00:00There is a lot of concern because of the fires and especially in the area where the forests are on fire.
00:09This is affecting more than 2,100 hectares.
00:15There is a lot of concern about these fires in this community.
00:20For a few days now, firefighters have been working non-stop on this issue.
00:27Once again, we have to talk about winters and once again we have to talk about fire, unfortunately.
00:32We are going to go to Mari Noche. There is Carla Girandini.
00:35Carla, how are you? Good morning. How is the situation?
00:41Hello Javi, Nora, good morning.
00:43Well, the fire remains active with an increase in high temperatures.
00:49Different sectors began to be activated with new columns of fire.
00:53This was reported yesterday by the National Park, with the last part that came out last night.
01:00Here, Javi, we have very high temperatures. Today it is 24 degrees.
01:05This temperature will rise until approximately next Wednesday.
01:10Here in Patagonia, we are on fire.
01:14It is a tremendous heat.
01:17By the way, we have to clarify that it is good for the people who come here to the province to be very careful.
01:24We are at 85% and we have to be careful of the people who enter to do camping or whatever,
01:33to do it in places specially designed for that.
01:37How are you working? With planes, helicopters, beyond land work?
01:42I mean, the air. How is it?
01:45Well, yesterday there was a monitoring with a helicopter to update this surface that you were saying,
01:52which so far is 2,122 hectares.
01:55What they say is that it is a number that can vary depending, obviously, on these updates that are made in the field.
02:02You saw that sometimes we said a number, then we went up a little.
02:05Well, this is normal that it varies.
02:07They told us specifically to know the fluctuation of the calculations.
02:13We are going to repeat, obviously, that it is not affecting populated areas or public use,
02:18that still the tourism trails, let's say, are still open,
02:22that the same people who come to vacation, if they are going to go through that sector,
02:27let's remember that it is also far from Bariloche, it is the sector of Lake Los Manzanos.
02:33Well, there are areas and trails that are specifically made for tourism,
02:38but well, it would not be affecting this yet,
02:40but anything you put on the national parks page and there they tell you which are the trails that are open
02:46and, incidentally, also make the tracking record, which is very important.
02:50Then I tell you, Javi, in the place there are like more than 70 people, 70 brigadists,
02:56and there is a prefecture boat, two land vehicles, two helicopters,
03:04two hydrant planes, sorry, and a plane specifically also an observer,
03:10which are generally the ones that go out in the morning to see the situation.
03:14We also spoke with the chief of firefighters of the SPLIT of El Bolsón and also from here,
03:20and what they told us so far is that although they had meetings today,
03:24tomorrow they will have another meeting again,
03:26surely it will be to see how the reality continues to advance.
03:31Javi, as I was saying, it is so hot that this sometimes does not allow the good work of the brigadists,
03:39because there is a lot of smoke, a lot of heat, plus the fire and it becomes complicated to enter.
03:44Overwhelming, clearly, a great job.
03:46I was seeing the fighters, the brigadists, who are approximately 70,
03:52they had to spend the night down there, right?
03:54In the camps, they could not go to their homes,
03:57because there was a statement thanking them for their work, their dedication,
04:00it really is a very hard task.
04:05Yes, totally, Nora.
04:07The truth is, it is an extremely hard job, as you said,
04:12we have to be grateful to those who are there putting their chest out,
04:16even a 31st, a 1st were there facing them, right?
04:21And many also in a camp, because there are several who are in a camp,
04:25there are 27, some were able to fold them, others not,
04:29as you said, it is something that we have to be grateful for,
04:33totally, that they are there facing this, and well, it gets complicated.
04:38Exactly, and what is expected now?
04:40That this extends, I say, the heat surely should not be helping, right?
04:47No, that's exactly what is happening now, the heat is not helping,
04:52well, they are doing what they can, that's precisely why I imagine these meetings,
04:57that surely now, in these days, we will have news between today and tomorrow,
05:01surely something will come out of these meetings,
05:04let's hope that, well, that it does not continue to extend,
05:07we still know that it is active, unfortunately,
05:09and that of these 2,122 hectares, the fire is spreading everywhere,
05:14that they also told us this through the guides,
05:17that it was a different fire from the others,
05:20that in the afternoon there is still movement, at night there is still movement,
05:25so well, this also made it more difficult.
05:28Exactly, well, it is a fact that, let's say,
05:31it still cannot be established with certainty, right?
05:35How it originated, how it started, all this, right?
05:41What the coordinator of the SPRIF of Rio Negro told us the other day,
05:46is that apparently it would have been a lightning,
05:49just that it fell on December 16,
05:51also even those of Civil Protection told us the same,
05:54we know that these electric storms,
05:57there is like lightning, what they explained to us from the ignorance of the area,
06:02that there was lightning inside the tree or in the root,
06:07and this later, well, generated like a, I don't know,
06:10as if it were something that is lit there,
06:13and then, that's why later, it seems strange to say from December 16,
06:18but these things are things that happen.
06:21No, it is that you know what happens,
06:23luckily it is not the hand of the man, I say.
06:26Brigadists have explained to me several times that,
06:29in reality, the brigadists have to continue acting
06:33when it is seen that there is white smoke and everything is off,
06:36on the surface, why?
06:38And keep hydrating the earth,
06:40because below the roots are still on fire,
06:44then that goes below the earth with fire,
06:48and it is obviously burning other plants,
06:51other vegetation that is either dry or has not been burned by the flames.
