00:00We are connected to Dr. Rosenfeld, but to be able to talk to her, I'm going to ask you, Luis Bremmer,
00:05if you throw this information again, which left us all stunned.
00:10Yes, two ways that the daughters of Jorge Lanata are analyzing, on the one hand, is the possibility of reviewing
00:17such a scheme of donations in life, because Jorge Lanata is still alive, it must be said,
00:22of his father, and on the other hand, what is the article of indignity as one of the causes
00:27to precisely deny the hereditary possibility?
00:31That's what I wanted to ask Ana, precisely, who knows more about the subject.
00:34Is there any possibility regarding any of the incisions of this article?
00:41Ara, in the donation in life, if Jorge is not aware,
00:45how can a donation in life be made?
00:48There is a chapter. I don't know if we tell it now...
00:52Wait, wait, wait, because Diego... Luis asked a question for Dr. Rosenfeld.
00:57I want to see the doctor, there it is connected, perfect.
00:59Doctor, did you hear what Luis Bremmer said?
01:03I heard what Luis said and I also heard what Cora said.
01:06First, the most important thing is to determine in what current state is Jorge's ability.
01:11Why? Because regardless of that, I say what I said the other day
01:15and I see that Diego Estevez is very clear about it.
01:18One of the ways in which the possibility of using a power also expires,
01:23is not only with the death and revocation of power,
01:26but also with the incapacity of the powerful.
01:30That is to say that if today it is still not known what is the capacity that Jorge has,
01:35because there was not yet that determination of capacity,
01:37today we could not be discussing whether he made donations or did not make donations
01:42in this instance or in this state.
01:45Now, if there is a way to proceed to desegregation with cause of indignity,
01:51as Luis said, and that has to do precisely when the other heirs
01:57consider that the person to whom they intend to desegregate out of indignity
02:02committed some lewd act in honor of the dignity and heritage of the person in question.
02:08That is correct.
02:10It must also be clarified, sorry that I speak everything fast,
02:12but distant from the information they threw out,
02:15that Elba Barcovecchio, in this case, what she has is the profitability of these years
02:21with respect to the property that Jorge had before contracting narcissism with Elba,
02:27corresponds to her as a daughter.
02:30Let me correct a fact that we gave yesterday in this program,
02:35and that is that they have signed a separation of assets after the marriage.
02:41I understand that there is a year to sign that regime to decide
02:45if there will be common assets or if each one will have their own assets.
02:51Well, they signed the separation of assets, and I'll give you one more piece of information so you can answer us.
02:55Why do they tell me that they signed the separation of assets,
02:59that they signed the separation of assets, Nata and Elba Barcovecchio?
03:02Because Elba Barcovecchio bought an apartment that is in her name
03:06after the separation of assets, and that would have been done
03:11so that the apartment that would have been bought in half between Nata and Elba Barcovecchio
03:18would only appear in the name of Elba Barcovecchio,
03:22because Elba Barcovecchio would have told Nata that she wanted that apartment to be left to her daughters.
03:28How did Nata buy that apartment, or at least how did she put half of her share?
03:33With a loan that she would have asked Radio Mitre,
03:38and that to this day would be discounted from her salary receipt.
03:43We are talking about $ 600,000.
03:46The other part would have been paid by Elba Barcovecchio for the sale of her home in Cityville.
03:52When Nata sold that and much more.
03:56But with Jorge Lanata's delicate health, what happens if that loan does not pay off?
04:03And the question for Ross Enfeles.
04:05Can the other daughters report fraud?
04:10I understand her father, who also signed, and Elba Barcovecchio,
04:14because they made a maneuver, a priori illegal, to put that name, that apartment,
04:21on behalf of Elba, when in truth those $ 600,000 would correspond to her,
04:26if fraud is proven, $ 200,000 to Lola and $ 200,000 to Barney.
04:32No, there is no fraud.
04:34There is literally no fraud. Why?
04:36Because the separation of assets agreement also allows to recognize donations that can be made.
04:42So for me the figure that they had to have used,
04:45we are talking about blind people because I do not see documentation,
04:48is that of the donation.
04:50It means that if Jorge donated money to Elba so that she could acquire 50% of this property,
04:58he did not commit any fraud.
05:00That document is not there.
05:02To finish paying that loan to Radio Mitre,
05:07if it is going to be paid with money that belongs to the subsidiary.
05:10Karina Antoniali is writing to me.
05:14The friend of Karina.
05:16What does Karina say?
05:18The apartment is in good family and was bought only by Elvita.
05:28Three sources of the environment of La Nata,
05:31one from within Radio Mitre that tell me that there was,
05:34maybe La Nata spent it on something else,
05:36but that there was a loan request on a date coinciding with the purchase of the apartment,
05:42and that to this day it is unconfirmed.
05:44Yes, exactly.
05:46$ 1,200,000.
05:49Well, two things sound strange to me, Ana.
05:51I don't know if you can answer in summary.
05:53On the one hand, that from a house I understand in Villa Elisa,
05:56in a house that can be very beautiful in the province of Buenos Aires,
05:59buy a unit inside a palace.
06:01And on the other hand, with all due respect for Radio Mitre,
06:04that a company banks you 600,000, 600,000 lucas verdes.
06:08And with La Nata's dedicated health.
06:10That must be saved at some point.
06:12Who was going to take care of it?
06:14But also here the daughters who suspect that their father could have committed a fraud against them.
06:19The truth is that it is very rare.
06:21No, the daughters would know.
06:23I'm not going to talk about the daughters.
06:26And La Nata put $ 600,000.
06:28Now they were also benefited.
06:30The father spends it on whatever he wants, Diego.
06:32It's amoral.
06:34The father spends it on whatever he wants.
06:36It's money.
06:38But it's a fraud.
06:40It's a fraud against the state, against all of us.
06:42I understand.
06:44Just a moment, please, colleagues.
06:46I understand that this information just fell to us.
06:48We are about to do an entire program about these $ 600,000.
06:51Who is going to pay them?
06:53Who is going to pay them?
06:55We will continue on Monday.
06:57I want to say goodbye to Dr. Rosenfele, who is connected from Miami.
07:00Anita, we send you a big kiss.
07:02We'll follow you in the week.
07:04Yes, it's a topic that really has to be seen with a lot of objectivity.
07:09And you don't have to be afraid of anything.
07:11Just see it as it is.
07:13A kiss, Anita.
07:15The house in Granville, which is one of the most expensive places.
07:19Perfect.
07:21Thanks to the people of Las Margaritas for joining us.
07:25They always have everything you need.
07:27Please, Alicia Pedrelli and Luis Ventura.
07:30What is Secretos Veraderos about tomorrow?
07:33I found out five minutes before the air was released.
07:36What is it about?
07:38He's going to find out a little earlier today.
07:40It's the second part of the chapter we gave last week.
07:44It's Jorge Lanata in the hands of God.
07:46The second part.
07:48And it's all his unpublished biography.
07:50Through the work he did.
07:52And through La Cuna Televisión, which is nothing less than America.
07:57It's the only channel that has all of Jorge's video material.
08:02Tomorrow at what time?
08:04Tomorrow at 8 p.m.
08:06It's totally recommended.
08:08I'm going to do it quickly because I have to go to the theater later.
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