00:00Now, how about the death of General Wesley Barayuga?
00:06Tell us the truth about that.
00:08Yes, sir.
00:10I don't know, sir, if you can come up with a theory on this.
00:14No, I'm not very into any theory. I do not want a theory. I want the truth.
00:18Yeah, I am explaining because up to now, it has puzzled me.
00:22After I heard the testimony of General Pinili, that he talked with Usec Kitain and Senator Bongo,
00:30that's when I did my own analysis on the information.
00:37Because in March, when the President announced that I will assume as General Manager of PCSO,
00:44my classmate, Clarence Dongail, texted me.
00:50Clarence Dongail, who is in the Philippines, Mr. Chair.
00:54He texted me, saying,
00:56Oh, you're going to be a PCSO.
00:58He said,
00:59No, it's not a text, it's a call.
01:01You're going to be a PCSO.
01:03Who told you that?
01:05Clarence Dongail.
01:07Clarence Dongail.
01:09At that time, a lot of my classmates were calling me.
01:12I do not know where they were getting my phone number.
01:15I think everybody knows my phone number during that time.
01:18He called me.
01:19He said,
01:20You're going to be a PCSO.
01:22Did you know that your board secretary is involved in drugs?
01:26I said,
01:27Yes.
01:28I said,
01:29Yes, it was just hidden by Class 83.
01:31That's his term to me.
01:33Then I said,
01:35I don't know that.
01:36I said,
01:37He already told a lot of stories.
01:40So what I did, sir,
01:42I relayed it.
01:44That's it, sir.
01:45And he mentioned the name,
01:46the name of General Barayuga.
01:48Yes, he said,
01:49Barayuga, because he reached,
01:51he reached,
01:53he reached,
01:57where General Barayuga was assigned,
02:01and where he was assigned before,
02:03when he was a junior officer,
02:05before he was imprisoned.
02:07So what I did only, sir,
02:08since I don't have the resources to validate or whatever,
02:11I just relayed the info for validation.
02:16It's common knowledge, Colonel Garma,
02:19that you and General Barayuga have some altercations, right?
02:25No, Mr. Chair.
02:26That there are some things that you do not agree on.
02:29No, Mr. Chair.
02:31Okay.
02:32What is that?
02:33Our friendship with General Barayuga is okay.
02:36We don't argue.
02:37We didn't argue, Mr. Chair.
02:39So you do not argue with him as far as the operations of the STL is concerned?
02:44He's not there.
02:45He's the board secretary.
02:47He just handles the board resolutions,
02:50takes notes of the board meetings.
02:52No decision-making, Mr. Chair.
02:54Is it true that you were the one that provided the pictures of Barayuga to Lieutenant Colonel Mendoza?
03:02No, Mr. Chair.
03:03I did not.
03:04You did not provide any picture at all?
03:06No.
03:07No, Mr. Chair.
03:08I did not.
03:09What do you have to say now, Colonel Garma,
03:11that you have nothing to do with the death, with the killing of General Barayuga?
03:19Nothing, Mr. Chair.
03:20Nothing?
03:21Nothing.
03:22So therefore, what Lieutenant Colonel Mendoza said is actually wrong?
03:29Yes, Mr. Chair.
03:32So you are now saying to us here, truthfully, that you have nothing to do with the death of General Barayuga?
03:42Yes, Mr. Chair.
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