00:00I come to take charge, to face it, because I did not give a quorum,
00:07and that does not mean that I am an enemy of the people.
00:11Gentlemen, I see so much hypocrisy towards the Argentine people,
00:17I see so much pain,
00:21I can't believe that both on one side and the other
00:27are laughing at the illusions of so many.
00:31I don't answer to Macri, I don't answer to Cristina,
00:35I don't even answer to the executive because they fired me.
00:39I am alone, facing it.
00:43You know what? I have nothing to hide.
00:47I am clean, I am free of all contamination.
00:53I don't owe anything to anyone.
00:56That's why I think that this issue of clean record should be expanded.
01:02The issue, gentlemen, is that many invent causes for you,
01:08they put false evidence on you.
01:10No one thought about the evidence invented by artificial intelligence, for example.
01:16For example, with 15 seconds of your movements and a little of your voice,
01:22they could invent a cause for you.
01:25There are many who lock you up so that you can't continue in this career.
01:30They frustrate you, and they have frustrated the illusions of many.
01:35Gentlemen, I think that here, what they should think
01:40is about the retiree who is waiting to collect a little more,
01:46to collect his judgments,
01:50a veteran of war who has been waiting for the historical resurgence for years,
01:56and you can't even give me a little more increase.
02:03Gentlemen, you are all hypocrites, and I am not ashamed to say it,
02:10because I am liberal, libertarian, and I don't hide my face from anyone.
02:17How many times have I spoken here about morality, about family?
02:21How many times do they tell us what we have to say, for example, in a church?
02:26Pastors who become rich with the money of the poor,
02:31and here they are telling us that they can't get involved,
02:34they can't even follow a law.
02:38Well, Lourdes Arrieta, with a very strong level of intensity,
02:45shouting at everyone, they are all hypocrites.
02:49This is a congresswoman who had entered for freedom of the press,
02:52then she broke, it was part of that excursion towards contact with the detainees,
02:59condemned by the law of humanity.
03:01Was it true or is it artificial intelligence?
03:03No, no, Javi, this was true.
03:05It looks like a joke inside.
03:07She was very excited.
03:09She was broken, Cata, directly.
03:11Marcelo, it was also a particular moment, I imagine, right?
03:14Yes, yes, it was both.
03:16It was the moment of López, who also spoke in the enclosure,
03:19and who increased them directly to the official block of Libertad Avanza
03:24for the lack of 8 or 9.
03:27You have to do the math well.
03:28There are 8 or 9 missing.
03:30Marcelo, there are 8 plus Lourdes Arrieta, who is also a libertarian,
03:35although she is out of the block.
03:36In total, there are 9.
03:39Well, perfect, there are 9 then.
03:40Well, but I was telling you, around 10.40, López,
03:43perhaps the hardest moment in the enclosure,
03:46and then this one, 11.43, Lourdes Arrieta,
03:49who, as Facundo would have said, was the news this year,
03:52because after visiting the repressors in Ezeiza,
03:54she never cried again, then they kicked her out of the block,
03:57she said, I'm alone.
03:58Well, she started crying there, directly, in the enclosure.
04:01Well, we'll have to see what kind of pressures she has
04:04and why she is like this, right?
04:06I have to...
04:08I have to contemplate that, I think, Marcelo.
04:12I wanted to tell you,
04:13the round of deputies' speeches is over.
04:16It has already ended, directly.
04:18Well, I'll stay, if you agree, Marce, with you,
04:20because there, in the corridor, there will be news.
04:23If anyone stops there, we'll call you.
04:29Yes, yes, yes, yes, we are attentive here.
04:31If someone comes here to speak,
04:33we'll have it live, of course, on the 24th screen.
04:36And if you give me a minute, we'll see if there's anyone...
04:38Marcelo, sorry.
04:39...to whom we can put the air.
04:41I'm not a political journalist, like Cata and Pablo,
04:47and so many others.
04:48But the truth is, if I put myself on the side of the common people,
04:52they don't vote for a clean sheet.
04:54They don't sit down to debate.
04:56They vote behind people's backs, Javier.
04:58They won't elaborate.
04:59I think this is a dome, a capsule,
05:02in which they say, look...
