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Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović (Vinkovci, 10. rujna 1974.), bivši borac mješovitih borilačkih vještina, hrvatski boksač, kickboksač, K-1 borac, bivši političar i specijalac Antiterorističke jedinice Lučko. U svojoj karijeri ima 38 pobjeda (28 nokauta, 6 predaja, 4 sudačke odluke), 11 poraza (5 nokauta, 3 predaje, 3 sudačke odluke), 2 neodlučene i 1 nevažeću borbu.
2006. je osvojio Prideov Grand Prix, a u 2007. je potpisao za UFC. Svoj dječački san ostvario je 2013. kada je u zagrebačkoj Areni Zagreb osvojio K1 World Grand Prix i time je postao tek 2. čovjek koji drži naslove u K1 i MMA-u. 2014. osvaja IGF pojas prvaka pobijedivši bivšeg olimpijskog pobjednika u judu, Satoshija Ishiija, s kojim je kasnije postao dobar prijatelj i trening partner.
Prvog dana ožujka 2019. godine, zbog zdravstvenih razloga, oprašta se od svijeta borilačkih sportova.
Mirko Filipović rodio se 10. rujna 1974. godine u Vinkovcima. Osnovnu školu završio je 1989. godine u Privlaci u blizini Vinkovaca. Gimnaziju u Vinkovcima upisuje iste godine, a za vrijeme Domovinskog rata treći razred završava u Varaždinu. Četvrti razred završava u svojoj matičnoj gimnaziji u Vinkovcima, gdje je 1993. godine maturirao s vrlo dobrim uspjehom. Nakon završene gimnazije odlazi u Zagreb gdje upisuje Policijsku akademiju. U to vrijeme trenira razne borilačke sportove i sudjeluje na brojnim natjecanjima u zemlji i Europi.
Nakon završene akademije postaje članom Antiterorističke jedinice Lučko. Kako se sve više okretao sportu gdje je postizao sve bolje rezultate, početkom 2000. godine sporazumnim ugovorom odlazi iz Ministarstva unutarnjih poslova RH. Nakon toga prelazi u profesionalne borce ultimate fighta i započinje svoju profesionalnu karijeru.
Mirko svoj početak karijere u borilačkim sportovima započinje u Varaždinu gdje je kratko boravio. Trenirao je karate kod bivšeg ministra unutarnjih poslova Marijana Mlinarića, no nakon toga ubrzo prelazi na boks.
Mirko početak u svijetu boksa započinje u amaterskom boksu gdje ostvaruje vrhunske rezultate uz izvrstan omjer pobjeda i poraza. Od tog razdoblja ostala mu je vrhunska boksačka vještina, kojom je kasnije odskakao od ostalih boraca u kickboksu i u K-1, odnosno na koncu i u mješovitim borilačkim vještinama.
1997. je godine sudjelovao kao hrvatski reprezentativac u superteškoj kategoriji na svjetskom prvenstvu u amaterskom boksu u Budimpešti. Izgubio je u šesnaestini završnice od Rusa Alekseja Lezina na bodove 12:4.
1996., 21-godišnji Mirko Filipović nastupio je na K-1 Grand Prix turniru. Prvo je pobijedio prošlogodišnjeg finalista, Jerome Le Bannera, no zatim biva poražen od poznatog Ernesta Hoosta. Ponovno se vratio za 3 godine porazivši Britanca Ricky "Tank" Nicholsona, no onda je izgubio od švicarca Xhavit Bajramija...
2006. je osvojio Prideov Grand Prix, a u 2007. je potpisao za UFC. Svoj dječački san ostvario je 2013. kada je u zagrebačkoj Areni Zagreb osvojio K1 World Grand Prix i time je postao tek 2. čovjek koji drži naslove u K1 i MMA-u. 2014. osvaja IGF pojas prvaka pobijedivši bivšeg olimpijskog pobjednika u judu, Satoshija Ishiija, s kojim je kasnije postao dobar prijatelj i trening partner.
Prvog dana ožujka 2019. godine, zbog zdravstvenih razloga, oprašta se od svijeta borilačkih sportova.
Mirko Filipović rodio se 10. rujna 1974. godine u Vinkovcima. Osnovnu školu završio je 1989. godine u Privlaci u blizini Vinkovaca. Gimnaziju u Vinkovcima upisuje iste godine, a za vrijeme Domovinskog rata treći razred završava u Varaždinu. Četvrti razred završava u svojoj matičnoj gimnaziji u Vinkovcima, gdje je 1993. godine maturirao s vrlo dobrim uspjehom. Nakon završene gimnazije odlazi u Zagreb gdje upisuje Policijsku akademiju. U to vrijeme trenira razne borilačke sportove i sudjeluje na brojnim natjecanjima u zemlji i Europi.
Nakon završene akademije postaje članom Antiterorističke jedinice Lučko. Kako se sve više okretao sportu gdje je postizao sve bolje rezultate, početkom 2000. godine sporazumnim ugovorom odlazi iz Ministarstva unutarnjih poslova RH. Nakon toga prelazi u profesionalne borce ultimate fighta i započinje svoju profesionalnu karijeru.
Mirko svoj početak karijere u borilačkim sportovima započinje u Varaždinu gdje je kratko boravio. Trenirao je karate kod bivšeg ministra unutarnjih poslova Marijana Mlinarića, no nakon toga ubrzo prelazi na boks.
Mirko početak u svijetu boksa započinje u amaterskom boksu gdje ostvaruje vrhunske rezultate uz izvrstan omjer pobjeda i poraza. Od tog razdoblja ostala mu je vrhunska boksačka vještina, kojom je kasnije odskakao od ostalih boraca u kickboksu i u K-1, odnosno na koncu i u mješovitim borilačkim vještinama.
1997. je godine sudjelovao kao hrvatski reprezentativac u superteškoj kategoriji na svjetskom prvenstvu u amaterskom boksu u Budimpešti. Izgubio je u šesnaestini završnice od Rusa Alekseja Lezina na bodove 12:4.
1996., 21-godišnji Mirko Filipović nastupio je na K-1 Grand Prix turniru. Prvo je pobijedio prošlogodišnjeg finalista, Jerome Le Bannera, no zatim biva poražen od poznatog Ernesta Hoosta. Ponovno se vratio za 3 godine porazivši Britanca Ricky "Tank" Nicholsona, no onda je izgubio od švicarca Xhavit Bajramija...
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00:00:00Good day, dear viewers, the guest of today's show is Mirko Filipović,
00:00:28we don't need to introduce him, Mr. Filipović, welcome.
00:00:31Good day.
00:00:32I heard you came from Disneyland this morning, is it better in Disneyland or Croatia?
00:00:39For me it's better in Croatia.
00:00:41You went because of your son?
00:00:44I promised my son a long time ago, and it turned out to be a good opportunity to take him, so I had to keep my promise.
00:00:49You told me before the show that you went on Friday, but came back today without training.
00:00:55I went on Saturday.
00:00:57You came back today without training, 24 hours without training immediately causes a nervous breakdown.
00:01:03Well, basically yes, that's what my whole life is dedicated to, training, and your whole life consists of training, you can't do without it.
00:01:12I don't mean wrestling training, I didn't do boxing, I came from the airport and went to the gym,
00:01:19ran a few kilometers, did push-ups, deadlifts.
00:01:23You would feel bad.
00:01:25You came back at 12.30, after that on the training show.
00:01:28That's right.
00:01:30We saw you 14 days ago, at 4 a.m., we wouldn't have watched you,
00:01:35then, who saw you, of course, but you didn't live up to the expectations of those who made that little effort.
00:01:43Somehow you were anemic in the last fight, you were not to be recognized, fearful, inactive.
00:01:50You are right, but I regret that I didn't live up to the expectations of the fans, but I regret that I didn't live up to myself.
00:01:59To be honest.
00:02:01It's not about me, it's about myself.
00:02:03I do it all for myself, it's my life, I love it, I appreciate it, I respect people who love this sport,
00:02:09I'm grateful to the people who support me, but it's still my life, and it was the hardest for me.
00:02:14I know that I kicked in the fight.
00:02:16Why is that?
00:02:18I have to devote some time to the search for answers.
00:02:21Why did I, recently, after the Grand Prix...
00:02:25Yes, 4 years have passed since then.
00:02:27Since the Grand Prix, I had...
00:02:29A severe injury left me in all that last year.
00:02:35I had a severe knee injury.
00:02:37All in all, since the Grand Prix, I had up to 4 operations.
00:02:42I mean, 5 with nose surgery, which I had to do.
00:02:46I had 5 operations, and I'm not satisfied, to be honest.
