Ali Muhammad Khan reacts to Aleema Khan's claim regarding Imran Khan's release

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00:00You are intermingling two things.

00:06It was an internal matter of the party that Mr. Khan's direction through Barrister Gauhar reached all of us.

00:13Barrister Gauhar is the chairman and Mr. Khan has made him.

00:17None of us made him. He is the junior of all of us in terms of the party.

00:21The rest are big lawyers, but he is the junior of all of us in the party.

00:25But we respect him because Mr. Khan made him the chairman.

00:29Through Barrister Gauhar, he gave us this information to the political committee.

00:33On 26th November, before the operation in the night, in the afternoon,

00:37he had already passed the information that Mr. Khan has given permission to Sanjani.

00:42Now, whether Sanjani stopped there or not, whether D-Chowk should have gone or not,

00:47this is a very big debate.

00:49But my fundamental position on this is that if Sanjani did not stop and D-Chowk came,

00:55then the day before yesterday, I had spoken outside Adyala Jail,

01:00that whether D-Chowk is more sacred than the Kaaba, God forbid,

01:06that no one can come there. We came.

01:09It was a mistake. The law was broken. Let it be broken.

01:12Look, you did excessive use of force. You shouldn't have done that.

01:17Why should someone be martyred from here?

01:19You should not throw anything away by talking about the past.

01:22Look, he is the Prime Minister. He just can't jerk it off.

01:26He just can't say that you are the Prime Minister.

01:28That's exactly what I am saying. I am also asking the government, Mr. Ali,

01:31that can't you throw this thing away and move forward?

01:33That's why I am also asking you that what happened,

01:36can't it be thrown away and moved forward?

01:38PTI has to introspect about this.

01:40Because today, Ms. Aleema Khan also said that the government said that you should sit in Sanjani.

01:44We will release Mr. Imran Khan in a few days.

01:47If what Ms. Aleema Khan said is correct,

01:50then for the release of Mr. Imran Khan,

01:53the protest that PTI was going to hold,

01:56was being held in a plate.

01:58If what Ms. Aleema Khan is saying is correct,

02:00then shouldn't PTI have taken that offer immediately?

02:08Look, that's why I didn't emphasize the point of Sanjani.

02:13I have also told Mr. Gohar Bai and Mr. Barrister.

02:17I have also told them.

02:19They are a bit ungrateful.

02:21We say something harsh,

02:23they don't mind.

02:25Allah has given them courage.

02:27I have told them.

02:29Because 25th November,

02:31these dates are very important.

02:33Ms. Aneeka, if you keep these dates in mind,

02:36that 22nd November,

02:38two days before the protest started,

02:40at the direction of the political committee,

02:43the five of us,

02:45me, Sardar Koh, Mr. Barrister Gohar,

02:48Salman Akram Raja and Mr. Rauf Hassan,

02:51we went to meet Mr. Khan to talk to him.

02:54If there is a government issue,

02:56and it is possible for Mr. Khan to be released,

02:59if there is such a thing,

03:01then don't postpone the protest,

03:03but on hold it for a week or two.

03:06Or if there is a maximum,

03:08then sit in the vicinity of Islamabad.

03:11They didn't let us meet.

03:13Look, someone knew why we were coming.

03:16Maybe someone wanted this to happen.

03:19I am talking very harshly.

03:21Otherwise, why didn't we let the five of us meet?

03:24We wanted the issue to be resolved by discussion.

03:27Our goal is the release of Mr. Imran Khan.

03:30Our goal is the release of prisoners.

03:32Our goal is the return of the mandate.

03:34The protest is not a goal.

03:36The protest is a means to an end.

03:39That is, the release of Khan.

03:41They didn't even let us meet on the 22nd.

03:44On the 25th, when the protest was in full swing,

03:47it was very difficult for me to reach Diyala Jinn.

03:50It was not easy.

03:51I had to bring it to Judaism.

03:53I came out of the police and reached.

03:55Two of our people were allowed,

03:57but I was still not allowed.

03:59That day, Mr. Gohar was told by Mr. Khan

04:01to sit in the vicinity.

04:03If Mr. Gohar had given a press talk that day,

04:06it would have been clear.

