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Bollywood royalty, podcast host, entrepreneur talks about her famous Bachchan clan, working with family and why she stayed away from films

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00:00For the longest time there was this narrative around women empowerment being
00:04or you have to be that CEO or you have to get the top job and then you're a strong independent
00:08woman but a homemaker is equally as strong, she's equally as independent and that's
00:13what women empowerment is. It's the freedom to make the choice that you want to make
00:17for yourself and whether that's being a homemaker, whether that's being a CEO, whether that's being
00:22whatever you want to be, that is really what the definition of a superwoman is and I don't think
00:28we should look down upon choices that women make. A lot of times I see discussions
00:34around a homemaker is not considered a strong independent woman when I don't think
00:38that's the case. I think she's actually far stronger and far more independent than anyone
00:42out there because she is seeing and facing a very different life at home and one that we don't
00:48appreciate enough. She's responsible for raising a whole generation of people who are
00:53going to change the world someday so that is equally as pressurizing as being a CEO or
00:59leading a company of thousands of people so. I mean are you happy with the kind of response
01:05you're getting for your show since you're working? Yeah, I mean it's been really overwhelming
01:10so much love for season two. I think people are happy that we switched a video that was
01:15something we heard a lot in season one that they wanted to see us so I think that that's
01:20really been a game changer for season two that you know we were on video this time but it's
01:25been great you know very very very grateful for all the love and support that we've gotten for
01:30the show and I'm really sad that the season is almost over. We have two more episodes
01:36left so that's a little sad but it's been a great experience. Right, it's like you know three
01:41generations of women. I thought that intergenerational point and perspective that came
01:46through. Is that why you chose, why would you choose to work with your family because I remember
01:50Navya in J school we were told not to work with family ever. You know don't write about your family
01:56nothing good is going to come of it but you're working with them. Is that a good idea to work
02:00with family? Yeah, I mean so the idea kind of came about during the lockdown. I think we got a lot of
02:06time with each other and you know we all live together so these are conversations that we do
02:10have on a daily basis and my mom Nani and I kind of spend time sitting on the sofa and talking
02:17about life and you know different topics and the idea just kind of popped up that why not do this
02:23as a podcast? Why not have some of these conversations in a public forum? You know more so that
02:29you could see the three different opinions right from three different generations which is very
02:33interesting because a lot of the times they're not the same. A lot of the times there are disagreements
02:39there are agreements also but they're different thoughts and different points of view and I think
02:43that that's always a great thing to put out there in the public forum and I think also the
02:49conversations and the themes and the topics that we kind of curated for each episode are also I
02:55think very relevant to today's youth and just today's context in general. So we felt that
03:00it was nice that we could have some of these conversations and add our thoughts to the
03:05ever-going conversations around these topics as well. Right and Navya the best part is I love
03:11listening to Shweta Bachchan the most, your mom, who throws out like the most sarcastic life lessons
03:17with her very yeah she's got the most sardonic sense of humor. Big favorite I think she has her own
03:22fan base after this podcast because you know people love hearing what she has to say and
03:28she's always got something very insightful and fun you know so I think she's kind of
03:34gathered her own fan base through this podcast as well. Right when I look at the series as well I do
03:41see a portrait of privilege but what is different about it is that you guys are also keenly aware of
03:46it you know and you don't take it lightly I could be wrong but I just feel that you guys
03:51know that you come from a sense of privilege and therefore you use your voice. Did you guys have a
03:56conversation about that maybe at some point people would look at it as a vanity project?
04:00Yeah no I think that we've always been extremely aware of our privilege it's something I have
04:06always talked about since the beginning. I think it's something that I've recognized at each step
04:11in my professional life as well that the fact that I am where I am today is largely due to privilege
04:17and the opportunities that I got at a very young age. I think all three of us are very much aware
04:22of that very conscious of that and also feel a very large sense of responsibility with the privilege
04:27that we have. Having said that I think also some of the conversations we have which we also have
04:33mentioned in the podcast are you know maybe just you know relevant to us because we have lived a
04:39very different life to maybe majority of people listening to the podcast but I think the overall
04:45themes you know whether we've talked about women, whether we've talked about health, whether we've
04:49talked about financial independence, masculinity you know the larger themes from season two.
04:55I think that in general our opinions might align with what people believe as well so I think that
05:00that's really the beauty of it that you know no matter where you come from I think everyone stands
05:05for the right thing, everyone believes in the right thing and especially for us the larger
05:10theme of women empowerment is something that I think all three of us strongly believe in. So
05:14I think irrespective of the background, irrespective of the privilege I think it's
05:18something that we all agree on as a society and I think that that was really what we wanted to
05:24come out of the show is that of course we have our own personal experiences that we share but
05:29there is a larger unified voice that also comes out of the podcast for certain topics and themes.