00:02:49Let's talk about this match first, and then we'll discuss the theory of what and how.
00:02:56What do you think now, when you watch this match?
00:02:58Did you watch the match?
00:02:59No.
00:03:00You didn't come?
00:03:01No.
00:03:02You probably remember how it looked.
00:03:03I remember.
00:03:04Why am I asking you that?
00:03:05I heard that, literally, an hour before the match, you were waking up with ice.
00:03:12That you weren't awake.
00:03:15What happened to you?
00:03:17I don't know where that information came from, but it's true.
00:03:20Simply because the match was at 5 o'clock.
00:03:23I simply had a rhythm, and I was dreaming.
00:03:25But that doesn't matter.
00:03:26The match doesn't matter.
00:03:27You have to look for excuses in some kind of sleepiness.
00:03:30So I woke up.
00:03:32So you expected...
00:03:33Your opponent was simply better than me.
00:03:35That night, he was more eager, he was hungry for victory.
00:03:38And that was shown in the fight.
00:03:40Why didn't I want to risk it?
00:03:42I don't know.
00:03:43I have to find the answer to that question.
00:03:45Did I get lazy?
00:03:46Did I get old?
00:03:47Is there no motive?
00:03:48I really don't know.
00:03:49And no one can know that.
00:03:50People can philosophize whatever they want.
00:03:52Yes.
00:03:53Whatever they want.
00:03:55On some pages, even on UFC pages, I noticed,
00:04:00and it could be seen from the look of the transfer itself,
00:04:03that you were looking for a break in the fight.
00:04:05Is that true?
00:04:06That's not true.
00:04:07Is that true?
00:04:08You look at it and you don't like it.
00:04:10No, I wasn't looking for a break in the fight.
00:04:12I got hit in the eye.
00:04:13After that, I didn't see anything.
00:04:15I simply had a bruise in that eye.
00:04:17I didn't see anything.
00:04:18I just turned around.
00:04:19I practically didn't see where my opponent was.
00:04:21I turned around disoriented.
00:04:23I was afraid that something was wrong with my eye.
00:04:25To be honest.
00:04:26I got hit.
00:04:27It hurt me.
00:04:28Suddenly, there was no picture on that eye.
00:04:30It was the left eye.
00:04:31I didn't see the picture.
00:04:32The referee ran in.
00:04:33I looked at him.
00:04:34He started waving.
00:04:35Break in the fight.
00:04:36Is it better to break in the fight?
00:04:37I think so.
00:04:38My eye really hurt.
00:04:39I didn't see.
00:04:40I don't know if it lasted 10, 15, 20 seconds or half a minute.
00:04:43I didn't have a picture on that eye.
00:04:45Maybe it's better.
00:04:46Health is the most important thing here.
00:04:48Although I, as a fighter, have to say that I hate it.
00:04:51I hate to admit that it's better.
00:04:53But you have to be honest in life and say that it's better.
00:04:57In a few interviews, you said that your main motive was money.
00:05:00What is it today?
00:05:02You don't have a motive.
00:05:03The question arises again.
00:05:05While you had a motive for money, you fought as you should.
00:05:09Now that you don't have that motive, you've earned enough.
00:05:12What's next?
00:05:14It's hard for me.
00:05:16They chased me after that fight.
00:05:18I consider myself a fighter.
00:05:20Like all people who perform.
00:05:22A real fighter.
00:05:23It's hard for him.
00:05:24It was very hard for me.
00:05:26I would have explained to Kolok Velovrachan after that fight in the hotel room.
00:05:30And that I will never do it again.
00:05:32That's how much it hurt me.
00:05:34But on the other hand, I'm trying to say that it's not a shame.
00:05:37Shame doesn't stop.
00:05:38I have to find strength.
00:05:40I will try to find strength.
00:05:42To finish that contract.
00:05:43Not because I have to.
00:05:44I have to explain to people who are watching.
00:05:46When a contract is signed.
00:05:47I sign a contract only for exclusivity in the UFC.
00:05:49So I can't go now and do one fight in Japan.
00:05:51One fight in England.
00:05:52I don't know where.
00:05:53Exclusive contract.
00:05:54I promised those people.
00:05:56That I will do two more fights.
00:05:57And I will do those two fights.
00:05:58It will be three.
00:05:59I don't know if it will be four.
00:06:01But I promised myself two.
00:06:03And I will try to do two fights.
00:06:05I will try to find a motive.
00:06:07It wasn't a matter of preparation.
00:06:09It was a matter of the head.
00:06:11It was a matter of the head.
00:06:12Only a matter of the head.
00:06:13Only a matter of the motive.
00:06:14And that's the hardest thing in wrestling.
00:06:16Only one thing.
00:06:17Especially in the ultimate fight.
00:06:18Only a matter of aggression.
00:06:19Who is more aggressive, he will win.
00:06:21And that's how it is.
00:06:22Who starts first, he will win.
00:06:23Because there are practically no gloves.
00:06:25Those are bare feet.
00:06:26In the practical sense.
00:06:27I will allow you to know more about these things than me.
00:06:29But it's not always like that.
00:06:30Who is more aggressive, he wins.
00:06:32Sometimes the smarter one wins.
00:06:33Of course.
00:06:34Who has a defensive tactics.
00:06:35Of course.
00:06:36Not now.
00:06:37Who will fly now, he will win.
00:06:38Of course.
00:06:39Generally speaking, the opponent must be more aggressive.
00:06:40I remember Shane Carvin and Gonzaga.
00:06:41Who crushed Vaso.
00:06:42Gonzaga was more active in the first 40 seconds.
00:06:43However, he was crushed by one hook.
00:06:44In wrestling, unlike all other sports, there is a factor called lucky punch.
00:06:45There is no such thing in tennis.
00:06:46There is no such thing in football.
00:06:47You can't accidentally shoot a goal in the 91st minute or two goals in a row.
00:06:48That's impossible.
00:06:49And here, every second, when two men weigh 110 kilos enter the ring, someone can fall
00:06:50every second.
00:06:51And that happens often.
00:06:52But you can't do that.
00:06:53You can't do that.
00:06:54You can't do that.
00:06:55You can't do that.
00:06:56You can't do that.
00:06:57You can't do that.
00:06:58You can't do that.
00:06:59You can't do that.
00:07:00You can't do that.
00:07:01You can't do that.
00:07:02You can't do that.
00:07:03You can't do that.
00:07:04You can't do that.
00:07:05You can't do that.
00:07:06You can't do that.
00:07:07You can't do that.
00:07:08You can't do that.
00:07:09You can't do that.
00:07:10You can't do that.
00:07:11You can't do that.
00:07:12You can't do that.
00:07:13You can't do that.
00:07:14You can't do that.
00:07:15You can't do that.
00:07:16You can't do that.
00:07:17You can't do that.
00:07:18You can't do that.
00:07:19You can't do that.
00:07:20You can't do that.
00:07:21You can't do that.
00:07:22You can't do that.
00:07:23You can't do that.
00:07:24You can't do that.
00:07:25You can't do that.
00:07:26You can't do that.
00:07:27You can't do that.
00:07:28You can't do that.
00:07:29You said that your inactivity was noticed.
00:07:31You were similar with Chik Kong.
00:07:33And with Icon Zagom in some way.
00:07:35Exactly.
00:07:36You say that you lack that aggressiveness.
00:07:40How do people, for some reasons,
00:07:42you mention that maybe it's because you are too old.
00:07:45But how do top fighters,
00:07:47I will mention only from some similar wrestling sports,
00:07:50fighters like Peter Arts,
00:07:52like Vitaly Klitschko in boxing,
00:07:54who is 38 years old,
00:07:56like Kojtura, who is 46 years old,
00:07:58in the last match with Minotaur,
00:08:00he did three rounds,
00:08:02and he lost to everyone in honor.
00:08:04He was bad, but he was biting.
00:08:06You don't bite.
00:08:07I know.
00:08:08That's the problem.
00:08:10When you are looking for a reason for that,
00:08:14you say that there is a psychological barrier
00:08:17because of entering the cage.
00:08:20How does it manifest itself?
00:08:22That's not the reason.
00:08:24No?
00:08:25No, that's not the reason.
00:08:27I don't know.
00:08:28I don't remember.
00:08:29Is it the reason for the injuries
00:08:31that I had in the last three years,
00:08:33I had five surgeries.
00:08:35Is it a subconscious fear?
00:08:36Maybe I can't control it.
00:08:37Maybe I don't know why.
00:08:38Maybe it's a subconscious fear
00:08:39that I will get injured again.
00:08:40Is it the fear of that operating table again?
00:08:42Is it the fear of rehabilitation again?
00:08:44I don't know.
