00:00In March, Mariana, in one of the courthouses of the San Isidro Courts,
00:04is going to start, probably, one of the most important trials in Argentinian history.
00:09Wow.
00:10After, this is personal, but after the trial in La Junta and, if you want, we can look for another trial,
00:17the one of Fernando Baez Sosa and some other,
00:19we are talking about one of the most important trials in Argentinian history.
00:23There are already accreditations from countries from all continents
00:27that send journalistic teams to cover.
00:30The number of courthouses that are going to be used is being determined.
00:35In one, of course, all the people involved are going to be there.
00:38You can think that there are seven defendants.
00:41For each defendant there is, at least, a lawyer, at least, sometimes more.
00:46In that same courthouse you have all the clerks, who are all the sons of Maradona.
00:50You also have prosecutors, secretaries, the judge's secretary.
00:54It is a courthouse, practically, for all the protagonists.
00:57You are probably going to have another room with a giant screen,
01:01where there may be accredited journalists, other relatives,
01:05and then you are going to have an immense number of journalists at the door.
01:10Seven people are going to play.
01:12Let's remember that the nurse, Gisela de Diana Madrid,
01:15wanted a trial by jurors, which is going to be after this big trial.
01:18There are going to be seven defendants.
01:21There are 109 witnesses, Mariana.
01:24It is not known if all of them are going to play,
01:26because it may be that from here, on March 11,
01:28some of them end up being deported,
01:30but in principle there are more than 100 witnesses, among which there are
01:34journalists, doctors, lawyers, relatives, celebrities,
01:41who are going to play in the San Isidro Courts,
01:44and where a case is going to be exposed for the first time,
01:47which has more than 52 bodies.
01:50For the first time, the lawyers, of course,
01:54will have access to the case.
01:56The clinical stories of Maradona from 2000 until now,
02:01Sacre Coeur, Clinic Los Arcos, Fundación Favaloro, etc., etc.
02:06San Isidro, hematoma subdural.
02:08The Olivos Clinic, of course, Vicente López as well.
02:11It is going to be seen that this, I don't know how they are going to implement it,
02:14because it is very strong, I understand that this,
02:16the relatives are going to run.
02:17The autopsy of Maradona's body is going to take place,
02:21I understand the video of the autopsy of Maradona's body,
02:24that is, approximately three months of, I insist,
02:29one of the most important trials in Argentine history are coming.
02:32To determine if Diego Armando Maradona was killed or not.
02:38There is Vadim Mijanchuk, the doctor.
02:39Vadim Mijanchuk, how are you?
02:41Vadim, well, one of the defendants is your defendant,
02:44Dr. Cosachov.
02:45How are you in this prior to the trial?
02:48Well, thank you Mariana, good afternoon.
02:50We are very well, very happy with all the evidence that was produced
02:55between that accusation of the year 2022 that the prosecutors elaborated
03:01and March 2025,
03:04evidence was produced that will allow us to demonstrate
03:09that my assistant and none of the other defendants committed a crime
03:13and much less, Mariana, that Maradona was killed.
03:16I always say this with a lot of respect.
03:18What are the most forceful evidence that could favor the trial?
03:21Well, there were testimonial statements, there was a second investigation,
03:25incomplete laboratory tests were added to the file,
03:31which do not allow us to reach accurate conclusions.
03:33Therefore, we are very confident and there is still one more investigation missing,
03:37an investigation that we proposed on mental health,
03:40on the law of mental health, on the new civil code,
03:43so that it is determined if at some point,
03:46because you saw that there was talk of the capacity or the incapacity of Maradona,
03:50a silly Mariana,
03:52the Argentine law of 2015 says that the ability of people is presumed
03:58and to determine that a person is not capable,
04:01there has to be a mini-trial, so to speak, in a way that people understand
04:05and that mini-trial has to be requested by people
04:08who are specifically mentioned in the law
04:11and where the doctors are not on that list.
04:14So, the trial is going to be enriching for all parties.
04:18What I sincerely want the most is that the relatives can make their duel
04:22and that the defendants can continue with their lives.
04:24I understand, Vadim, that you have faith in the innocence of your defendant.
04:30Do you think that the other defendants are going to be more complicated in this trial?
04:34Mariana, as I told you at the beginning of our talk,
04:38I believe that the new evidence allows us to say
04:41that criminal responsibility will not be able to be established
04:44in any of the people who have been brought to trial,
04:46none of the eight, not even in the case of the nurse.
