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00:00Let's go back to the phone. From San Telmo, we have Dr. Alejandro Chipola with us.

00:03How are you, doctor? Thank you for attending us.

00:06Yes, yes, here is Marina, Alejandro Chipola.

00:09Listen to them to get all the doubts out.

00:12How are you, Dr. Chipola? Well, first of all, how did you see More?

00:15I understand that he was... I don't know if he was there for a long time or if he went and came back.

00:19But give us a general overview of how she is.

00:22I was... How are you all? Good afternoon.

00:26I was with her for about an hour.

00:31I saw her devastated. I tried to comfort her and she got a little better.

00:35Then I asked her to film me a video of her son to show him that she was fine.

00:41Because her concern was how the baby was.

00:43She was desperate, that's why she didn't stop crying.

00:46That was able to calm her down.

00:49And well, now she is waiting to really know what is in the accusation,

00:53what is the proof and what is going to be imputed on her, right?

00:56Alejandro, good afternoon. Tatiana Shapiro greets you. How are you?

01:01Regarding the baby, we were just discussing here.

01:04Of course, many people are very angry that a mother commits a crime

01:08or that certain images are seen regarding the previous episode,

01:12which we already talked about, involving a baby.

01:16At the same time, there is a law in Argentina that says that

01:20private women of freedom have the right to comply with sentences

01:25up to the age of four with their children.

01:28I understand that you are going to ask immediately

01:31that she can wait for the process at home or in a domestic prison.

01:36But if today the grandfather would like to take the baby to see Morena,

01:41can she have contact with you thinking about the baby, not about Morena?

01:47Yes, it is already something that we talked about

01:50and we are not going to wait for the domestic arrest to be decided

01:53and the imprisonment that I am going to ask tomorrow to the two institutes,

01:56expecting that they tell me that the imprisonment is not true

02:00and to gain time.

02:02Is that going to be declared in the inquiry?

02:04I don't know.

02:05According to what I see in the file tomorrow,

02:07so far they have not linked it to me by the Public Prosecutor's Office.

02:11They called me twice and it didn't happen.

02:14So tomorrow I will be aware of everything, right?

02:17Alejandro, beyond the concrete evidence that is in the file,

02:22I imagine that you have knowledge of the sequence of events

02:26as the press told them, as we told them,

02:29of what would have happened, of what happened that January 18.

02:32Did you have the opportunity to ask him

02:35what he was doing in the corner of a house

02:37where they were stealing in San Isidro?

02:39I understand that she does not live in San Isidro

02:41and that later the two delinquents,

02:43the two who were in the house, get into his car.

02:45Did you have the opportunity to ask him,

02:47even informally, without knowing the file,

02:49as you clarified it yesterday?

02:51Or what was he doing that night in that corner?

02:53No, I didn't ask him because the reality

02:55is what is in the file,

02:57what I'm going to be interested in now.

02:59And now to load her with questions,

03:01an interrogation that doesn't make sense,

03:03I didn't see it necessary.

03:05He didn't even want to explain to you

03:07what he was doing that Saturday night.

03:09No, I didn't ask for explanations

03:11until I saw the file.

03:13I didn't see it necessary.

03:15I opted for her mental health

03:17and tried to console her.

03:19The reality is that tomorrow

03:21we are going to be debating on that topic

03:23and I will be formulating the right questions.

03:25Today I just called to calm her down

03:27because I found a person totally overwhelmed

03:29and her psyche,

03:31I tried to protect her to the maximum.

03:33That's why I tried to divert the topic

03:35just so she could be calm.

03:38That's why I got videos

03:40from Amadeo

03:42and I stayed talking

03:44about any other question.

03:46There are times when

03:48trying to interrogate

03:50a person when she is overwhelmed

03:52the reality is that it doesn't make sense.

03:54It is to load someone more

03:56when it would be to make assumptions.

03:58She knows that the baby is with Jorge

04:00and she agrees with this.

04:02Alejandro knows it and agrees.

04:04Yes, she agrees.

04:06I told her everything.

04:08Morena knows everything.

04:10Alejandro, you are talking about mental health,

04:12you mentioned the psyche,

04:14the overwhelming.

04:16How is Morena Rial?

04:18It is an extra-judicial question.

04:20It is a personal or human question.

04:22What do you see when you see her in general?

04:24Who is Morena Rial for you?

04:26For me she is a very important person.