05:35Now that's so good and Navya there's always this pleasure to be performatively woke these days
05:40right, you need to sound a certain narrative or spin a certain narrative, say the right thing.
05:46Do where you guys, are you guys under pressure to sound woke? No I think see for me I work in
05:51the development sector I've been working in the non-profit sector for the last three and a half
05:56four years so for me the work that I do is my life so the conversations that I have whether it's
06:01at home, whether it's you know with you or whether it's at a public platform are all the same because
06:06this is what I live and breathe every day so for me it's not something that I have to think about
06:11it's something that comes very naturally to me with the kind of profession that I chose. I think
06:15similar for my nani who's you know had so much experience working in an industry where
06:21you know she was started off at the age of 16 and you know she's been an actress and she's seen
06:26the industry change from you know when she started out in the 60s 70s to now so she has
06:32her own opinions right about women and the entire context of where we are today
06:38and I think my mom of course being an author and an entrepreneur herself but also a homemaker
06:44I think she has her own opinions about what and how women are talked about in today's context so
06:48I think it's not something that we actively tried to do but I think just inherently because of the
06:54professions we chose or because of where we are personally in our lives I think it's something that
06:58comes very naturally so I mean I'm glad that it kind of fits into the context and conversation
07:05of today which is you know I wouldn't use the word woke I would say more conscious I think people
07:10are a lot more conscious today about certain things and you know we are as three women from
07:16the same family also very conscious of the context of what's happening in the world today and
07:21I'm glad that we were able to address some of those issues through our cast. Lovely and have
07:27you thought of having the male not just male members from your family but having a male voice
07:32or was it conscious to have it just as a women's only platform perhaps it's you know it's very
07:37rare where women get to bat right still talking about it I think most of the time even when it
07:42comes to wage parity we are a long way off so do you think this is just for women this is like
07:48for women by women is that one of course was the three of us season two we do have an episode where
07:55my brother Agastya oh where my brother Agastya joined in for an episode and the conversation
08:02was around masculinity so this season we also did try to include themes around masculinity
08:08you know we also don't want to exclude men from the conversation around women I very strongly
08:14believe that you know women empowerment is not something we can fully achieve without the support
08:19of the men in our lives they play very very important roles in our lives whether that's
08:24as brothers, colleagues, partners or even friends so I think it's very important to include the men
08:31in conversations that we have around women so we definitely did try to do that this season as well
08:37with my brother and he did a great job he stole the show I think that he was a guest star I mean
08:44he's not like yeah you know it's like he's he's not the bride or the groom right he's a bridesmaid
08:49in that episode yeah he was he was a lot of love that came his way for that conversation and I'm
08:57glad that you know we were slowly able to integrate some themes around men as well in our
09:01show that's that's something that we want to continue doing and hopefully if we have a season
09:05three I would love to have more male guests and you know have their point of view on some of
09:10the issues relating to women you know Navya what I love about you I feel you're on your
09:15own clock I'm I know that women are often told we have the biological clock ticking
09:20real clock ticking but you seem to have just you're marching to your own like time clock I
09:24feel you're not in a hurry to be heard you're not I just feel that you know you're very
09:29comfortable in your own skin and that's not easy right did it always come easy to you or do you
09:34wake up thinking okay what am I doing do you have existentialist angst at any point yeah I mean I
09:40think everyone does at some point I think when you wake up and you kind of see what you have
09:47done in your life you always feel in comparison that there's so much more to do right there's so
09:52much more that has to be achieved and especially when you know you still see that you know we we
09:58haven't achieved gender equality completely or there are certain situations in which you know
10:02women aren't given opportunities that they deserve so I think when you see that around you you feel
10:06that there is so much that has to be done and there's not enough time to complete that or to
10:11do it so that's definitely where the existentialism kicks in that will I be able to achieve this in my
10:17lifetime will I be able to kind of make an impact or you know leave society a better place than I
10:22found it so I think when I start thinking about those things it's definitely you get a sense of
10:29feeling of that you've not done enough but I also keep reminding myself that you know whether it's
10:34achievement or whether it's success and especially in the field of work that I'm in you know impact
10:39is not always necessarily largely in numbers it's also in the quality of the impact and the depth of
10:45the impact so even if I can impact you know one person's life and help them and change their life
10:51that to me is success that to me is an achievement and it doesn't have to be in the scale of thousands
10:56I mean that's the dream to be able to impact people at that level but in our small way in