00:08:45I really don't know.
00:08:46Do you have a fear of knockouts like Gonzaga?
00:08:48No.
00:08:49Many will say that you actually fell after Gonzaga.
00:08:55Look, I allow everyone to have their own opinion.
00:08:58I would ask that those who didn't
00:09:00at least five times,
00:09:01not 5,000 like me or 50,000,
00:09:03but at least five times
00:09:04got tired during the training,
00:09:05didn't fight,
00:09:06but when they get tired five times like me,
00:09:09then they don't comment on what they want.
00:09:11Everyone has the right to have their own opinion.
00:09:13Yes.
00:09:14What is your goal in the sport you do?
00:09:17Your former conditioning coach Jukić said
00:09:20that the most important thing is to set a goal.
00:09:23Have you tried to set a goal?
00:09:25The goal is the title,
00:09:26but now it is quite far away.
00:09:27Yes.
00:09:28What is the goal?
00:09:29There is no goal now.
00:09:31Every fighter at the beginning of his career
00:09:34tries to solve the existence in a certain way.
00:09:36And whoever says otherwise is lying.
00:09:38They are all there to be paid.
00:09:40When did you decide?
00:09:41How many years has it been?
00:09:43It doesn't matter.
00:09:44Stanković didn't have a lot of money,
00:09:46but he needed a little.
00:09:47I'm not asking how much you earned.
00:09:49I know.
00:09:50You had the best fights in your career
00:09:52at the Grand Prix three years ago.
00:09:55You weren't much younger then.
00:09:5735 years in martial arts is not much.
00:10:00That's when I was more motivated.
00:10:02I will shorten the story.
00:10:04I will really try to find a motive
00:10:06to do the contract until the end.
00:10:08I will try to change some things in my training,
00:10:11in the approach to training.
00:10:14There are things for which I know for sure
00:10:16that I made a mistake.
00:10:18It is possible that I will hire a sports psychologist.
00:10:21There is a great possibility.
00:10:23I have already agreed on some ways,
00:10:25some conversations to try to solve the problem.
00:10:27I simply love Stanković.
00:10:29It's not that someone is forcing me to do something.
00:10:32I love it.
00:10:33I started training twice a day when I was a kid.
00:10:36It's hard for people to understand
00:10:38that I can't do without that training.
00:10:40I came from the plane and immediately left.
00:10:42I had to stop so as not to be late for the show.
00:10:44I had to recover.
00:10:45I had to run 3-4 km on the track,
00:10:47do a number of push-ups, push-ups,
00:10:49push-ups, push-ups,
00:10:51run, sweat, get dressed.
00:10:53That's my life.
00:10:54That's my life.
00:10:55I can't make peace with the fact
00:10:57that someone is giving me 100 million dollars.
00:10:59He says, never again.
00:11:01Don't even think about entering the ring.
00:11:03I wouldn't take that money.
00:11:05I can't spend it.
00:11:07Who has ever gone to the grave with himself?
00:11:09No one.
00:11:10I want to live my life.
00:11:12I really love it.
00:11:13I am a fighter from head to toe,
00:11:15I don't want to give up.
00:11:17It's a part of every man's life.
00:11:19To correct you, Pantelij wanted to take you to his grave.
00:11:22We'll send Pantelij.
00:11:24That's it.
00:11:25I am a fighter.
00:11:26I don't want to give up.
00:11:28Even when the mind says one thing,
00:11:30the heart says another.
00:11:32I am like that.
00:11:34I will really try to find a motive.
00:11:36I have been training actively since I was a kid.
00:11:38I trained once a day.
00:11:40Now I will continue.
00:11:42I think I did some things wrong in training.
00:11:45I will try to concentrate more on the training itself.
00:11:49The approach to the fight.
00:11:51Maybe I will try to go two days earlier.
00:11:53I never liked to go a few days earlier to the fight.
00:11:56I always come at the last minute.
00:11:58That's why I avoided the press conference.
00:12:00Because the last day I came,
00:12:02I was afraid of the jet lag,
00:12:04so that the time zone would not catch me.
00:12:06But that's what I want.
00:12:08I just love it.
00:12:09I enjoy it.
00:12:10I can't imagine myself now.
00:12:12I have enough of everything.
00:12:14I have enough of the military way of life.
00:12:16I have been serving in the army for 25 years.
00:12:18Let's say 20.
00:12:20But I have been in training for 25 years.
00:12:22I left elementary school every day.
00:12:24But every day, Stanković.
00:12:26There was no holiday, no Friday.
00:12:28As a boy, without any control,
00:12:30without anyone to guide me,
00:12:32to explain me some principles of training,
00:12:34principles of rest, nutrition.
00:12:36Every day I ran two laps.
00:12:38There is a place in my hometown,
00:12:40it is 5.5 km circle.
00:12:42Every day I ran two laps.
00:12:44That's 11 km.
00:12:46After that, I ran in the rain.
00:12:48My father came to me,
00:12:50sometimes at 12 o'clock.
00:12:52Outside it was minus 10 degrees.
00:12:54Of course, there was no heating.
00:12:56It was closed only on three sides.
00:12:58Sometimes when the wind blows,
00:13:00there is a lot of snow.
00:13:02I cleaned it with a shovel,
00:13:04and I ran like mad.
00:13:06Where did that energy come from?
00:13:08I thought about everything.
00:13:10I will try to start with training again.
00:13:12I will try to find a motive.
00:13:14I will try to remove the mistakes
00:13:16that I have made so far.
00:13:18In the last seven fights,
00:13:20it was catastrophic for me.
00:13:22I won four fights,
00:13:24I lost three fights.
00:13:26It was catastrophic for me.
00:13:28Do you need a coach with authority?
00:13:32Yes.
00:13:34I had a good team.
00:13:36I hope I'm not going to give you a secret.
00:13:38There were people who encouraged you
00:13:40to go to spring training.
00:13:42You tried, but after three days
00:13:44you are bored, so you go back.
00:13:46Don't you have an authority
00:13:48who would tell you this and that?
00:13:50Would you respect them in that way?
00:13:52No, no, no.
00:13:54I will tell you about spring training.
00:13:56I was in spring training.
00:13:58After 13, I really came back.
00:14:00It's more of a shame than a benefit.
00:14:02That's how I function.
00:14:04I can't.
00:14:06First of all, the food was catastrophic.
00:14:08First of all, the accommodation.
00:14:10Not the accommodation itself,
00:14:12but I just felt bad there.
00:14:14We trained for two and a half days,
00:14:16I just felt bad.
00:14:18On the third day, I was bored,
00:14:20so I came back.
00:14:22Of course, I agree with that.
00:14:24After that, it happened to you
00:14:26that in the seventh minute of the match
00:14:28you no longer had a breath.
00:14:30Yes, but it was harder for me
00:14:32to do those preparations.
00:14:34It's more of a shame than a benefit.
00:14:36Of course, I support spring training,
00:14:38that's for sure.
00:14:40You talked to Anton Kostelic about
00:14:42that cooperation.
00:14:44We didn't talk about cooperation.
00:14:46We changed our experience.
00:14:48He changed his experience,
00:14:50I told him mine.
00:14:52Yes, when they asked him,
00:14:54he said that your sport is boundless
00:14:56and that your training should be like that.
00:14:58But he didn't specify anything,
00:15:00but his colleague Maja Kubik
00:15:02made a three and a half minute contribution.
00:15:04She talked to people who do
00:15:06professional sports,
00:15:08who have some experience in it.
00:15:10She talked about the motivation
00:15:12of professional athletes to stay
00:15:14in the job they do for a long time.
00:15:26When the most famous Croatian policeman
00:15:28experienced his third defeat in the UFC,
00:15:30many said that they would not
00:15:32wake up at 4 a.m. to watch Mirko.
00:15:34After the defeat of a 10-year-old
00:15:36young fighter,
00:15:38not even Mirko himself
00:15:40wanted to wake up.
00:15:42Slogans like
00:15:44I give up my career,
00:15:46it's time to take off my gloves,
00:15:48they shouted from the newspapers.
00:15:50The caretakers concluded
00:15:52that it's not the same Mirko,
00:15:54it's best if he stops.
00:15:56We don't know too much about the sports motives
00:15:58of a professional athlete
00:16:00and the decisions about the rest of his career.
00:16:02We asked experts.
00:16:04One coach, one former athlete
00:16:06and one sports psychologist.
00:16:08All are complex.
00:16:10Without a motive, there is no professional sport,
00:16:12and psychological preparation is crucial.
00:16:14A person through sports experiences
00:16:16a lot of stress, a lot of pain,
00:16:18a lot of extremely important situations
00:16:20in relation to other people.
