00:00You said it right. Those two young men walking over there are two boys, not even young.
00:06One is 14 years old, the smallest, the one in dark clothes.
00:10The other is 15, the one in the light blue jacket, if you like, or light blue.
00:16They arrived at a house, climbed from the outside, managed to enter through the upper floor,
00:25and found there a 69-year-old man.
00:29A quiet, peaceful neighborhood, apparently.
00:32Today someone will tell me what a quiet neighborhood is.
00:35Yes, of course.
00:36In terms of marriage, the woman was in the back, look at the houses.
00:40Neighborhood houses, with a garden, all with bars, all with bars.
00:44Yes, that doesn't work.
00:45Yes.
00:46It doesn't work either, look.
00:48No, no, no, because at the end of what I'm going to tell you,
00:51she was in the back, in the sink, doing what sometimes has to do with household chores.
00:58She hears noises, jumps over.
01:01The noises came from the upper part, a two-story house, and that's where they go.
01:07Minutes later, they hear screams.
01:10Some neighbor who may also presumably see someone escaping,
01:14running away, through some meadow, through some roof.
01:17Yes.
01:18And the neighborhood alarms start ringing.
01:20Behind the neighborhood alarms comes the real alarm for what had happened.
01:27Two minors had entered.
01:29Yes.
01:30They found this man, who must have woken up.
01:34They try to reduce him, obviously with clear intentions of theft.
01:39And we found out today, while we were watching his cell phone,
01:42from the mouth of his own daughter, that the result of the autopsy showed that he had been asphyxiated.
01:48And he appeared handcuffed, with the tie of a robe.
01:53And so he had to find him.
01:55It's incredible.
01:56The widow hour.
01:57It's incredible how such young boys, 14, 15, suddenly commit such a savage murder.
02:06Let's hear what the daughter of this retired man who was murdered by minors aged 14 and 15 said.
02:12They tied him up.
02:14And I don't know why.
02:16They asphyxiated him.
02:17Because I don't think he could have defended himself if he was tied up.
02:20They cut him.
02:21He had a cut on his leg.
02:22A cut, a cut of a white weapon.
02:24A clean cut.
02:28And...
02:30And I don't know, I don't know, I don't know how much money they must have taken from him.
02:33Had they suffered before another crime?
02:37Had they been robbed?
02:38No.
02:39No, no.
02:40They took out the garbage with constant fear.
02:42They took out the garbage with fear.
02:44There was an anti-panic button.
02:45All the neighbors have anti-panic.
02:47The neighbors practically live in prison here.
02:49And that's the worst problem.
02:51The worst of all is that I travel and I was always worried about them.
02:56It's because they went out to throw the garbage with the pepper gas.
03:01And they did a whole, I don't know, they have a prevention system
03:07to be able to take out the garbage at night and that nothing happens to them.
03:10And they ended up entering the house with so much evil.
03:15Because, unfortunately, I can't believe it.
03:20I was hoping that at least my dad would have died of a heart attack and not that he would have been killed.
03:25And these sons of bitches killed him.
03:27Yes.
03:28They suffocated him.
03:30They killed him.
03:31And lately, since Monday, which is a nightmare.
03:33It's incredible how sometimes you see it on TV.
03:35And you see it so far away.
03:37And when it happens to you, you feel like you're in a movie.
03:39Honestly, it's very sad.
03:41It's very sad.
03:42And if Flor is talking now, it's because, honestly, no one wants this to happen again.
03:47And you want to go out and tell the truth.
03:49Because they are kids from here, from the neighborhood.
03:51It's a dangerous neighborhood.
03:52And the worst of all is the fear of the people.
03:54That these kids are going to come back in and they are going to leave.
03:56Because justice is unfair.
03:58That's the worst of all.
03:59Let's see.
04:00We thank our colleague Flor Ducatelli, who made this dramatic note.
