"Mahomes is the most overrated quarterback in football."

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Scheim: "Mahomes is the most overrated quarterback in football." Agree?

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00:00The NFL sees more value in Aaron Rodgers than they do in Bill Belichick.

00:03I don't know if Aaron Rodgers has much left.

00:06I don't either.

00:07I, I watched that game, I saw Colin Coward has been like more deranged than normal by

00:12the way, like.

00:13Yeah, he's been kind of on one lately.

00:15Really weird, and he was saying how Aaron Rodgers was great the second half of the season

00:19without like, not joking, Aaron Rodgers sucked.

00:22He was good in garbage time when games were over and he just kind of threw the ball willy

00:27nilly and when his season was officially over because they were out of the playoffs,

00:31all of a sudden he just funneled every target to Devontae Adams and they, he looked kind

00:34of good because if you just look at the season total stats, he technically had a better year

00:39than Patrick Mahomes.

00:41Like if you just look at the touchdowns, interceptions, yards, all that stuff, it was better than

00:46Patrick Mahomes this year, but nobody on planet earth believes Aaron Rodgers is anywhere close

00:51to Patrick Mahomes.

00:52If you actually watch the football games, you know for a fact Aaron Rodgers was not

00:56that good this year.

00:57But I will say this though, Mahomes, the last two seasons, hasn't even been top 15 in stats.

01:06No, he's not.

01:07And it's, people talk about the weapons, we all talk about it, but Patrick Mahomes has

01:12more weapons than the Patriots did for their Super Bowl winning teams, 0-7 obviously was

01:17different, but I watched Mahomes, he's had a passer rating of 93 and 92 the last two

01:22seasons, which is mediocre in 20 years ago, and it's borderline bad in today's NFL.

01:29If you're a great starting quarterback, you should be right around 100 at this stage.

01:34And I am fascinated to see how the Chiefs build around him this offseason, what they

01:39do, obviously we both think Kelsey's gone, but it's just so interesting that like, there

01:47isn't a conversation about Mahomes' performance, even in the aftermath of that loss, which

01:51he was awful in.

01:52I think it's just because like all regular season, they were winning games, so they just

01:56kind of overlooked the bad numbers and didn't care because the Chiefs were, you know, 15

02:00and 1.

02:01And it's like, well, you know, they're just finding ways to win and Mahomes is doing what

02:04Mahomes does and winning late in games and not making a ton of mistakes, even though

02:08he threw a handful of interceptions this year.

02:10And so I think people just overlook it because it's part of the same reason why they were

02:15anointing the Chiefs the next great dynasty before they had even three-peated.

02:19Like that's, that's the whole reason people just, I don't know what it is, this narrative

02:24that kind of just took over national media post Tom Brady in that Patrick Mahomes is

02:29like the next coming of Christ and they just, nobody can ever say anything bad about Patrick

02:35Mahomes.

02:36And so that's just-

02:37But isn't it interesting though?

02:38Like I'm sitting here, if I was at ESPN today, to me, it's a fair question to ask what happened

02:45to Mahomes the last two regular seasons, minus the stat padding in the Superbowl.

02:49He was borderline awful.

02:51Basically, I mean, he cost them that Superbowl.

02:54You could say that.

02:55Yes, he did.

02:56Absolutely.

02:57He did.

02:58And so you sit here and it's like, okay, so he was going to be coronated the goat and

03:03now he's awful and mediocre in the regular season.

03:06And it's like, well, what's going to happen with Travis Kelsey?

03:09It's just such a bizarre double standard.

03:10You want to take Curtis?

03:11You want a good hot take?

03:12Yeah.

03:13Who do you think Mahomes is the most overrated quarterback in football?

03:16Changed my mind.

03:17Hey, ah, I, I would say Ken Laird would argue either Trevor Lawrence or Justin Herbert.

03:24Yeah.

03:25But they're not even that overrated.

03:27Like they're like, nobody has Justin Herbert as their number one quarterback.

03:32So if you were to start today, I haven't thought about this at all and you're building for

03:36the next five years, okay, four to five years, rank me the quarterbacks that you would have

03:43ahead of Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson.

03:51That's probably end of list.

03:52I'll be honest.

03:53Not burrow.

03:54No.

03:55He just gets hurt too much.

03:56Like to my home's his credit.

03:57The one thing my homes doesn't do is miss football games.

03:59He like plays every single week.

04:01So yeah, I would probably do that.

04:03But like, I just, I think people overlook how much of a benefit it has been for my homes

04:08to play with Andy Reid for his entire career and what Andy Reid has done for him with the

04:13offense, how easy it was when he first came in as quarterback and everything like that

04:18and what he's taught him.

04:19Like I, people just kind of overlooked that.

04:21And so, which is why I'm really curious to see what my homes, his career will look like

04:26post Andy Reid, just like Tom Brady had to do a career, you know, uh, post great defense

04:31Oh one, two, three, uh, or three and four.

04:35And then like post Randy Moss and Wes Welker, he had to kind of change himself multiple

04:40times throughout his career.

04:42And I'm kind of curious to see how that looks from my homes.

04:44Because I mean, since last two seasons has been, as you put it like kind of pedestrian

04:52and I wouldn't even say kind of pedestrian, very pedestrian from my homes.

04:56And he's really had like two amazing seasons.

04:59It was that first season in 18 and then 2022 where it threw for 5,200 yards.

05:03Like those were insane seasons.

05:06The other seasons were good, but it was really just the super bowl wins that were the whole

05:11reason people were saying my homes was the best quarterback in football.

05:15Yeah.

05:16I, it's hard for me to say Lamar and Josh over Patrick because of the head to head in

05:22the playoffs.

05:23But, but my thing is Curtis, if you put Josh Allen on that chiefs team and gave him everything

05:28Patrick my homes had and just switch teams and give Patrick my homes, Sean McDermott

05:33and that bills team does, do you think, do you think my home still wins that football

05:37game?

05:38Oh no, without a doubt.

05:39If you flip quarterbacks in the AFC championship, the chiefs win with, with Josh Allen easily.

05:43And that's kind of where I'm at.

05:44Like my home just has a better GM.

05:46He has a better head coach, a better support system.

05:49Like it's just everything about the Jesus better than the bills of the Ravens.

05:53And it's just, and I think that's the major, if Lamar Jackson had Andy Reed, the, he would,

06:00he would probably would have won three straight MVPs.

06:03Right.

06:04And JC three one six in the Twitch chat is very enraged about Brady saying he had an

06:0986.2 rating in his first Superbowl.

06:12Yeah.

06:13Did you know that the stats are very different in the early two thousands before they cultified

06:18the NFL with Bill Pulley and changing every rule to benefit receivers and on offense.

06:23We've also told you a million times, Tom Brady was a game manager in his first season as

06:26the quarterback of the Patriots.

06:28And in his second year as a starter, third year in the NFL, you know what Tom Brady did?

06:32He led the NFL in touchdown passes with 24, which is basically what these guys get in

06:36the first half of the season.

06:37The game has changed.

06:38I would have, I would beg you implore you to pay attention, but either way, I'm glad

06:42you're listening and watching on Twitch.

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06:49we're going to build the Patriots this off season.

06:52Where are you?

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06:54And his chimes take that he would take Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen ahead of Mahomes dumber

07:02or better than his Montana sucks one.

07:05We'll get your thoughts.

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