00:16:22And you can learn from that story.
00:16:24If you do that, you leave a peaceful sport,
00:16:26you continue a new story.
00:16:28Željko Mavrović is one of those athletes
00:16:30who changed the sports story
00:16:32to a business one.
00:16:34He withdrew to the top of his career,
00:16:36partly because health
00:16:38no longer allowed him
00:16:40great efforts.
00:16:42Yes, sport is.
00:16:44Three training sessions a day,
00:16:46everything is programmed.
00:16:48A dozen people care about you,
00:16:50plan your training, food, massage you,
00:16:52everyone cares about you.
00:16:54At some point, you are left alone.
00:16:56And you have to create
00:16:58your own days,
00:17:00your own discipline.
00:17:02Coach Blanke Vlašić,
00:17:04Željko Mavrović's father,
00:17:06knows very well about the discipline
00:17:08in sports.
00:17:10As he was engaged in sports himself,
00:17:12he is aware that athletes need
00:17:14top motivation before every competition.
00:17:16There was one opportunity,
00:17:18I opened it and said,
00:17:20I want you to do your circle every day.
00:17:22It was a spurt.
00:17:24And now she jumped well.
00:17:26She said, wait,
00:17:28I'm standing at the airport,
00:17:30and he says,
00:17:32what will I say?
00:17:34Being at the top of the sport
00:17:36you are engaged in is an immeasurable pleasure.
00:17:38Željko Mavrović and Joško Vlašić
00:17:40know this, but the sports career
00:17:42is shorter than others.
00:17:44The end often comes too soon
00:17:46and on the athlete knows
00:17:48One of the most common
00:17:50is that athletes
00:17:52build their own
00:17:54personal identity
00:17:56on their sports career.
00:17:58And when I stop being an athlete,
00:18:00then I stop being me.
00:18:02For athletes not to stop being
00:18:04what they are,
00:18:06the support of a sports psychologist is important.
00:18:08And if Mirko Filipović,
00:18:10at least on two upcoming
00:18:12and contract-related fights,
00:18:14decides to be Mirko Krokap,
00:18:16then he must be 100% ready.
00:18:18Mirko, if you are really ready,
00:18:20run, run to the ring,
00:18:22burn with your lungs,
00:18:24be ready for the next match,
00:18:26go to him and you will do it easily.
00:18:36This sports psychologist said
00:18:38a good thing,
00:18:40and that is that professional athletes,
00:18:42in any case,
00:18:44we talked about it 6 years ago,
00:18:46whether it is a sport or not,
00:18:48that professional athletes
00:18:50simply base their whole identity
00:18:52on their sports success,
00:18:54and when they retire
00:18:56or retire,
00:18:58they simply lose their ego.
00:19:00Are you afraid of civility?
00:19:02Absolutely.
00:19:04These are two things that break in me.
00:19:06Sometimes I am fed up with
00:19:08the military way of life,
00:19:10to be everything by the millimeter,
00:19:12to be able to go out at 7am,
00:19:14to be able to walk everything,
00:19:16to have up to 8 hours,
00:19:18to start training at 9.30am,
00:19:20to finish training at 11am,
00:19:22to be able to rest after that,
00:19:24to have a soup on the table
00:19:26at 2.00am,
00:19:28to be in bed at 3.30am,
00:19:30to sleep until 5am,
00:19:32to be able to rest for the evening training,
00:19:34to be able to go to the gym at 6.30am,
00:19:36to start the evening training at 6.30am,
00:19:38and so on for 20 years.
00:19:40These are almost everyday injuries,
00:19:42strokes, hematomas,
00:19:44shooting arcades,
00:19:46there are elements of crawling,
00:19:48Croatian throwing,
00:19:50so you can't get up in the morning
00:19:52from bed, so on.
00:19:54Such a situation is really countless.
00:19:56Do you risk in these fights
00:19:58to the end in some way
00:20:00and possibly with some serious injury
00:20:02that the audience,
00:20:04which remembered you well,
00:20:06laughs at you in some way
00:20:08I think that in this sport
00:20:10there is no place for laughing.
00:20:12At least normal people will not laugh,
00:20:14not even with one fighter.
00:20:16Everyone who is brave enough
00:20:18to enter the fight, to do it,
00:20:20deserves respect and respect,
00:20:22at least from normal people.
00:20:24And for the others,
00:20:26their opinion does not interest me at all.
00:20:28So can you finally say
00:20:30what and how further in your career?
00:20:32I tried that, but they interrupted me.
00:20:34It's hard to live a military life,
00:20:36I tried to give an example
00:20:38to our colleague, a journalist,
00:20:40when he told me that a man
00:20:42serves a prison sentence.
00:20:44Such a situation is countless.
00:20:46Literally 30-40 years in prison
00:20:48and they let him out.
00:20:50He literally the same day
00:20:52makes a mistake,
00:20:54breaks something,
00:20:56takes a pack of cigarettes,
00:20:58just to get him back inside,
00:21:00because he is not ready
00:21:02for a so-called civil life.
00:21:04That's what I'm afraid of.
00:21:06I'm afraid of military life.
00:21:08Don't you regret your life in prison?
00:21:10No, no, no, I enjoy it,
00:21:12but how am I going to
00:21:14organize my life in Stanković now?
00:21:16Here's my question to Filipović.
00:21:18Well, be a businessman,
00:21:20like Željko Mavrović.
00:21:22No, I don't have the finitivity for that.
00:21:24No?
00:21:26No, I have my own life philosophy.
00:21:28I believe that this life is too short,
00:21:30too poor, too one,
00:21:32too hard.
00:21:34Ok, 6 years ago you told me
00:21:36that you will focus on
00:21:38educating young people in this sport.
00:21:40No?
00:21:42That's hard.
00:21:44Why?
00:21:46I had some bad experiences with it.
00:21:48This is an individual sport,
00:21:50it's so hard to work with people.
00:21:52I had a few cases,
00:21:54so I was badly beaten.
00:21:56How? What happened?
00:21:58Well, people who trained with me
00:22:00know that.
00:22:02One guy showed up,
00:22:0419 years old, young,
00:22:06and hungry, most importantly.
00:22:08Brave,
00:22:10very strong puncher,
00:22:12big desire to fight.
00:22:14He came, he showed,
00:22:16he came to the training with a friend,
00:22:18and after 10 days I told him to stay
00:22:20if he wanted to train with us.
00:22:22I don't tell anyone, I train in my own house,
00:22:24I have my own court, so it's not a public space,
00:22:26and I don't allow anyone to come to train.
00:22:28In the end I talked to him,
00:22:30I asked about him,
00:22:32he doesn't live in Slovakia,
00:22:34he lives in an apartment,
00:22:36it was a terrible situation.
00:22:38He was a good student,
00:22:40I believed that he can do something.
00:22:42I was wrong, I believed that he can do something.
00:22:44In the end I helped him,
00:22:46without asking for anything in return,
00:22:48I just wanted to help him as a human being,
00:22:50because I believed that he can do something.
00:22:52There is always hunger,
00:22:54there is nothing.
00:22:56I gave him 500 euros per month
00:22:58for food,
00:23:00and I paid for his accommodation,
00:23:02to train.
00:23:04I said, let's start training,
00:23:0610-15 fights,
00:23:08I'll make you a contract in Japan or America,
00:23:10it doesn't matter where.
00:23:12But how could I do that,
00:23:14so he comes to the training,
00:23:16one of the guys comes,
00:23:18the other doesn't come,
00:23:20when he takes off his clothes,
00:23:22he goes to the gym,
00:23:24I told him,
00:23:26it doesn't matter,
00:23:28throw him down,
00:23:30we'll make a bench for 5 seconds,
00:23:32and that's it.
00:23:34I told him,
00:23:36at least 500 times,
00:23:38I told him,
00:23:40at least 30 times,
00:23:42I told him,
00:23:44after warming up,
00:23:46do this, that,
00:23:48he did it maybe 2 times.
00:23:50I don't want such disappointment,
00:23:52I don't want such disappointment.
00:23:54I wanted to ask you that,
00:23:56I don't want to tell you,
00:23:58like Ernesto Costa,
00:24:00that you didn't have luck
00:24:02to train 15 of them.
00:24:04I'll tell you,
00:24:06never say never,
00:24:08that's what I learned in life,
00:24:10but how things are now,
00:24:12I don't know.
00:24:14I want to understand,
00:24:16everyone who comes to me,
00:24:18I'll help them with my advice,
00:24:20I don't want them to say,
00:24:22I'm not for that anymore,
00:24:24I fell in love,
00:24:26I don't feel good,
00:24:28I don't need that.
