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"9 May ka jin logon par ilzaam hai, jo judicial inquiry kyun nahi hui?" Ali Muhammad Khan
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"9 May ka jin logon par ilzaam hai, jo judicial inquiry kyun nahi hui?" Ali Muhammad Khan
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00:00
Ali Muhammad Khan sahab, you must have listened to the press briefing of DJI and SPR.
00:03
One thing that is very important in it is that the case of justice will not be completed
00:08
until Mansoob Asaaz and the real masterminds behind 9th May are punished.
00:16
Now, this statement has come at a time when there will be negotiations on 2nd January.
00:21
Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, are you seeing the matter of negotiations being impacted by this?
00:26
Considering that the establishment is an important stakeholder in Pakistan's case.
00:32
Thank you very much. In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
00:37
Allahumma salli ala Muhammadin wa ala Ali Muhammad.
00:40
This is an important statement.
00:42
I think that DJI and SPR have not repeated this statement.
00:51
This is our demand as well.
00:54
The demand that DJI and SPR are making, they are making this demand now.
01:01
We have been making this demand since 9th May.
01:05
Since Imran Khan sahab was released, I think it was 13th May.
01:08
I was arrested on 11th May, when Khan sahab's case was in the Supreme Court.
01:13
On 13th May, Khan sahab's statement was released.
01:17
Since then, there has been only one statement of Imran Khan sahab and Tehreek-e-Insaf.
01:21
Tehreek-e-Insaf itself demands that the judicial inquiry of this 9th May incident should be done.
01:31
So that whoever has a role in this should come forward.
01:34
But it should be a judicial inquiry.
01:36
It should not be a military trial of civilians.
01:40
It should be a proper judicial commission inquiry.
01:43
And our Mazaqraq has also done an inquiry of 9th May, which is one of our main demands.
01:49
So we are also making this demand.
01:51
But Imran Khan sahab, there has been a response to this.
01:54
The response is that you used to say that this was a false flag.
01:57
This was done by the army itself.
01:59
This was done by the law enforcement agencies themselves.
02:01
The people of the agencies were involved in this.
02:03
So now DJI and SPR have also asked this question that if the people of the agencies were involved,
02:06
then why did we punish the people of our agencies by putting them in the box of justice?
02:12
So why is there a blame on that?
02:13
Why is there a regret on that?
02:14
Why is there a worry on that?
02:16
Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf should be happy that
02:18
Faiz Ameed has been punished for this matter or for intervening in politics.
02:24
As far as General Faiz sahab is concerned,
02:28
we have a clear position on that of Tehreek-e-Insaf that it is an unnecessary matter of the army.
02:34
And there is no need for us to comment on it or say anything.
02:39
But the people who are accused of 9th May,
02:45
why hasn't there been a judicial inquiry yet?
02:48
A high-powered inquiry under the High Court,
02:51
or a high-powered commission under the Supreme Court,
02:54
which should be headed by a sitting judge of the Supreme Court.
02:57
We ourselves are demanding this.
02:58
Ali Mughal Khan sahab, any sitting judge or senior-most judges,
03:02
because your demand so far is that of senior-most judges,
03:05
will it also be accepted that any judges on the side of Ayni Bench should also listen?
03:11
Or some other judges should also listen,
03:14
other than the three senior-most judges you are demanding?
03:19
Look, we are not in favour of judge-shopping,
03:22
but it should be with the senior-most.
03:24
Even in the military, the senior-most are the ones who come forward.
03:31
This is also the case in bureaucracy.
03:33
So if you want to do an inquiry,
03:35
why would anyone want to do it with a junior judge?
03:39
Why not the sitting Chief Justice or his senior-most sit on it?
03:44
Or there is another solution to this.
03:46
Why not full-bench?
03:47
All of them should sit.
03:48
Why can't they sit?
03:50
If they could sit on other issues,
03:52
then this is a very important matter.
03:55
So the PTI, instead of demanding three senior judges,
03:59
if there is a full-bench, then Pakistan will accept your justice.
04:02
That is a very interesting point.
04:04
Until now, there was a demand for three senior judges, right?