11:01our daily lives if we can start by even impacting one life I think that's that's a good place to be
11:08right do you have women coming up to you and saying perhaps you know somewhere I saw your
11:12podcast I heard it and I thought you don't have to have it all you know because women want to
11:16have it all right there's always that pressure to have it all and we can't I mean it's a fact
11:20you can't be everything you can't be a superwoman I feel being a superwoman is kind of idealized
11:25I think that's I also think it adds a sense of pressure right there and I think when we talk
11:29about for the longest time there was this narrative around you know women empowerment being
11:34or you have to be that ceo or you have to get the top job and then you're a strong independent woman
11:39but a homemaker is equally as strong she's equally as independent and that's that's what
11:44women empowerment is right it's the freedom to make the choice that you want to make for yourself
11:48and whether that's being a homemaker whether that's being a ceo whether that's being whatever
11:52you want to be that is really what the definition of a superwoman is and I don't think we should
11:58look down upon choices that women make a lot of times I see you know discussions around oh you
12:04know a homemaker is not considered a strong independent woman when I don't think that's
12:09the case I think she's actually far stronger and far more independent than anyone out there because
12:13she is seeing and facing a very different life at home and one that we don't appreciate enough you
12:18know she's responsible for raising a whole generation of people who are going to change
12:23the world someday so that is equally as pressurizing as being a ceo or you know leading a company of
12:30thousands of people so I think that to me is is what I believe and I think that the whole concept
12:36of women empowerment really lies around respecting and you know giving women the freedom to make the
12:41choices that they want to make. No I love that thought as well and like you said a homemaker
12:46has no sick days off yeah she doesn't get a bonus really I mean it is the toughest toughest job
12:53and often a very underappreciated job and you know I kind of probably only came to realize
12:59that now when I'm in my you know late 20s and I kind of look at my mom and I feel so grateful for
13:06a lot of the sacrifices that she made you know in her younger life to kind of help me get to where
13:10I am or to you know put that time and put that energy into raising me and my brother and I think
13:16that I think to all the moms out there I think it's a very tough job and you know they sacrifice
13:21more than we think that they do for for our happiness and for our success so I think that's
13:25something that we should give them credit for. I do and I think they've I mean generally when I
13:30look at all three of you women talking it just seems like a very democratic household I mean
13:35you may have fights and all of that I mean that goes I mean you're as dysfunctional as any other
13:39family next door I think is that why you want to pay it forward like when did the seed of that
13:46philanthropy that I want to pay it forward I want to use my clout my celebrity for greater good come
13:52about? I mean I definitely don't think I'm a celebrity I think I was just fortunate to
13:57you know be where I am and to be in the family that I am and I think that there might be a reason
14:02why because of them I have the platform that I have or people kind of watch what I do and I
14:08want to use that platform for the right thing I want to use it to talk about things that are
14:12important and to kind of use the resources and the opportunities that I have been given and maximize
14:18those so that I could share them with others or I could bring them to others and not in the form
14:24of sympathy or not in the form of pity but in the form of that there are women out there who deserve
14:28the same opportunities that I have and how can I you know share the ones that I have been given or
14:34how can I maximize that for the women around me and I think that's really where the seed of wanting
14:40to you know join the development sector really came from and I think that just in general whether
14:45you come from privilege whether you don't come from privilege I think as a citizen of this country
14:50and just as human beings we have a moral responsibility to just leave society a better
14:56place and we found it so I think I'm also just playing my part in doing that. You're doing such
15:02an amazing job I mean you're really young I know you're in your 20s you haven't got it all out
15:07but at the same time you just seem like I mean you seem to wear your vulnerabilities on your sleeve
15:12which I think many people relate to it and thank you. Thank you. Such a pleasure. Is there anything
15:18you want to add? I'm not asking you the usual question of why not because I'm like we're over it.
15:25It's never even something that I considered so I don't even know how to answer that question
15:28anymore because it was never something that even crossed my mind. No but you're entertaining us.
15:36And also paying it forward it's a very rare combination so thank you. Thank you for doing
15:40that. If there's anything you want to add I'll be happy to anything you would like to. No I mean
15:44thank you so much for speaking to me and I hope that you enjoy watching the rest of the season.
15:50I do. I really love it. I think all you three women are like a hoot. Thank you. It's like a fly on the
15:56wall approach and I think the editing of the show is brilliant. I like how you all don't edit out
16:01your mistakes which I think takes a lot of courage. Yeah. Thank you. Sanitize it. Thank you for not
16:07sanitizing it. Thank you. Thank you. That's really sweet of you.
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