00:24:30I don't want to participate in that way.
00:24:32My doors are open for everyone,
00:24:34who thinks I can give them advice,
00:24:36help them, guide them.
00:24:38Guys who are in that sport,
00:24:40know how they can come to me,
00:24:42it's not a secret,
00:24:44but I think,
00:24:46never say never,
00:24:48that I'll train only for myself,
00:24:50alone,
00:24:52in my four walls,
00:24:54for my health,
00:24:56for my satisfaction,
00:24:58but that I'll train someone.
00:25:00Wrestling is a big lottery,
00:25:02we look at you who are successful,
00:25:04but what can you say to kids,
00:25:06it's not that easy,
00:25:08and few of them achieve success,
00:25:10as long as they do it
00:25:12in a way to succeed,
00:25:14and to play for existence,
00:25:16like you.
00:25:18That's true,
00:25:20it's very hard,
00:25:22I never recommend that to my son.
00:25:24Did you have luck in all of that?
00:25:26Of course,
00:25:28sport luck is very important,
00:25:30luck is common in life,
00:25:32and sport luck is like in any other sport.
00:25:34Of course,
00:25:36it was a big work for me,
00:25:38a lot of enthusiasm,
00:25:40persistence,
00:25:42that's the key,
00:25:44but you weren't recognized as a sportsman in Croatia.
00:25:46I'm not bothered with that.
00:25:48Ok, but I know
00:25:50that in your family
00:25:52you were subjected to,
00:25:54in some way you felt humiliated,
00:25:56when you,
00:25:58if I'm not mistaken,
00:26:00were describing your son in the playground,
00:26:02and you were asking for an opportunity
00:26:04to have a job,
00:26:06but you couldn't,
00:26:08because Croatian Olympic Committee
00:26:10doesn't recognize you as a sportsman.
00:26:12The state was asking for me,
00:26:14I even had to submit
00:26:16something to the Ministry of Finance,
00:26:18just to be a sportsman.
00:26:20The Ministry of Sports
00:26:22just gave me a confirmation,
00:26:24nothing else.
00:26:26They refused to give me that
00:26:28under the argument that I'm not a sportsman.
00:26:30I think that's humiliating.
00:26:32I don't want to be praised,
00:26:34but the state is asking for me,
00:26:36and on the other hand,
00:26:38the state doesn't want to give me that.
00:26:40However,
00:26:42in some of my performances,
00:26:44when I fought from Fedor to Minotaur
00:26:46to Grand Prix,
00:26:48hundreds of millions of people
00:26:50were watching the Croatian flag
00:26:52and Croatian anthem.
00:26:54I think there's no reason
00:26:56to be humiliated in that way.
00:26:58I'm not saying that someone personally
00:27:00had something against me,
00:27:02but regardless of the fact that the state
00:27:04couldn't give me a single confirmation
00:27:06that I'm a sportsman,
00:27:08I don't think it makes sense
00:27:10to promote my home country.
00:27:12I don't mean to offend them,
00:27:14but I was humiliated in a different way.
00:27:16But it's a shame.
00:27:18Is it your fault that they didn't
00:27:20put you in the selection
00:27:22for the sportsman of the year?
00:27:24I never thought about that.
00:27:26I'm aware that it's a cruel sport
00:27:28and that there's a category of people
00:27:30who will never recognize it as a sport,
00:27:32even though it's nonsense.
00:27:34I don't want to be praised.
00:27:36It's nonsense.
00:27:42Is there a chance
00:27:44for you to return to K1?
00:27:50I started my career with K1
00:27:52and it's my big passion,
00:27:54my big love.
00:27:56My life and sports career
00:27:58took me to the other side,
00:28:00but I would have liked
00:28:02to fight in K1
00:28:04if I had the chance.
00:28:06I had my last fight
00:28:08in 2003 against Bob Sapp
00:28:10and it was a beautiful sport,
00:28:12at least for me.
00:28:14You admitted that you prefer
00:28:16watching K1 than Ultimate Fight.
00:28:18It depends on the fight.
00:28:20In general, yes,
00:28:22Ultimate Fight is a much more
00:28:24demanding, complex and complete sport.
00:28:26Who do you appreciate in K1?
00:28:28For example,
00:28:30three or four years ago
00:28:32there was a young guy
00:28:34called Badr Hari,
00:28:36who promises a lot.
00:28:38He's definitely one of the best.
00:28:40Badr Hari is here,
00:28:42there's also a three-time winner
00:28:44Remy Bunjasky,
00:28:46there's also Sammy Shield,
00:28:48Peter Aerts, who I adore,
00:28:50who is a beautiful man
00:28:52and who helped me a lot in my career.
00:28:54Maybe you should ask Peter Aerts
00:28:56where he is.
00:28:58He's been losing fights
00:29:00with Smieszko.
00:29:02Thank you for the advice.
00:29:04I'll think about it.
00:29:06When you mentioned Aerts,
00:29:08people don't know,
00:29:10but I have a feeling
00:29:12that he's losing fights
00:29:14with Smieszko.
00:29:16He's very optimistic
00:29:18and he already has 40 fights
00:29:20on his doorstep,
00:29:22if I'm not mistaken.
00:29:24At the beginning,
00:29:26I asked you about
00:29:28Croatia.
00:29:30We talked six years ago
00:29:32when you were elected
00:29:34as an MP.
00:29:36How do you feel
00:29:38after six years?
00:29:40Croatia?
00:29:42Yes.
00:29:44It's our country.
00:29:46I'll remind you,
00:29:48before you became
00:29:50active in the Parliament,
00:29:52you were a guest
00:29:54on the show
00:29:56Let's see
00:29:58how Mirko Filipović
00:30:00looked six years ago
00:30:02full of enthusiasm.
00:30:04When it comes to sport,
00:30:06we need to change
00:30:08the attitude towards culture,
00:30:10the status of sport.
00:30:12We need to start
00:30:14the prevention
00:30:16in schools,
00:30:18to explain to young people
00:30:20the dangers of drugs,
00:30:22that it's not a test.
00:30:24We need to show people
00:30:26the dangers of drugs,
00:30:28that it's not a test.
00:30:30I, as a former policeman,
00:30:32have some examples.
00:30:34First of all,
00:30:36as for all of us,
00:30:38the whole Croatian society,
00:30:40it's a big problem
00:30:42to increase the number
00:30:44of criminal cases.
00:30:46It's hard to steal,
00:30:48it's hard to rob,
00:30:50it's a big chance
00:30:52to increase the number
00:30:54of criminal cases.
00:30:56I think that the police
00:30:58should be based on
00:31:00the number of criminal cases.
00:31:02First of all,
00:31:04the Croatian police
00:31:06doesn't have enough equipment.
00:31:08For example,
00:31:10two most obvious examples
00:31:12are bulletproof vests
00:31:14or bulletproof shirts.
00:31:16The Croatian police
00:31:18doesn't use bulletproof vests.
00:31:20For this reason,
00:31:22two, unfortunately,
00:31:24King and Murg,
00:31:26have died.
00:31:28Am I old, Jakub?
00:31:30Six years?
00:31:32I don't know,
00:31:34let the people
00:31:36who have aspirations
00:31:38say that.
00:31:40I didn't ask you
00:31:42for aspirations,
00:31:44I just asked you
00:31:46to say that.
00:31:48I'm a little bit old,
00:31:50but okay.
00:31:52Remember,
00:31:54maybe I lost
00:31:56the fight with him,
00:31:58but I can always
00:32:00beat you.
00:32:02School, drugs,
00:32:04criminal.
00:32:06I stay with what I said.
00:32:10Were you disturbed
00:32:12by inactivity at the parliament?
00:32:14Well, without any reason.
00:32:19You didn't use your hand on your heart that often, did you?
00:32:23I'll tell you why. Because I'm a practical man.
00:32:27I went there every day, and every time I participated,
00:32:30the effect was the same as if no one showed up in that hall.
00:32:33The effect was exactly the same.
00:32:36Why?
00:32:37Because the hall today is just a voting machine,
00:32:40and the main thing there is to raise your hand.
00:32:42And that's it.
00:32:44Everything functions according to the principle of a central party.
00:32:47And that's how it is.
00:32:48When did you realize that?
00:32:50When I entered the council. It was already too late.
00:32:53That's how it is. I can speak for the situation I was in.
00:32:57That's how it works today.
00:32:59HDZ was in power then. I mentioned HDZ.
00:33:01It is still in power today, and it was then.
00:33:03Whatever decision the government makes,
00:33:05that council must vote for the members of HDZ.
00:33:09I've never seen a vote where half of the people voted for,
00:33:13and half of the people voted against.