04:08There was no need to go after anyone.

04:10Mr. Ali Mahmood Khan also made it very clear

04:12that this message had already come

04:14that Mr. Imran Khan would be released.

04:16If he is saying the right thing, then...

04:18I will tell you.

04:20Mr. Ali Mahmood Khan also asked me another question.

04:23The civil disobedience has also started.

04:25You have talked about civil disobedience.

04:27You have talked about it a couple of times.

04:29Let me make one thing clear.

04:31I am a political worker of this Jamaat.

04:33I am not from today.

04:35It has been a long time.

04:37I rarely comment on the policy of family members.

04:40Mr. Ali Mahmood Khan is very respectable for me.

04:43He knows this.

04:45When Mardan came to Namal in 2015-16,

04:48I was like an elder sister to him in fundraising.

04:51He is very respectable.

04:53I do not comment on his words.

04:55But this is now in the public domain.

04:57That is why I am talking about it.

04:59Mr. Gauhar says that

05:01if you want to sit with Sanjani, then sit.

05:04Mr. Gauhar does not need to lie.

05:06All these things have happened.

05:08You said that you want to talk about it.

05:10I will talk about it again.

05:12The real thing is that whether Sanjani sits or D-Chowk,

05:15was it right to shoot?

05:17If we sit with Sanjani...

05:19It is Newton's law, Mr. Ali Mahmood Khan.

05:21Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

05:23Should it have gone on or not?

05:25It should not have gone on in any form.

05:27And the government is saying that it has not gone on.

05:29So it is your word versus the government's word.

05:32But the question is that

05:34now there is talk of civil disobedience.

05:36Mr. Ali Mahmood Khan.

05:38Listen to me.

05:40I understand your point.

05:42I understand your point.

05:44Not a single soul...

05:46Not a single soul should have gone,

05:48whether it is to the PTI,

05:50to the rangers, to the police.

05:52Everyone's life is precious.

05:54And everyone is their own child.

05:56Whether it is the PTI or the law enforcement agency.

05:58My question is civil disobedience.

06:00Now I have heard,

06:02and I have spoken to many PTI leaders off the record.

06:06PTI leaders are not considering civil disobedience

06:08to be practical.

06:10Do you think that

06:12after two weeks,

06:14on the 14th,

06:16there will be an implementation

06:18on the civil disobedience call?

06:23Look, one thing is this.

06:26We have two or three big forums of the party.

06:28One is the core committee, which is the biggest forum.

06:30The other is the political committee,

06:32which is its sub-committee.

06:34This is a parliamentary party,

06:36which has MNAs and senators.

06:38My colleagues are witnesses to this.

06:40You can ask them.

06:42Even in front of Mr. Khan

06:44and in the party,

06:46I openly give my opinion.

06:48Because I think

06:50that there can be no greater hypocrisy

06:52than not telling your leader

06:54what you think is good for him and the party.

06:56But those discussions are held

06:58in the internal forums of the party,

07:00not in the public domain.

07:02So are you saying that

07:04civil disobedience is really not right?

07:06Is this what you are saying?

07:08No.

07:10There has been a discussion on this.

07:12The final decision of Mr. Imran Khan

07:14will be obeyed by the party.

07:16What do majority party leaders think, Mr. Ali?

07:18Is it right or wrong?

07:20Look, it is not necessary to say that here.

07:22I think that

07:24this is a sign of a living community

07:26that things should be discussed

07:28and there should be a pro and contra debate

07:30about what should be done and what should not be done.

07:32Because at the end of the day,

07:34everyone's wish is the same.

07:36That the party should be better

07:38and Mr. Khan should be released.

07:40For that, everyone's thinking can be different.

07:42Some say this way,

07:44some say that way.

07:46This is not a peaceful party

07:48where there is a dictation.

07:50When the final decision is made,

07:52Mr. Khan's direction comes

07:54and the party totes that line.

07:56Look, I want to talk about the question

07:58you asked about him.

08:00We are all talking about

08:02civil disobedience in the media.

08:04I am not talking about this at all.

08:06That is for later.

08:08Mr. Khan has made a committee

08:10for dialogue.

08:12Unfortunately, time is up.

08:14But we will discuss on another issue.

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