04:08
Look, what you said,
04:10
that if someone says,
04:12
you yourself said,
04:14
that the judge should come to the bench,
04:16
we will say that he is the senior,
04:18
he will say this and that,
04:20
someone will say this, someone will say that,
04:22
then everyone should sit in the Supreme Court.
04:24
Everyone should sit and investigate.
04:26
I don't think there will be anything
04:28
that if something blatant comes up,
04:30
why would a sitting Supreme Court judge want
04:33
to put pressure on something that is wrong.
04:35
But what has happened now,
04:37
what has happened in the military courts,
04:39
you tell me, is this justice?
04:41
Trialing civilians and political workers in military courts.
04:44
Military courts are either for terrorists,
04:47
who are jet black terrorists,
04:49
or for the military personnel,
04:51
who have their own internal work,
04:53
I don't have any other work.
04:55
Mr. Ali Khan, that political workers thing,
04:57
you are right that they are political workers,
04:59
but here the line becomes very grey,
05:01
if they attack the security institutions,
05:03
are they just political workers,
05:05
or do they comply with the definition,
05:07
where the terrorists work,
05:09
do they comply with the definition?
05:11
This is a grey area at this time,
05:13
either clarify this grey area,
05:15
by sitting in the parliament,
05:17
because it will not be clear in this way,
05:19
that they are just political workers,
05:21
but whenever the political workers want,
05:23
they can attack the security institutions,
05:25
make a claim.
05:27
Look, I don't think anyone has attacked,
05:29
or protested,
05:31
and some people have accessed the protest,
05:33
there is no denying that.
05:35
Who can tell anyone,
05:37
to go and set fire,
05:39
the one who set fire is wrong,
05:41
the one who broke the bodies,
05:43
the replicas,
05:45
whoever did it is wrong,
05:47
who is defending that?
05:49
The point is not this,
05:51
the point is that at the end of the day,
05:53
these are civilians,
05:55
these are political workers,
05:57
the military courts are closed for terrorists,
05:59
we are often asked this question,
06:01
we are often asked,
06:03
that in your time too,
06:05
civilians were punished by the military courts,
06:07
absolutely,
06:09
who can tell,
06:11
was there a worker of Nood League,
06:13
People's Party, ANT, Jamaat-e-Islam,
06:15
or Jamaat-e-Islam?
06:17
The government often answers this,
06:19
Ali Muhammad Khan says,
06:21
did any of our workers ever go and
06:23
make a claim on a security institution?
06:25
I am just trying to understand,
06:27
because there is another response to this.
06:29
We are not here to have a political debate,
06:31
the People's Party or Nood League,
06:33
I will answer them,
06:35
my point is,
06:37
my point is,
06:39
if you ask me,
06:41
tell me,
06:43
did we ever make a claim on security?
06:45
Did we ever kidnap a PIA?
06:47
Did we ever attack the Supreme Court?
06:49
Did we ever,
06:51
like the Chief of Army Staff,
06:53
he was saying,
06:55
take him with you,
06:57
he will not go to Pakistan.
06:59
Did we ever kidnap a PIA?
07:01
This will go far,
07:03
we are not even talking about it.
07:05
My point is,
07:07
the civilians who were punished in our time,
07:09
they were terrorists,
07:11
a terrorist does not come in a uniform,
07:13
he also wears a sherwar shirt,
07:15
he was a civilian,
07:17
they are political workers,
07:19
they are the future of the nation,
07:21
they are your own children,
07:23
and second thing,
07:25
I am saying this for the fourth time,
07:27
if you pick up a gun
07:29
and attack our rangers,
07:31
police, military,
07:33
our armed civilians,
07:35
if you could talk to them,
07:37
if you could talk to the terrorists,
07:39
you did not do the dialogue,
07:41
which was done by Mr. Safdar.
07:43
Mr. Ali Muhammad Khan,
07:45
let's go to the Balochistan side,
07:47
but there is a problem with the dialogue,
07:49
that terrorism ended in 2021.
07:51
My argument is other,
07:53
I am saying that,
07:55
when the Corps Commander Peshawar
07:57
wore a Guldistani uniform,
07:59
there was no dialogue,
08:01
if you could talk to them,
08:03
why are you being so strict
08:05
with your own children?
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