00:33:16Vladimir Sheik raised his hand.
00:33:18Who is for? Vladimir Sheik raised his hand.
00:33:20All of their representatives raised their hands.
00:33:22It's possible that all 70 or 60 of them were thought out in the same way.
00:33:25That's a side effect.
00:33:27There's no point in talking about something that has no effect.
00:33:32Unfortunately, that's how it is.
00:33:35We should first change the electoral system
00:33:37so that every member of the council can vote for his electorate.
00:33:42I'm not an expert, but I don't know how it should be done.
00:33:46This electoral system is simply not good.
00:33:49Was it a bad experience for you?
00:33:51No. I never regret anything in my life.
00:33:55It was a nice experience for me.
00:33:57I met a lot of people, I saw how it works,
00:34:00and I don't regret it.
00:34:02Did they respect you in the council?
00:34:04No.
00:34:05At least I didn't notice it.
00:34:07Maybe they did behind my back, but I didn't notice it.
00:34:09Like Gleg, a limited boxer.
00:34:12I didn't notice it.
00:34:14I didn't give people a reason to be limited or to offend me.
00:34:19Do you think so?
00:34:21No, no, I'm asking you.
00:34:23I don't know how people think in the council,
00:34:26because I don't hang out with them,
00:34:28but in the journalism circle,
00:34:30you could hear what they need.
00:34:32It's better to fight than to enter the council.
00:34:35It's not educated enough.
00:34:37No matter what I do, there will always be people
00:34:40who will say what they need.
00:34:42If Bill Gates gives me all his money,
00:34:45and I return the foreign debt of the Republic of Croatia,
00:34:48there will always be people who will say what they need.
00:34:51If I open 10 hospitals, they will say what they need.
00:34:54He's not a normal man.
00:34:56There are always 100 people, 100 miracles.
00:35:00There is a group of people,
00:35:02a few of my closest friends,
00:35:04who I really respect,
00:35:06and I consult with them.
00:35:08I can only laugh about it.
00:35:13Is it true that Senator Vrbov tried to get you into the Council?
00:35:16No.
00:35:18What do you think about the sudden departure of the Prime Minister?
00:35:22Where and where?
00:35:24I don't know. There were 100 theories.
00:35:27100 theories, 100 versions.
00:35:29I don't know.
00:35:31I've never been in personal contact with Senator Vrbov.
00:35:34Of course, we met.
00:35:36I didn't know him that well.
00:35:38But I can only think about it.
00:35:40In a certain way, he was forced to resign.
00:35:43For what reason?
00:35:45For health reasons?
00:35:47For medical reasons?
00:35:49For family reasons?
00:35:51I don't think there is a reason.
00:35:53I don't think he's the kind of person
00:35:55whose argument is,
00:35:57I've done my part, I don't want to do it anymore.
00:36:00I think it's unbelievable for him.
00:36:02Maybe I'm wrong,
00:36:04but I think he was forced to resign in a certain way.
00:36:06For what reason? I don't know.
00:36:08How do you assess this move?
00:36:10I think it's both politically and humanly incorrect.
00:36:13The way he left.
00:36:15I think it's not correct.
00:36:17Of course, Senator Vrbov has the right to his election.
00:36:19No one can stop him.
00:36:21But I think it's at least politically incorrect.
00:36:24Even though HDZ started with him,
00:36:26with the program he represented,
00:36:28he was the backbone of the whole campaign.
00:36:30People voted for him.
00:36:32HDZ as a party got the most votes in the elections.
00:36:34The most mandates.
00:36:36And he got the legitimacy to form a government.
00:36:38I think people voted for Nadir,
00:36:40not for HDZ as much as for him.
00:36:42He was the personification of HDZ.
00:36:44In the elections.
00:36:46Everyone agrees on that.
00:36:48I don't know what the reasons were for him to resign.
00:36:51I really don't know.
00:36:53But it's politically incorrect.
00:36:55How do you assess his successor?
00:36:57As prime minister.
00:37:00I think that
00:37:02Jadranka Kosor surprised a lot.
00:37:05She showed
00:37:07a lot of toughness
00:37:09than many expected from her.
00:37:11To be honest.
00:37:13She surprised me as well.
00:37:15She was practically always
00:37:17an assistant.
00:37:19I think that
00:37:21even the president of HDZ
00:37:23wasn't so serious
00:37:25about this election.
00:37:27She probably surprised a lot of people.
00:37:29There were speculations
00:37:31that Nadir named her
00:37:33for his successor,
00:37:35which everyone accepted with acclamation.
00:37:37So that he could influence the government through her.
00:37:39However, I have to say
00:37:41that Jadranka Kosor surprised me personally.
00:37:43At least in some parts.
00:37:45She's not as crazy as people said.
00:37:47She's not as crazy as people thought
00:37:49and as many people thought
00:37:51from Orhan's side.
00:37:53What do you think?
00:37:55Do you want to keep women
00:37:57at the head of the government?
00:37:59I don't know.
00:38:01It's a matter of political analysis.
00:38:03I hope so.
00:38:05Jadranka Kosor isn't the prime minister of HDZ.
00:38:07She's the prime minister of all of us.
00:38:09I want to be as successful as possible in my mandate.
00:38:11Is it true that you run here and there
00:38:13with Zoran Milanovic?
00:38:15I ran here only once.
00:38:17Which one was better?
00:38:19Which one was better?
00:38:21Which one was better, yes.
00:38:23Milanovic was in such a good condition
00:38:25that I thought
00:38:27that I should call the ambulance
00:38:29to come and get him.
00:38:31He's a good runner,
00:38:33but unfortunately he didn't show
00:38:35a good condition then.
00:38:37I have to be honest and say
00:38:39that he gave up on the first night
00:38:41and then we ran together again.
00:38:43He's a good runner,
00:38:45but unfortunately he didn't show
00:38:47a good condition then.
00:38:49Do you think he's in a good condition
00:38:51for some other campaigns?
00:38:53You have to be more specific.
00:38:55He claims to take over the government
00:38:57of this country and his party.
00:38:59Do you think he's in a good condition for that?
00:39:01I think so.
00:39:03I think he's in a good condition
00:39:05in a political sense.
00:39:07Our country is,
00:39:09as I would say,
00:39:11in a way,
00:39:13complicated.
00:39:15There are too many things
00:39:17that need to be fixed.
00:39:19I don't know how strong he is
00:39:21and how much support he has
00:39:23in his party.
00:39:25I don't know.
00:39:27I don't want to speculate,
00:39:29but I think he has the strength
00:39:31for the prime minister's position.
00:39:33How successful that position will be,
00:39:35how brave and personal he will be
00:39:37with all the problems that await him
00:39:39and I hope he will succeed
00:39:41in forming a government.
00:39:43When you were in the Parliament,
00:39:45you could see from the inside
00:39:47how things work in the SDPU.
00:39:49You're not in the Parliament anymore,
00:39:51but based on what you can see
00:39:53and hear in the media,
00:39:55what do you think?
00:39:57What do things look like in the SDPU?
00:39:59I can be very specific.
00:40:01We just mentioned Milanović.
00:40:03I can ask you something about Milano Bandić.
00:40:05Is it good that what's happening
00:40:07in the SDPU is happening?
00:40:09Is it good that Milano Bandić
00:40:11is running for president?
00:40:13That's Milano Bandić's personal thing.
00:40:15But I always support that he has
00:40:17different opinions.
00:40:19He should never rule with one mind.
00:40:21That's enough.
00:40:23If Milano Bandić feels the urge
00:40:25to run, let him run.
00:40:27If he thinks, and he's one of
00:40:29our most experienced politicians,
00:40:31if he thinks he can get elected,
00:40:33why wouldn't he run?
00:40:35Would you throw him out of the SDPU?
00:40:37That's a hypothetical question.
00:40:39The SDPU has two candidates.
00:40:41I don't want to get into that.
00:40:43Those are internal matters of the SDPU.
00:40:45I don't want to get into that.
00:40:47Vidovčić was thrown out of the SDPU
00:40:49according to the party statute.
00:40:51I don't know how it's going now.
00:40:53I didn't get into those details.
00:40:55I don't know if he should be thrown out.
00:40:57Who do you like the most
00:40:59in the current election
00:41:01for president of the Republic?
00:41:05I personally know all the candidates.
00:41:07You can answer this question better.
00:41:09I didn't mean to.
00:41:11I'm a friend of his.
00:41:13He's an expert.
00:41:15I personally know all of them.
00:41:17It's all a matter of personal preference.
00:41:19OK.
00:41:21Who do you like?
00:41:23I think that Ivo Sipović
00:41:25has a better chance in this election.