04:49That is to say, the evidence that was produced after the accusation,
04:54and this must be said, this must always be said,
04:56and I have been here in your program,
04:58thanks to your generosity, in other cases,
05:01and say, well, I come to a trial with an accusation,
05:04but that accusation has to be tested with certainty in the trial
05:08because if not, there would be no trial.
05:10Who is to blame, doctor?
05:10Wait, if there were no trials...
05:12You, no, I understand you, but...
05:14I just heard it, Adalma, in the note.
05:15That. Who is to blame?
05:16Because, let's see, you say that the seven professionals plus the nurse
05:20have nothing to do with it.
05:21Yes.
05:21Guilty of what?
05:22Of the death of Maradona.
05:23Well, not always, this is very important,
05:25that you give me the opportunity to talk.
05:29Not always there is a death,
05:32there is a criminal responsibility of a third, or of two, or of three, or four, or of another.
05:35But the question is, was he well taken care of enough, Diego?
05:39So that, I don't know...
05:41It's the million dollar question.
05:42Now, was he well taken care of?
05:46It will be discussed in the trial.
05:48Now, I know there are some issues that are criticized,
05:52like the house, the chemical bathroom.
05:54Now...
05:55Dr. Marihuana, alcohol, they didn't take care of him.
05:58Luque's audio, when Luque comes out of a clearing stage
06:01with a photo of Maradona saying that he had operated on him
06:03and he hadn't operated on him.
06:04There are a lot of factors...
06:06For an ethical question, I'm not going to talk in detail
06:09about the behaviors of other people who are not my defendants.
06:11For an ethical question...
06:12Of course, because you're not going to talk about it, Dr. Marihuana.
06:14No, no, I spoke generically.
06:16I'm not going to talk about the stage where the photo was taken.
06:18What I'm telling you is that none of those issues
06:22determined the death of Maradona.
06:24You can say, this is criticable,
06:26it's critical for you, yes, for you, no.
06:28Well, but the summation...
06:30For Vadim...
06:30The summation, Mariana, let me tell you,
06:33let me express it,
06:34the summation of all those behaviors
06:38is not proven to have determined the death.
06:41Let's go over what he died of.
06:43What did he die of?
06:43Of a heart attack.
06:46For an autopsy, that heart attack was agonizing,
06:49of 12 hours, and for another autopsy...
06:51It was a terrible operation.
06:52Yes, and for another autopsy,
06:54well, but for another autopsy it was minutes.
06:56So, if he died,
06:59what is proven is that he died of a heart attack.
07:01What could not be proven, and will no longer be proven,
07:04is what caused that heart attack.
07:06What is, for you, Vadim,
07:08the main witness of this cause?
07:10Someone told me, one of the main witnesses
07:13is the doctor Campbell, Colin Campbell,
07:18who is a neighbor of the neighborhood,
07:19who is the first to see Maradona.
07:21Well, it depends on what for.
07:22If you go to the medical, scientific part,
07:26and we circumscribe this,
07:28to see if someone caused his death,
07:30never a person who arrived after the event
07:34can be important to determine what caused that death.
07:38For me, the most important thing here are the statements
07:41of the witnesses who have had the opportunity to do
07:43examinations, but not of the witnesses
07:46who arrived after the heart event.
07:49Not that.
07:50Nor the previous ones.
07:52Your colleague, your co-worker,
07:54from work, from here on the floor,
07:56was talking about different situations,
07:58which I, out of respect for Maradona,
07:59I prefer not to say them, at least me.
08:03Certain circumstances.
08:05The trial is circumscribed,
08:06and this has been determined by the prosecutors
08:08in an excellent job they did in record time,
08:10Mariana, and this must also be said,
08:12I do not share the conclusions of that accusation,
08:15that I am going to turn in the trial, I say it.
08:18But they circumscribed this between November 11 and 25.
08:21And between November 11 and 25,
08:23it is not proven that Diego,
08:26it is not proven, this I mean,
08:28despite the honesty, a human question,
08:34it is not proven that between November 11 and 25,
08:36which is the subject of this trial,
08:38Maradona used some substances
08:41that you named.
08:42Doctor, we will be calling him,
08:44I have to finish now, and he is coming,
08:46and he is coming, and we will be following him very closely,
08:48so we will be communicating shortly again,
08:52for more details, and we will be covering this
08:54in great detail, thank you very much.
08:56Thank you, doctor.
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