ParaguayVsArgDebate

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1 year ago

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00:00No Barça jerseys, nor where the name of the greatest is reflected, for me, Leo Messi.

00:08Nor Argentina jerseys, nor anything that has to do with the selection to the Biceleste.

00:16Curious, isn't it?

00:17The question today is related to this.

00:21There is the question itself.

00:22Why will they ban Messi and Argentina's jerseys in Paraguay?

00:26They do it for security, a Paraguayan whim, to avoid an invasion of Argentina.

00:36Fernando Ceballos, how are you? What would be your option to vote?

00:40How is everyone healthy? I think for security.

00:42For security?

00:43I wouldn't understand anything else.

00:45And why hasn't it been done before?

00:47Well, it's the only valid excuse I see to ban it.

00:52Why else?

00:53No, there is one more valid, there is one more important still.

00:55Andres Serra, how are you?

00:56I totally agree with the measure.

00:58Klaufer, Ramon, I totally agree with the measure.

01:01And it is to avoid not only the invasion of Argentina, but to respect the house.

01:04The place is Paraguay.

01:05There shouldn't be people with Argentine jerseys in Paraguay.

01:08Yes, that is anti-football for the rest of God's life.

01:11Greetings to you, Ramon Barrenechea, and let's listen to Alfaro.

01:15He himself speaks of what has been said.

01:20I wish I could go to a party.

01:22Now, I don't want that for a jersey we have a focus of conflict where it doesn't have to exist.

01:28Where it doesn't have to exist.

01:30And that the disputes, and that both teams play to death on the field.

01:35We know that there may be a Messi jersey, but tomorrow the Paraguayan, I assure you,

01:40goes with the Paraguayan jersey.

01:42Goes with the Paraguayan jersey.

01:47Where are we getting?

01:48They tell me, I pay my ticket to see the game that I want.

01:52And they tell me, you can't go with the Messi, Barça, or Argentina jersey, and I'm not going.

01:57I'm not going.

01:58Perfectly, that's what they want to do, that they don't go.

02:00I agree because there has been a big problem in Conmebol,

02:04historical, of people who go to the game of their team,

02:07with Brazilian or Argentine jerseys when you face them.

02:09And where is the locality?

02:11Where is the locality?

02:12Not long ago, in Venezuela, it went viral in the Aguacero game,

02:17that fell in the Monumental,

02:19to a person dressed with an Argentine jersey in the middle of a fan meeting,

02:22and they said, no, he can go to the Argentine bar,

02:24in the Argentine bar that they are,

02:26but that in his country you feel that you are the local.

02:29But why do we have to get to that?

02:31Because you are the local.

02:33The players hate it.

02:35The player says, if I go, and I stand in front of my fans,

02:39because my fans are national,

02:41they have the flag of another country,

02:43they feel horrible.

02:45That hurts.

02:46Imagine, Clau, you are a fan of Betis,

02:48and you have friends who go to Betis,

02:50and they are going to watch a game,

02:52and suddenly one of your friends,

02:54because he has a player in Seville,

02:56that he likes a lot,

02:57takes the jersey of Seville.

02:59Let's see, if you are a person,

03:01I think you are going to say, what are you doing?

03:02No, if you are a person, you have rights.

03:04I am Betica, my father is from Seville,

03:06and I went to Sanchez Pizjuan with my father,

03:08without putting on the Seville jersey,

03:10but I went.

03:11And if I go to Benito Villamarín,

03:13and my father comes with the Seville jersey,

03:15well, look, he will put up with the insults.

03:18But this is football for life.

03:20What we have to do is promote more the values of sport,

03:25the values of football,

03:27respect, knowing how to lose,

03:29the little things that we forget.

03:32That's what we have to remember.

03:34But to prohibit the opponent's fan

03:36from accessing a stadium?

03:38No, he can go to the Argentine Bar,

03:40what he can't go to the General Bar or to the Paraguayans.

03:42But why not?

03:43Because the Paraguayan player is going to hurt him.

03:45The Venezuelan player hurts him,

03:46they have said it all his life,

03:47that going to the stadium and seeing someone,

03:49them playing against Brazil,

03:50and seeing Venezuelans dressed up against Brazil,

03:52is not feeling betrayed.

03:54That's a term we say in Venezuela,

03:56it's called a baker.

03:57And what has the selection of Venezuela given Venezuela?

03:59And what has the selection of Paraguay given Paraguay?

04:01And if the Venezuelan or Paraguayan fans

04:03want to support another team,

04:06because it's better in terms of football,

04:08they have every right to do so.

04:10I prefer that they don't go.

04:11They have every right to do so.

04:13We are falling to a point where

04:15this looks like war.

04:17Extreme, extreme.

04:18It's a damn football match.

04:20Let's stop with silly feelings.

04:23In Mexico, before, a Chivas fan

04:25could sit next to the one from America

04:27and nothing would happen.

04:28Today, it's practically impossible

04:30for that to happen because of this.

04:32Exactly.

04:33Enough, enough.

04:34No, and the point is that

04:36it's not just Paraguay or Argentina.

04:38There are already many children

04:40who have seen Leo Messi,

04:42and their dream is to see Leo Messi,

04:44and they love the Argentine star,

04:46and he goes to his city,

04:48and he has his shirt, his shirt,

04:50and why can't he go?

04:52If I had a son,

04:53and my son is from Leo Messi,

04:55and Leo Messi plays here,

04:57why won't my son go with a shirt

04:59from Argentina or Barça

05:01to see his idol?

05:03And from Inter Miami,

05:04who can take him?

05:05Neither.

05:06It's very heavy.

05:07But they can do it

05:08in the fan zone of Argentina.

05:10A few years ago,

05:11the day Venezuela beat Argentina,

05:13there was a banner that said,

05:14Messi, you are a god,

05:15but if you play for Benotinto,

05:16we are atheists.

05:17That's how it feels to play at home.

05:19The idea is that you sit at home,

05:21and that your players don't feel

05:23what they have felt for decades,

05:24of feeling humiliated,

05:25that their compatriots support another country.

05:27Imagine you as a Venezuelan.

05:29But why are you hurt?

05:31They have never gone to a damn World Cup!

05:33At least,

05:35when the day the Venezuelan team

05:37qualifies for a World Cup,

05:39they should feel hurt

05:40because their fans don't support them.

05:41But Paraguay lost,

05:42and the same thing happens.

05:43Yes, but Paraguay hasn't won anything.

05:45Imagine you have a son.

05:47You are Venezuelan,

05:48and Venezuela faces Argentina,

05:50and your son loves Leo Messi.

05:51Are you going to forbid your son,

05:53with the illusion that he has

05:54a seven or eight-year-old child,

05:55whatever age he has,

05:56to go with the shirt

05:58of his idol?

05:59Yes, I wouldn't take him

06:00with the shirt of Messi.

06:01I can take him

06:02to watch the game

06:03and watch Messi,

06:04but that day,

06:05if you go to the stadium,

06:06because you are going to support Venezuela.

06:07If my son wants to go to the game

06:09with the shirt of Sevilla

06:11and with the name

06:12of whoever he wants

06:13behind Jesús Navas,

06:14he should go.

06:15He is a child.

06:16It seems to me

06:17very heavy.

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