00:41:27Are they your choice?
00:41:29You don't have a party
00:41:31to hide that answer?
00:41:33No.
00:41:35I will vote for Ivo Sipović.
00:41:37What do you like about him?
00:41:39Do you like him as a man?
00:41:41I didn't ask you that.
00:41:43I asked you about Stanković.
00:41:45You are a real provocateur.
00:41:51When we talk about the president
00:41:53of a country,
00:41:55some criteria must be met.
00:41:57Many people are not realistic.
00:41:59I'm not talking about candidates.
00:42:01The president of a country
00:42:03must be a moral person.
00:42:05He must be educated.
00:42:07He can't be crazy.
00:42:09I think that Ivo Sipović
00:42:11satisfies all three criteria.
00:42:13I don't want to have a president
00:42:15who will be manipulated.
00:42:17Despite the relatively small
00:42:19powers that the president has.
00:42:21On the other hand,
00:42:23those powers are not that small.
00:42:25The president creates foreign policy.
00:42:27The president must sign
00:42:29a secret service.
00:42:31Those powers are not that small.
00:42:35I believe that Ivo Sipović
00:42:37can do that.
00:42:39I know him personally.
00:42:41We were friends.
00:42:43I think that he is a moral and honest person.
00:42:45He is an educated person.
00:42:47I know that he is not crazy.
00:42:49In this public discourse,
00:42:51we talk about topics
00:42:53such as nationalism and chauvinism.
00:42:55Wouldn't it be a problem
00:42:57if people who are in power
00:42:59don't produce him?
00:43:01Are you sensitive to people's division?
00:43:03Absolutely.
00:43:05I have always divided people.
00:43:07I understand that people should divide.
00:43:09But only on good and bad.
00:43:11If we are going to expand it
00:43:13on smart and stupid,
00:43:15on bad and good people.
00:43:17To divide people
00:43:19according to their nationality,
00:43:21skin color, religion,
00:43:23I consider it extreme primitivism.
00:43:25I have visited more or less
00:43:27the whole world.
00:43:29I have friends,
00:43:31not only good scientists,
00:43:33but also acquaintances,
00:43:35people of different skin colors.
00:43:37We never talked about their religion.
00:43:39I am not interested in that.
00:43:41I just know that people are honest,
00:43:43honest and correct.
00:43:45I adore those people.
00:43:47As far as chauvinism and national socialism
00:43:49are concerned,
00:43:51you have recently
00:43:53visited Auschwitz.
00:43:55It was just an initiative.
00:43:57It was not a trip.
00:43:59You visited Auschwitz
00:44:01with your friends.
00:44:03Yes.
00:44:05Why?
00:44:07It was my great desire
00:44:09to visit Auschwitz,
00:44:11to see
00:44:13the biggest battlefield
00:44:15in Europe,
00:44:17where millions of people were killed.
00:44:19I wanted to pay my respects
00:44:21to the people of Auschwitz.
00:44:23It is one thing,
00:44:25but it is another.
00:44:27I am a big fan of history.
00:44:29I was interested in that place.
00:44:31It was not difficult for me.
00:44:33I just took my car
00:44:35and we visited Auschwitz.
00:44:37It was a great experience for me.
00:44:39You were in Auschwitz
00:44:41for three or four hours.
00:44:43What was special about it?
00:44:45When you look at
00:44:47that small space
00:44:49you realize
00:44:51that millions of people
00:44:53were killed there.
00:44:55It is not a big space.
00:44:57Millions of people were killed.
00:44:59We were lucky to have
00:45:01an excellent guide.
00:45:03He does not work as a guide.
00:45:05We asked him to show us
00:45:07and explain to us.
00:45:09I think he works
00:45:11as an assistant director
00:45:13in that museum.
00:45:15He explained to me
00:45:17and I was glad.
00:45:19We had a serious
00:45:21argument.
00:45:23It is terrible.
00:45:25It is a human fate.
00:45:27In the middle of the night
00:45:29they put you in a train
00:45:31and the next day
00:45:33they put you in a cage.
00:45:35It is terrible.
00:45:37I think it is terrible.
00:45:39I do not understand people
00:45:41who support it.
00:45:43I do not understand
00:45:45people who support
00:45:47National Socialism.
00:45:49I do not believe it.
00:45:51I think people should
00:45:53go there and see
00:45:55what is going on there.
00:45:57It is terrible.
00:45:59It is one of the most
00:46:01traumatic experiences
00:46:03for me.
00:46:05It is almost twice smaller
00:46:07than your studio.
00:46:09There were thousands
00:46:11of people.
00:46:13They were separated
00:46:15when they were put
00:46:17in the cage.
00:46:19They were immediately
00:46:21liquidated.
00:46:23It is terrible.
00:46:25Thousands of people
00:46:27were involved in
00:46:29the liquidation.
00:46:31I do not understand
00:46:33what happened
00:46:35to those people.
00:46:37I do not know.
00:46:39I am interested
00:46:41in what happened
00:46:43to our young people.
00:46:45I do not want
00:46:47to moralize
00:46:49too much,
00:46:51but I am interested
00:46:53in what happened
00:46:55to those people
00:46:57who were not
00:46:59sophisticated,
00:47:01but they believed
00:47:03in other nationalities.
00:47:05You told me
00:47:07that you read
00:47:09a lot about the
00:47:11situation in Croatia.
00:47:13Your son is in school.
00:47:15I guess
00:47:17children learn something
00:47:19in school,
00:47:21but there are many
00:47:23who relax.
00:47:25Is it because of
00:47:27their family background?
00:47:29Absolutely.
00:47:31I think it is
00:47:33the case in most cases.
00:47:35In Croatia,
00:47:37it is defined
00:47:39in relation to the Second World War,
00:47:41whether to the Ustashas
00:47:43or to the Partisans.
00:47:45It is a family background.
00:47:47Sometimes it is a matter
00:47:49of uneducation.
00:47:51I do not know
00:47:53if it is a secret,
00:47:55but you mentioned
00:47:57that you had people
00:47:59in your family
00:48:01who were in the Ustasha army,
00:48:03but you did not go there.
00:48:05My father died last year.
00:48:07He was a member of the
00:48:09domestic force,
00:48:11but he joined the Ustasha army
00:48:13in Blajburg.
00:48:15My grandmother and
00:48:17my brother were born
00:48:19in the Black Legion.
00:48:21I do not see why
00:48:23they did not choose
00:48:25the wrong side.
00:48:27It is a long and
00:48:29complicated story.
00:48:31I think it is a
00:48:33family background.
00:48:35On the other hand,
00:48:37you have to draw a line
00:48:39between 1941 and 1945.
00:48:41You have to draw a line
00:48:43on the so-called
00:48:45national-Slavic struggle.
00:48:47It was a noble goal
00:48:49to rebel against evil.
00:48:51Hitler's Germany was definitely
00:48:53evil, against the persecution,
00:48:55the killing, the deportation
00:48:57of innocent people.
00:48:59After that,
00:49:01many innocent people
00:49:03lost their lives,
00:49:05many innocent people
00:49:07paid with their heads,
00:49:09and so on.
00:49:11You cannot talk about
00:49:13democracy at that time.
00:49:15I would not go into
00:49:17ideological affiliation.
00:49:19Neither was the
00:49:21National Socialism good,
00:49:23nor was the rigid communism good.
00:49:25I condemn all totalitarian systems.
00:49:27I think no one should
00:49:29talk about the death penalty.
00:49:31Maybe it is best
00:49:33to leave it to the
00:49:35historians.
00:49:37Let the historians decide.
00:49:39We young people
00:49:41should look at the present
00:49:43and the future.
00:49:45How will we secure jobs?
00:49:47How will we enable our children
00:49:49not to go back to that time?
00:49:51That is what I am interested in.
00:49:53How will I enable my children
00:49:55to go to school?
00:49:57That is what I am interested in.
00:49:59I am interested in history.
00:50:01I like to read history books.
00:50:03Of course, I have my own opinion.
00:50:05Should we focus too much on that?
00:50:07No.
00:50:09I was a witness
00:50:11when such topics were
00:50:13on the agenda.
00:50:15There were the harshest
00:50:17controversies, the harshest
00:50:19insults.
00:50:21I just sit and watch.
00:50:23I cannot believe that
00:50:25this is the level of the Croatian Parliament.
00:50:27But there was that.
00:50:29You had to hear if it was heard
00:50:31on TV or not.
00:50:33If the microphone was on or not.
00:50:35It was terrible.
00:50:37Did you have a chance to go back to the Parliament?
00:50:39Or you are not interested in that anymore?
00:50:41I am not interested in that.
