00:00There was a moment when we finished the survey, it's almost like around 5 o'clock in the afternoon,
00:09I was standing on the deck of our survey boat.
00:13All of a sudden you realize that below 30 meters at the seafloor,
00:19there were 828 Allied soldiers there.
00:24That's a big number.
00:27Young people.
00:28Yeah, all young generation, like my son's age, 20 plus years, typically.
00:34Then, you know, where did they come from?
00:36Why are they here?
00:38What happened here?
00:39So that's a very strong curiosity and also a deep, sad feeling about it.
00:47They are so far away from Europe, right in front of our gate.
00:53So there's a touching point you remember.
00:58Those lost lives and the forgotten men.
01:02So when I returned to the shore,
01:06then I heard the only surviving POW, Dennis Morley, who is 98 years old already,
01:17the only alive fisherman who rescued the POW, Mr. Lin.
01:24He is 94 years old.
01:27Then you know the time is critical.
01:30Very short.
01:32I believe that's the last window.
01:35If we don't do anything, we're going to lose all the oral history.
01:41So at that time, I proposed to my friends,
01:44why don't we go rescue the history and go interview to UK and fishing village.
01:54So that's the beginning motivation is to rescue the oral history.
02:01I mean, now, of course, like we live in, you said, we live in peaceful time.
02:07But of course, there is uncertainty for the future and with ongoing,
02:13like at least two conflicts, one being Ukraine, one being in the Middle East.
02:18What was the thing we learned from the lesson of thinking of Lisbon, Morocco or the war?
02:25I think the lesson everybody wants to learn is for any war, there's no winner.
02:33And for people, for normal people, there's no winner.
02:37You know, any war happens, civilians, families, it's the victims always.
02:46Not for the politician, but for the normal people.
02:51Suffer a lot.
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