00:00The reason why, for example, others are being isolated, or they're acting out,
00:06whether as bullies, or they're being exposed, or they're being vulnerable as potential victims,
00:11is because they're in an environment where if you're different, you're weird.
00:16It's like there's a judgment when you're different.
00:21But actually, that's something to think about, right?
00:24In our school environment, in our neighborhoods,
00:26not to celebrate differences, and to celebrate diversity,
00:30because there are studies that show that bullies sometimes have undetected or untreated learning disabilities, difficulties,
00:40and because they feel like they're different, they will overcompensate.
00:44It's like, I don't want to be seen as weak, so I'll go first.
00:48What are the appropriate ways of influencing your peers, right?
00:52If you really have a need, like, I don't want to be bullied,
00:55but Michelle, I want to, I have power, right?
00:58There are appropriate ways to do that, like how to make friends, how to be kind.
01:03Being kind to each other gives us social capital, the social currency.
01:08So instead of gaining power via aggression, hostility,
01:12you can belong in a way that doesn't hurt other people.
01:20So, wow, wait a minute.
01:22It's like taking a step back because, whoa, that's a big need for a solution.
01:27And yet, I can imagine, that's what we should all do.
01:31We work together.
01:32Parents, teachers, and maybe it's also important to assure them that you don't lose justice.
01:40Yes.
01:41Because it's not expelled.
01:43And maybe, Doc Anna, what I heard from their desire to have accountability,
01:50to have someone to blame,
01:53it's like they also want, because their child was hurt, to be punished.
01:57Actually, the punishment alone doesn't really resolve bullying.
02:02Okay, let's say that your child will be punished for bullying.
02:07But possibly, it can temporarily stop the bullying.
02:12But it doesn't really address the root cause of the problem.
02:15That's why we are really advocating that our campaign should be school-wide in terms of awareness.
02:23We have to really tap our teachers, our teaching personnel,
02:30all essential people in the lives of our students.
02:34And also the parents.
02:35It's not just that they need to be blamed or that we need to see someone accountable.
02:44Because when we focus on punishment,
02:48we somehow stigmatize the bully who is bad.
02:53And this can worsen their mental health status.
02:57That, as a start, there is a problem.
03:00Because as I said, there are unresolved issues.
03:04Their only way is to do bullying to release those issues.
03:08And also, if we focus on punishment alone,
03:12that can further resentment the cycle of aggression.
03:16So it doesn't help us build up the empathy, the kindness that we want in school.
03:23I understand, that's how we approached it before.
03:27But this is a new, as you said, there is cyberbullying.
03:31The dynamics are different compared to the bullying before.
03:34So we need a new approach to address the changes in the dynamics of this bullying.
03:41That's why we are really advocating for an inclusive school culture,
03:46utilize empathy, focus on solutions,
03:49and then help us establish the services that are needed for this.
03:56And as you said, it's right that it's not just the teacher,
04:01the accountable, not just the school administrator,
04:04but everyone in this environment where bullying happens.
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