there is a missing child.
14:23Here, in this case, I want to tell you this.
14:26In addition to the Cordoban police, of course,
14:30there is the army.
14:32This is unprecedented.
14:34The army supporting a search for a child
14:37that has never happened in the history of Argentina.
14:40Which, in our opinion, speaks well
14:43of how all the available resources are being used.
14:46Federal police were sent.
14:48There is a gendarmerie in the place.
14:50There is the director of the federal search system
14:52for missing people, Leticia Risco.
14:55I mention her because she was also in the Logan case.
14:58The solution is, and I do not name people to name them,
15:01but to give you an idea of the magnitude of this case,
15:05the Lian case.
15:07There is the national director of TRATA,
15:10Trata de Personas.
15:12This is Ximena Albornoz.
15:14She is there in Cordoba.
15:16In addition to a lot of resources,
15:18Soledad, you were just telling us,
15:20there are already 300 employees who are working.
15:22It increased to 100 this morning.
15:25There are 300 now, plus drones.
15:27K9 is all that has to do with dog searches.
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