06:57So the issue is not only the fire that is on the surface,
07:01in the trunk, in the branches, in the leaves,
07:04but also in the roots,
07:05that is the concern many times of this type of fire,
07:09because it obviously spreads too,
07:11and under the ashes, when a mattress is formed,
07:14a kind of ash mattress,
07:16they have to remove, once they turn it off,
07:19to see if there is still ash underneath,
07:23or in this case, burning leaves.
07:25It's like when you make a barbecue,
07:27you see that you put all the ash together,
07:30when the barbecue is over,
07:31and you are going to take it out,
07:33and on the outside it seems that it is off,
07:37there is not even smoke,
07:38but you throw it in a basket of papers,
07:41and it catches fire.
07:42Why is that?
07:43Because it is still on fire underneath,
07:45so you have to remove it and obviously turn it off.
07:48It is a task that takes a lot,
07:50but the firefighters have to do it.
07:52But what anguish for the firefighters,
07:53because you see that you are turning off the fire,
07:54and that it is still active down there,
07:56which is very distressing.
07:58No, and also the anguish of those, for everyone,
08:01but especially like Carla, who lives there,
08:03surrounded by so much nature,
08:05knowing that the fire is on,
08:07is not recovering it practically more,
08:09or after a long time too.
08:11Well, Carla, we expect more news about this,
08:18and we will also talk about the season,
08:20which surely started today in a very positive way.
08:26Yes, totally.
08:27See you later, Carla.
08:29See you later.
08:33And this is last-minute information,
08:35we also have to talk about fire,
08:37isn't that right, Mercedes?
08:38Exactly.
08:39Attention if you are a user of Tren Roca,
08:41because it is working with limited service.
08:44We are talking about the branches with Ezeiza and Bosques,
08:48which go via Temperley.
08:50As a result of this,
08:51we are seeing a tree that breaks,
08:53one of those branches that catches fire,
08:56and what happened with this branch,
08:58the origin is still unknown,
09:00the important thing is that the firemen
09:02have already put out the fire.
09:04The high voltage cable, right?
09:06Of course, it dragged the cables,
09:08and it also affected a catenary,
09:11which is what is causing the service to be interrupted.
09:14The catenary is the one that supplies energy,
09:16the operation of the train,
09:18that is why at this time they also have a limited service
09:22between Quilmes and La Plata.
09:24So be careful with that,
09:26although the fire is under control,
09:28it is off,
09:29the corresponding tasks are still being done
09:31to resume the service.
09:33They estimate half an hour and 40 minutes.
09:35Let's see, let's confirm these data
09:37and also expand them with Cristian Baglietto.
09:40Cristian, how are you? Good afternoon.
09:42How are you, Javier? Good afternoon.
09:44And it is exactly the information,
09:46the Tren Roca does not arrive or leave
09:49the head station of Constitución.
09:51Look, you are mentioning it,
09:53it is a technical problem,
09:55because a tree fell and touched the catenary
09:57in Temperley,
09:59then we observe the fire,
10:01for this reason they had to cut
10:03the electricity supply,
10:05because otherwise it would be a catastrophe,
10:07because the firefighters have to go to put out the fire,
10:09to put out the fire they have to cut the electricity supply.
10:11Because they cut the electricity supply,
10:14the branch,
10:16this is operating in a limited way
10:18between Temperley and Corn,
10:20the branch Ezeiza with short service
10:22between Temperley and Ezeiza,
10:24and the branch Bosques operates
10:26via Temperley with limited service
10:28between Temperley and Bosques.
10:30In addition, the branch La Plata,
10:32limited between Quilmes and La Plata,
10:34and the branch Bosques via Quilmes,
10:36limited service between Quilmes and Bosques.
10:38Because of this inconvenience,
10:40we say that the Tren Roca does not arrive
10:42or leave the head station of Constitución,
10:44it is believed that in 40 minutes,
10:46an hour, the service
10:48would be working normally, Javier.
10:50Well, it's a big problem
10:52that obviously they don't leave
10:54or get to Constitución,
10:56especially at this time of the afternoon
10:58where little by little that branch
11:00begins to populate with people
11:02who either arrive to work in the afternoon
11:04or others who finish the schedule
11:06and return home, right?
11:08Of course, Javier, you are mentioning it
11:10because many of the people
11:12who have to travel to Avellaneda,
11:14Quilmes, as well as Loma de Zamora,
11:16Lanús, Olón,
11:18they can't take it to Constitución
11:20because all the branches
11:22that enter or leave Constitución
11:24are interrupted,
11:26they are arriving to Quilmes
11:28or to Temperley,
11:30to there, because as this
11:32originated in Temperley,
11:34what they did was cut the electric supply,
11:36by cutting the electric supply,
11:38the catenarias do not have electricity
11:40because of the redundancy,
11:42for that reason the electric part
11:44is cut to Constitución,
11:46so you have to observe what is happening
11:48at Constitución Station
11:50where many passengers
11:52take alternatives,
11:54and what are the alternatives?
11:56The bus stops, if there are many people
11:58on the bus stops.
12:00And with this heat,
12:02much more, and the patience
12:04that obviously we hope
12:06will be resolved quickly there,
12:08in that place.
12:10Thank you, Cristian.
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