00:00I don't think that coming out is a necessity, but I would also say that to a degree, some
00:07of the people that say they don't need to come out, they also have the luxury of being
00:13represented.
00:15So I don't think that anyone has to come out.
00:18For me personally, I needed to, A, for my own mental health, because if you live with
00:26a secret, whether you're gay or lesbian or pansexual or bisexual, if you identify as
00:35something but you can't show it in public, then the lengths you go to to try to be happy
00:42with no one knowing, it's not worth it.
00:46The mental drain and the unhappiness that you go through, it's not worth it.
00:51So I didn't come out for anybody.
00:54I came out for me because I knew that it would allow me to operate in a different way,
00:59which would allow me to be mentally healthy.
01:03And I also realized that by me coming out, the byproduct of that is representation, especially
01:09when it comes to pansexual awareness and erasure, just like bisexual erasure and the conversations
01:17around that.
01:19So the byproduct is being able to represent a community that doesn't always have a voice.
01:27I mean, he's the same.
01:29It's the same person.
01:31He is exactly the same.
01:33If anything, whether correlation equals causation, he's really in his fashion era right now.
01:43That's a bigger difference.
01:45But otherwise, he's the same person.
01:48No one found out.
01:49But we we knew we were part of that process as well.
01:52So it wasn't like he's stepping into this new personhood and all of these things.
01:56It's more that everyone else is getting to see him.
02:00But he's been the same old person to us, I think.
02:04Wayne is a superhero.
02:06I feel like he's just untouchable.
02:07He's the most talented person I've ever witnessed in my entire life, you know, and people forget
02:15that he's a he's a man, that he's human.
02:18He's just expected to do everything at an expert level, right out the gate.
02:24And so I'm really excited for people to meet Wayne and to see that he's mortal.
02:30You know, he's mortal.
02:32I think family is today.
02:35I think it's one of the most radical ideas you can construct and live into.
02:41It means a safe space where you're supported and you can sort of really unfold.
02:48You can bloom your life in whatever that looks like for you, like with support, like we can't
02:54do anything by ourselves, you know, as much as I want to do everything on my own, like
03:00I can't.
03:01And that's I think that's a fact of life.
03:03And so family means the, you know, sort of the ground to to really bloom into whoever
03:10you are, however that looks and pursue, you know, your hopes, your dreams, your desires
03:15from that space.
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