00:00Sir, your party and your leader's position is very relevant in today's political scene.
00:06This call that PTI is calling a final call,
00:09what is your stance on this?
00:11Should the PTI be given a chance to protest without obstructing the government?
00:16Or is your advice to PTI and PTI's friends to adopt a legal path instead of a road one?
00:23Or is it an advice to both of you?
00:25My advice to both of them is that if you give such calls without preparation,
00:35then you will face more humiliation.
00:37You gave a call a few days ago and after that, the matter could not be resolved in that way.
00:44So, you have given 10 days time.
00:46In these 10 days, the people in charge do not take full responsibility for such matters.
00:51Because we are political workers ourselves, we know this.
00:54Secondly, if someone protests against the government,
00:56then let him protest because this is his constitutional right.
01:00If he thinks that something is not in accordance with the law and constitution,
01:06and he wants to protest against it peacefully,
01:10then he has the right to protest peacefully and the government should not be obstructed.
01:16But sir, as a result of what you said,
01:19your opinion is that on such a short notice, you gave such a big call,
01:23maybe the result that the PTI is expecting,
01:25even if the government allows the protest,
01:27maybe that result could not be proven for the PTI?
01:31Maybe, I am ahead of maybe.
01:35I mean, you can increase it by 10-20% more than maybe.
01:38I understand as a political worker that those results will not be achieved.
01:46And for that, there is homework.
01:48And even the homework is not complete.
01:50And the interesting thing is that Mr. Arivaz is my brother, he is sitting here.
01:53The thing is that you have never been able to make the opposition a reliable opposition.
01:59You have never been able to trust the opposition on any issue within the parliament,
02:04where you have a presence and where you have to work together.
02:09So when this attitude of yours is within the parliament,
02:12and outside the parliament, you have not been able to trust any party in that way,
02:17then these matters will certainly not give you any benefit, I think.
02:22And ultimately, when they give you such a call and as a result, that call is not successful,
02:28then people, your workers, are disappointed.
02:31Sir, it is not strange that they say in response,
02:33in fact, certainly, and I have no doubt,
02:34but increase it by 20-30% more than doubt,
02:37certainly, they will say in response,
02:38that sir, we have been present at your doorstep again and again,
02:41we have been requesting you to support us in the protest movement as well.
02:45You do not agree, whose respect is fine,
02:47but how did you get more opposition?
02:51You are present in the parliament,
02:54you have given your advice on an issue in the parliament,
02:56till date, you have given your advice on one issue.
02:59For example, the recent amendment, you gave your advice daily,
03:02and what else?
03:03In the recent amendment, we did everything according to your wishes.
03:09The thing is, after that, there are many issues,
03:13in which even before the meeting starts,
03:16when the meeting of the opposition takes place,
03:18you have your own party,
03:20but you have never met with any other party.
03:23You have never made a strategy,
03:24that this issue will come, we will sit and do this.
03:27So, these matters are at a loss.
03:29Sir, I obviously keep an eye as a student,
03:32but I am not familiar with very detailed parliamentary matters,
03:35so are you telling me,
03:36that as the largest opposition party in the parliament,
03:39has the PTI ever held a joint meeting of the opposition in the parliament,
03:44or any such setting in which the other opposition parties are invited?
03:47Has such a thing ever happened in the parliament?
03:49Yes, according to my information, it has.
03:52Very interesting it is,
03:53because many friends of the PTI tell us,
03:56that this movement would have been successful,
03:58if Maulana Sahib had also come in it,
03:59then it would not have been able to stop.
04:01So, I am surprised, if they have so many wishes.
04:03Maulana Sahib is not a rent-a-crowd,
04:06that Maulana Sahib should come,
04:07and when you have a meaning, you should come to Maulana Sahib.
04:10The thing is, as an opposition leader,
04:13have you ever sat in any matter,
04:16or in any issue in the parliament,
04:19or have you trusted any partner,
04:21other than your own party?
04:23Hmm.
04:23And sir, what is your commentary on this?
04:25Just now, coincidentally, you talked about it,
04:27three minutes ago, five minutes ago,
04:28I was asking the same question to a friend of the PTI,
04:30that today is 13th November,
04:3224 calls have been given,
04:34which means that we have to start from 21st-22nd,
04:37which means that six days are left.
04:39So, in such a short time,
04:40how will we create so much momentum?
04:42This is a very obvious thing,
04:43which is in my mind, and in your mind as well.
04:45So, what is your commentary on this,
04:46that why have you given such a big call so quickly?
04:49If I become a little negative in this,
04:52then it can be said that you want to make your call unsuccessful.
04:57Obviously, they won't want that.
04:59Who will have more desire than them,
05:00that their call will be successful?
05:01I mean, after this, this is selfishness, right?
05:04Why do you do such a weak thing,
05:07as a result of which,
05:09your own worker leaves his job?
05:12So, for this,
05:14either it is showing your selfishness,
05:17or you are doing all this on purpose.
05:20For this, there is homework.
05:22For this, even parties…
05:24Suppose, you say, what did the JUI do?
05:27The JUI is not the only party of the opposition.
05:30Which other parties have you gone to?
05:33Or maybe, the emotionality and anger
05:35have become dominant in logic.
05:37The last thing is that, if…
05:40Anyway, your answers have already made it clear.
05:43Still, let me ask you,
05:44if at any stage, today, tomorrow, day after tomorrow,
05:47they request you,
05:48that sir, look, the call has just come,
05:50so don't say that we are getting it by the end of the day.
05:52The call has just come.
05:53We request you to participate in this protest.
05:56Because it's not about PTI, it's about Pakistan.
05:58So, will the JUI not be able to participate?
06:00Will it be difficult?
06:02Look, our leadership is not present at the moment.
06:04So, how can we…
06:06You know, before doing all this,
06:08before giving the call,
06:10you should have thought that
06:11the leadership of the JUI is the one
06:12with whom we can talk.
06:14The leadership of the Jamaat-e-Islami,
06:16the leadership of some other opposition parties,
06:20where is Mr. Akhtar?
06:21Where is Mr. Akhtar Mahengal?
06:22Where is Dr. Malik?
06:23She does all of this.
06:24Then, you have Mahmood Khan Achakzai,
06:26who is the head of your alliance.
06:28He said that, while giving the call,
06:29you trusted him.
06:30You didn't trust him.
06:33I think he is sitting in Quetta,
06:35possibly in Islamabad.
06:36But, I am absolutely sure
06:40that he wouldn't have trusted him either.
06:43And are you surprised by this?
06:45Why didn't you include the other opposition parties?
06:47This is a strange and strange thing.
06:48This means that,
06:49either you are doing all this on purpose,
06:51or you are so impotent
06:53that the common man,
06:56who can think like me,
06:58you don't have the same political intelligence
07:02that you are doing all this on purpose.
07:06I think the other issue is that,
07:07they don't want their call to fail.
07:09It is possible that,
07:09they don't want to show their political intelligence.
07:11You want me to talk about the first one?
07:13No, no.
07:15You have your own opinion.
07:17But, I am fine now.
07:19Thank you very much.
07:21Thank you very much, Mr. Kamran.
07:24This is the situation of all of them.
07:26Very interestingly, Mr. Kamran,
07:27although you know Mr. Maulana,
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