00:00Democracy is not about elections.
00:04Election is a starting point.
00:07Free and fair election is a starting point, which we don't have today, I can tell you.
00:15Second thing is really institutions, independent institutions, judiciary, security, police,
00:22universities.
00:23Our universities are not independent.
00:27If I get invited to a university, vice-chancellor gets panicked.
00:32Hello, Petroda is invited?
00:35No, no, no, no, government might say something, don't invite him.
00:40Is that democracy?
00:42Is that freedom?
00:44Then civil society is not allowed to function properly.
00:50Third, media is not fair.
00:55These are the things that make democracy, you know, and we say, yes, we have democracy
01:01because we had elections.
01:03No, that's not true.
01:07We didn't have fair and free elections.
01:11Now we can talk about the degree of it and we can have a discussion on it, that's fine.
01:16But I should be able to have a conversation, a dignified conversation, you and I had a
01:23dignified conversation.
01:27You know, we don't have to agree on everything, but you are a young man and I need to understand
01:31your needs.
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