00:00I remember in the moment asking myself, am I okay?
00:03People are taking the lyrics of Defying Gravity and really holding space with that and feeling
00:16power in that.
00:18That's really powerful.
00:20I was surprised because I was like, I had no idea because I haven't been looking.
00:23I mean, it's been happening on some level.
00:25She's like, well, yeah, I mean, I guess.
00:27I mean, I guess.
00:28I've seen it.
00:29That's really powerful.
00:32I had no idea that this thing was going on.
00:35I didn't know that that was happening.
00:37So I didn't know what any part of it meant.
00:40That's really powerful.
00:42I didn't understand the first sentence.
00:46I've seen this week people are taking the lyrics of Defying Gravity and really holding
00:52space with that and feeling power in that.
00:55And then I definitely didn't understand what was happening, how you responded.
01:01I was like, oh, what did she say?
01:03What did you hear?
01:04And I just wanted to be there because I knew something big was happening and I didn't know
01:08how to be there.
01:09I didn't know that was happening.
01:14But then after a while, I didn't know how to be there.
01:18That's why I wanted.
01:23She said something that meant something to her.
01:27It meant something totally different to you.
01:29And then she tried to kind of get somewhere else.
01:34And the craziest thing was, I remember in the moment asking myself, am I OK?
01:40Did I not hear something?
01:42I was like, am I?
01:43I was like, she looks like she's about to cry again.
01:45And I'm going to grab this because I think you might need something.
01:48And I don't know what the tapping was about.
01:50But tension.
01:51Tension.
01:53Yeah, that happened.
01:54I was like, oh, shit.
01:55Something's happening.
01:56She had said that she was seeing it because she was in queer media.
01:57You know, I am in queer media.
01:59And I was like, I honestly didn't know what that meant.
02:04And am I also in queer media, maybe?
02:07Great.
02:08Work.
02:09Let's both be there.
02:10It was so beautiful.
02:11I just am glad.
02:12I feel really relieved that the world had the same experience with this moment that
02:16I did because I felt like, oh, I'm not broken.
02:19I do love how the world has like gone with it.
02:22I felt so relieved.
02:24My favorite is the gay men's chorus singing, we're really holding space for that.
02:28Really holding space with that and feeling power in that.
02:32I haven't seen that.
02:33I love that one.
02:34It's so good.
02:35It's really great.
02:36Yeah, well, I've seen it.
02:37I've seen it on a couple of posts.
02:38And also just like articles.
02:39I mean, yeah, well, I've seen it.
02:44That's the craziest part for me.
02:45It's good.
02:46I love that it's become vernacular now, which is really fun that people are constantly saying
02:50we're really holding space for that.
02:51I want a t-shirt with holding space on that.
02:54That's when you knew it was something.
02:56When the next day, Evan Ross Katz texted me and was like, do you want this shirt?
02:59I got two for you.
03:00What?
03:01He has a shirt?
03:02Is there a shirt?
03:03He has.
03:04I need it.
03:05Please can I have it?
03:06It's on its way.
03:07Thanks to Evan Ross Katz.
03:08Oh my gosh.
03:09I was like, oh, what's that?
03:10Oh, perfect.
03:11The best thing to do is, is really to hold space with that.
03:15During that interview, I was in the other room.
03:16Hilarious.
03:17No idea.
03:18It was brilliant.
03:19The world was changing.
03:20He felt a magical vibe.
03:21I did feel.
03:22I was like, something's happening over there.
03:24My finger is itching.
03:26It now is like vernacular.
03:29I love that because you're feeling my vibes.
03:34That scratches the itch.
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