05:04No one gets in here.
05:05If you fall, I'll fall too.
05:06Exactly.
05:07So, let's kick him out, let him go forward.
05:09Look, it's a key reading with a lot of common sense,
05:12and it's what people feel.
05:13Let's continue, because this is clear.
05:15Let's see, if you are condemned, condemned in both instances,
05:19you have your rules.
05:23It's not that if a deputy, as Arreta said,
05:25because then you have to give it to Arreta,
05:27because then it moves him.
05:28Many people who don't understand, say,
05:31No, not poor.
05:32It's a deputy that we all pay him,
05:34and that he already did his thing.
05:36It's the first time he's there,
05:37and instead of educating himself well, he says what he says.
05:39No, and he also charges more than almost all of us.
05:41Yes, well, that too.
05:43What I'm going to say is,
05:45the law of a clean sheet,
05:47putting it together as it should be put together,
05:49with everyone's consent,
05:51has rules.
05:52It's not that they're going to go to a deputy,
05:54to a president,
05:55they're going to denounce him, and that's it.
05:56He's condemned, clean sheet, out.
05:58It has to go through legal processes.
06:00Because then, we don't believe in justice,
06:03or in the denunciation, or in the denunciation.
06:06The problem here is that this law has a name and a surname,
06:10because it was not seen by the deputies of the pro
06:12to talk about a clean sheet,
06:13when Macri was condemned for the issue,
06:15or when he was being investigated,
06:17for the issue of the hearings.
06:19But you're going back, I'm going forward.
06:21Okay, but each one wants...
06:22We already know the disasters that Macri and Cristina did.
06:25But each one wants to see where you put the court,
06:27and I want to see you when my law begins to define...
06:29But they're not giving me the reason why they don't want to vote.
06:31Wait, wait, wait.
06:32They don't want to vote because...
06:33There's a political discussion here.
06:34One, because otherwise it's not understood.
06:35Wait a minute.
06:36Well, let's see.
06:37Complete, Javi Serra, go ahead.
06:38But they don't want to vote, because it's not convenient for them,
06:41because there are people, deputies, senators,
06:44today ministers, before ministers, judges, everything,
06:48who have always lived in the state.
06:50They never had a job to get up at five in the morning
06:54to sign and sign and wait for the salary at the end of the month.
06:59It was always the councilors, or ministers, secretaries,
07:02or deputies, senators, all dependent on the state.
07:05Javi, here the issue is that it is assumed that Argentina,
07:10I raise this, it is assumed, was entering the change.
07:14Yes, well, let's see.
07:15And that I think is the biggest question.
07:17Let's see, are the historical ones always protected?
07:20But guys, call her first.
07:22It is tenaciously coherent, but it is coherent.
07:25Now, those who arrived new, who come accompanied by a speech
07:30or an idea, because if one says speech out there it sounds pejorative,
07:34they come accompanied by a new, innovative intention,
07:38a priori they are a new political force.
07:41Why didn't they go down?
07:44Yes, you are absolutely right, and Javi is absolutely right too,
07:47and I want to add one more angle,
07:49which is that all this would not happen,
07:52this discussion would not be like this,
07:54if there was a justice that works at the end.
07:57Because basically, if the times of justice work,
08:00and you get to a judicial case of hunting,
08:03well, the Supreme Court can also fail in reasonable terms,
08:07and not let Carlos Menem for years with hunting,
08:11then he is free, or what happens with Cristina,
08:14that they say yes or no.
08:15But Fiscalimpia would benefit them then.
08:17Of course.
08:18But the judicial dilation benefits them, because they continue.
08:21Then if they are sentenced, well, 11 or 12 years have passed.
08:24Now, what I also wanted to say is what you were saying, Facudé,
08:28well, supposedly the Argentine society voted a radical change,
08:32voting for my law.
08:34Anyway, Libertad Avanza never made a flag of republicanism
08:39as the pro did.
08:42And Silvia Lospinato, today, talked a little about what you were saying, Facudé.
08:46Well, people did look for change.
08:48You are not representing it in this moment, in this discussion.
08:51Libertad Avanza.
08:52Let me listen to Lospinato.
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