04:28She is my best friend.

04:30She is the mother of my son.

04:32With me she is

04:34always the most important.

04:36I can't tell you anything else.

04:38From any other field

04:40I can tell you that she is a person

04:42capable of

04:44having problems with her mother

04:46and then

04:48with her partners.

04:50She can mark her a little

04:52and she is a person

04:54that sometimes

04:56I had convinced her to come to live here

04:58to be closer to her.

05:00She can be manipulable

05:02or sometimes incredulous.

05:04And these situations

05:06of incredulity

05:08because there are questions

05:10that I am not going to tell

05:12but she calls me to tell me

05:14that this person told me this

05:16that is what leads me to reason

05:18the incredulity of her

05:20or the innocence.

05:22I don't understand where you are going

05:24with this idea that she is naive

05:26or influential.

05:28I am giving you

05:30what I was asked

05:32a human opinion from Morena

05:34I am just answering that.

05:36You say she has bad companies

05:38that exert a bad influence on her

05:40you are more or less in the line of Rial.

05:42She said something else

05:44that someone could have manipulated her

05:46someone could have told her

05:48do me the leg with this

05:50and she who is a fool in this

05:52ended up getting into a serious problem.

05:54Of course, she is a responsible adult

05:56she is 25 years old

05:59I am not taking away

06:01responsibility

06:03First, I am not attributing

06:05responsibility

06:07because for now we are at the beginning

06:09of a file that we do not know the result

06:11that is, tomorrow ends

06:13with an apology

06:15and they will all go out to apologize

06:17to those who made the hypothesis

06:19that's why I try to explain

06:21that the principle of innocence

06:23must prevail

06:25and that for now we have a part

06:27that filters the video of Morena

06:29getting out of a car

06:31and not when these guys

06:33enter the vehicle

06:35to see what attitude they had

06:37when they entered the vehicle

06:39or what they were carrying in their hands

06:41What do you say?

06:43That it can be a kind of bed

06:45that there is a persecution against her?

06:47I'm trying to interpret

06:49I have to do an analysis

06:51of what I see

06:53because for now I am not linked

06:55Dr. Chipolla, a question

06:57from Alessandro

06:59A question

07:01Are you thinking

07:03of a full reparation?

07:05Because if the father says

07:07he has already apologized

07:09to the victims to his father

07:11clearly Morena

07:13will think the same

07:15she was not actively

07:17although the participation

07:19is a serious participation

07:21but she was not in the place of the fact

07:23until there is some confusion

07:25I can opt for one

07:27there are a lot of institutes

07:29that I can use

07:31while the tomorrow is resolved

07:33I can ask the ORAC

07:35I can call

07:37the alleged victims

07:39to make a pecuniary offer

07:41regarding the person of Morena

07:43not of the others

07:45and solve it because the legal figure

07:47allows it

07:49as a result of the modification of the criminal code

07:51You just said

07:53that you have a very good relationship with Morena

07:55Do you know the other detainees?

07:57The one who is a fugitive?

07:59No, I don't know them

08:01Did she tell you at some point

08:03because I understand that the 22 are the same rights

08:05Did she tell you who they are?

08:07No, because when she was arrested

08:09all those people

08:11I said get out of your life

08:13they don't add anything to you

08:15I started studying

08:17but those people

08:20I didn't know them

08:22Let's remember that the fact

08:24that she is arrested

08:26is prior to the fact

08:28that she made public

08:30the 22-23 of January

08:32When I meet Morena

08:34I don't come with that person

08:36I don't get together

08:38I'm not a criminal lawyer

08:40I don't do my personal life

08:42with people

08:44who are not of my trust

08:46Mr. Chipola

08:48Chipola, good afternoon

08:50I was listening to you

08:52and there is something

08:54that didn't close

08:56I think that

08:58the overflow of Morena Rial

09:00doesn't coincide

09:02because of her son

09:04after it was known

09:06that he was in prison

09:08with the action that he had

09:10because at the moment

09:12that she was acting

09:14that she was doing

09:16because for me

09:18unconsciously

09:20I don't know

09:22it doesn't coincide

09:24she was overflowing

09:26because she was in the dungeon

09:28as we say in my country

09:30or she was overflowing

09:32because of her son

09:34I didn't understand

09:36I found her

09:38in the police station

09:40overflowing because of the situation

09:42not because of the son

09:44I am very responsible for what she did

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