04:04Where, if you look, it's about some neighbors who walked a couple of blocks
04:14and ended up killing a man who was over 70 years old in the most brutal way.
04:18These people had to go out to get the garbage with pepper spray.
04:22That's why I asked Gray, who is the conurbano.
04:26What about security, Pablo?
04:28It's a problem for the tenants who are going to have to face all this.
04:36The issue of security, beyond the national government.
04:39Because then the neighbors will charge them.
04:40Beyond the provincial government.
04:42But I also wanted to tell you something, Pablo.
04:45The problem, when you say that justice is unfair, there is a part that is right.
04:52Because you cannot not give answers to the relatives of the victim of what happened,
04:58because they are minors.
05:00And I clarify that I am in favor of the 16-year-old,
05:05because UNICEF has as 16 years the age of imputability for a person.
05:11But we have to do something with this, Pablo.
05:14Because, as they said, they are going to come in and they are going to leave, because they are minors.
05:18We are not going to give them an answer, not even in a trial for the truth,
05:21to see what happened, why they did it.
05:24They are not going to have a trial.
05:26So, something as a society, beyond a prevention campaign of 5-year-old boys.
05:33We have to start with the 5, the 6, the 7.
05:36Now, look, Fito.
05:38It's incredible that you tell this.
05:40It is that, in addition, one of them had a record for attacks and robberies, Bobby.
05:46Yes, one of the two. The youngest of the two had a record.
05:49You look at the situation.
05:5014 and 15 years old, who currently have, with the current law,
05:53a different criminal treatment than if they had more than 16.
05:56There they have them on the screen.
05:58The work is done by the police.
06:00Immediately, he monitored the cameras and identified one of the two.
06:03The one they see more to the left, with a football shirt, with black and white sticks,
06:08is the 14-year-old.
06:10The other is the 15-year-old.
06:11The 14-year-old, there, is the one who had records.
06:15In April, he had committed a crime that, in principle,
06:18should be classified as an attempted robbery by armed hands.
06:22But by armed hands, what details does he have afterwards?
06:24In addition to age, in addition to age and inimputability,
06:27is that the weapon was a replica.
06:30So, this also made the difference.
06:35Now, that weapon was a replica.
06:37What they did here, with this man, was directly suffocate him.
06:41The one on the left, 14 years old, with records.
06:43The one on the right, 15.
06:44The one on the left, they identify him by the cameras,
06:47and it turns out that he lives meters away from his victim.
06:51The victim lives meters away.
06:53The other was arrested in Gleu.
06:55Let's say the case is solved, but there is no justice.
06:59Paradoxically, the case is solved, but there is no justice.
07:02The daughter, who we just saw her speak deeply,
07:04moved, saying,
07:05I was hoping that my father, at some point,
07:07would die in a bed of a heart attack,
07:09not in a bed suffocated by two minors
07:12who enter through the window, through the balcony,
07:14or through some part of the house,
07:15and violently murder him,
07:17and leave him tied up with the rope.
07:19And we can say the same about the band of the million,
07:23who also killed a big man on the hill of San Isidro,
07:27and who, after killing, stealing, and torturing,
07:30with the cables, with which sometimes,
07:31when we run out of battery,
07:32we make a bridge between two cars,
07:34and so they torture their victims.
07:36After doing that, with that money,
07:3812, 14, 15-year-olds go to a shopping mall to buy clothes,
07:41they go to a flea market to dance,
07:43and I give concrete examples,
07:44I don't say it figuratively,
07:46the last ones were stopped,
07:48one in a flea market in Antorcuato,
07:50going to dance,
07:51when he was going to the bar to serve himself a drink,
07:53and others were stopped buying with dollars,
07:55with dollars,
07:56they arrive in a clothing store,
07:5812, 14-year-old boys,
08:00with dollar bills,
08:01nobody pays attention to them,
08:03well, this is what this situation leaves us.
08:05Unfortunately,
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