00:50:43I did not think about it.
00:50:45We mentioned your son.
00:50:47Is he a strict father?
00:50:49Yes, moderately.
00:50:51There are some things
00:50:53that should not be allowed.
00:50:55I am not generally strict.
00:50:57But I try to
00:50:59get involved in some things.
00:51:01I talk to them a lot.
00:51:03I am not even 7 years old.
00:51:05But I try to explain
00:51:07how to behave,
00:51:09to teach a child to say thank you,
00:51:11to look in the eyes,
00:51:13to look to the left
00:51:15or to the right.
00:51:17That is what irritates me the most.
00:51:19I look to the left or to the right
00:51:21and I talk to someone else.
00:51:23That is a disaster for me.
00:51:25Do you want to send your child to a private school?
00:51:27Yes.
00:51:29I think we have a good educational system.
00:51:31My child goes to Stenjavac primary school
00:51:33with his peers
00:51:35for no apparent reason.
00:51:37Why would I...
00:51:39I think that is not a good way.
00:51:41To just drown the children in it in a certain way.
00:51:43You said that in your childhood
00:51:45among other things
00:51:47it was good that you tasted poverty.
00:51:49Your offspring will not taste poverty.
00:51:51Well, I can't...
00:51:53So that you know how to appreciate it later.
00:51:55We have never been poor.
00:51:57I don't want to say that people
00:51:59from my birthplace who watch this
00:52:01we have never been poor.
00:52:03My father worked on a railroad.
00:52:05My mother was a housewife.
00:52:07My father always had some entrepreneurial ideas.
00:52:09I think he was the first.
00:52:11It was not a coffee bar.
00:52:13He opened a Seva beer.
00:52:15It functioned for several years.
00:52:17It was not a good business.
00:52:19But maybe we lived a little bit
00:52:21better than average.
00:52:23Not the best, not the worst,
00:52:25but maybe a little bit better than average.
00:52:27It was not a great time.
00:52:29People did not know what they had.
00:52:31They drove like everyone else.
00:52:33There were no luxury cars.
00:52:35Once we went to the sea every year
00:52:37for three weeks.
00:52:39That was the only luxury we could afford.
00:52:41I can't say that I was poor.
00:52:43I don't remember my childhood.
00:52:45When my father died,
00:52:47my mother and I were left with nothing.
00:52:49We bought some cars
00:52:5190 years before the war on credit.
00:52:53We had to return the car
00:52:55on credit.
00:52:57We had to close all the debts.
00:52:59It was not like that then.
00:53:01I was in the army.
00:53:03I served in the military.
00:53:05I graduated in 1993.
00:53:07I went to the army.
00:53:09I applied.
00:53:11It was not easy for us then.
00:53:13We could not even get
00:53:15a place to live.
00:53:17We had to survive.
00:53:19I went to Zagreb University.
00:53:21I was in the student house
00:53:23for a year.
00:53:25I had to sleep in the room.
00:53:27It was not a good time.
00:53:29I was not poor,
00:53:31but I did not want to stay at home.
00:53:33There were many times
00:53:35when I did not want to play
00:53:37as a soldier.
00:53:39When I went to the market
00:53:41to buy a banana,
00:53:43I did not have any money
00:53:45in my pocket.
00:53:47I did not want
00:53:49my son to taste it,
00:53:51but I did not want him
00:53:53to get everything for free.
00:53:55When he grows up,
00:53:57he will go
00:53:59to Zagreb
00:54:01to help
00:54:03in the morning.
00:54:05I just wanted him
00:54:07to get used to the work.
00:54:09My son will understand
00:54:11that our house
00:54:13is a little nicer
00:54:15than others.
00:54:17He will understand
00:54:19that his father
00:54:21drives a better car
00:54:23than average.
00:54:25He does not care.
00:54:27He will learn
00:54:29that there is a difference
00:54:31between us.
00:54:33I do not want
00:54:35my son to be an idiot
00:54:37like me.
00:54:39I do not want my son
00:54:41to break his bones
00:54:43and shed his blood.
00:54:45My father will have
00:54:47a good education.
00:54:49I will try
00:54:51to give him
00:54:53the best of me.
00:54:55I will teach him
00:54:57to respect people
00:54:59and not divide them
00:55:01by name and surname.
00:55:03I will teach him
00:55:05to respect his father's actions.
00:55:07It is my job.
00:55:09I will give my son
00:55:11a good education.
00:55:13I will buy
00:55:15for him a house
00:55:17and he will help
00:55:19his father.
00:55:21My son will have
00:55:23the support of his father.
00:55:25He is a footballer.
00:55:27I have described him
00:55:29in our local club.
00:55:31He loves football.
00:55:33I don't want to sound like a sick father who is pushing his child, but he hasn't missed a single training session.
00:55:42He has a fever, he has to go to the gym, he has to explain to his mother that he can't be sick, that he can't be like this.
00:55:46If he has a chance for sport, I will be behind him, I will help him as much as I can.
00:55:55That he will get everything on payday, that he will get a Porsche for his 18th birthday, that's for sure.
00:56:00I have a very common question about Snahe, since you have already answered how you are going to kick him out.
00:56:09I have to ask you one thing. I have an introduction to this question, but I won't get to it, a lot of time has passed.
00:56:16Why did you ban HTW for a long time to broadcast your defeat against Randleman, if I'm not mistaken?
00:56:24Was that a hero?
00:56:26No, that's not true. How could I ban HTW? What did I say to the manager? Don't do that, that's really stupid.
00:56:32HTW couldn't get a video, and that's when your...
00:56:36I've already apologized a few times, I didn't say a word, I didn't say a word.
00:56:40That fight was shown in the end, you can see it on internet portals, don't call me for something I didn't do.
00:56:48That's not the only thing people called me for, I didn't say a word, I didn't say a word.
00:56:54I didn't say a word for that fight, I was badly washed, and that was so uncomfortable for me.
00:56:58Our daily newspaper, Slobodan Dalmacija, was washing me, it's hard for me to rely on some t-shirts.
00:57:06I'm not an onion, I'm not an onion, I'm not a minister.
00:57:08That was on the front page.
00:57:10That man probably thinks he's one of the investigative journalists.
00:57:14He named some numbers he found on the internet, he bought some of my t-shirts.
00:57:18Some guys in Croatia printed and sold them.
00:57:20He sold them to me automatically.
00:57:22There are hundreds of such groups or individuals who sell not only my t-shirts, but all the other t-shirts.
00:57:27In the end, he didn't get the bill, so he could put me in that contract without checking it,
00:57:31because I'm afraid, what do I need for 5, 6, 10 t-shirts to cut,
00:57:34and if there are 6, 7, 10 left, he's going to humiliate me.
00:57:36That's how people are, I'm scared.
00:57:38We didn't say anything to the journalists, but that's fine.
00:57:41That topic is for another time.
00:57:43For the fourth time, right?
00:57:45That's right, for the fourth time.
00:57:46I hope you'll stay in this business.
00:57:48I hope I won't leave it that easily either.
00:57:51So we'll have a topic for another show.
00:57:53But what I want to ask for the end.
00:57:55It's less known to people that you're a big movie fan, so to speak,
00:58:01and that you often cheer up your society with quotes from some movies.
00:58:06So, what do you like?
00:58:08If you want, you can say something at the end.
00:58:11I'm a big movie fan, I have a whole collection of movies at home.
00:58:15I know all kinds of genres.
00:58:18What kind of movies?
00:58:20I don't know, action movies, I have a collection.
00:58:24For me, one of the biggest actors, I love him the most, Clint Eastwood.
00:58:28He's the biggest face for me.
00:58:30I'm sorry that I haven't met him yet,
00:58:32one of the greats of the film industry.
00:58:34I'll try to organize it when I go to America next time.
00:58:37You also met one of the greats, who is deceased today,
00:58:43and who is a hero of the movies you love?
00:58:46Danilo Bata Stojković.
00:58:48He's the best actor for me, from the period of Yugoslavia,
00:58:52in cinematography.
00:58:55I can't forget those three movies, it's a great trilogy for me.
00:58:59Maratonci trče, Počasni krug, Balkanski špijun,
00:59:01Niko to tamo peva.
00:59:02Those are really anthological movies.
00:59:05Danilo Bata Stojković acted in all those three movies.
00:59:08That's why he was a legend for me.
00:59:10I watched Maratonci so many times,
00:59:12that I have to admit, I went to the funeral
00:59:14because of Danilo Bata Stojković.
00:59:16I don't remember when it was,
00:59:18six or seven years ago, maybe eight.
00:59:20There was a performance, it was called Profesionalac.
00:59:22I don't remember which funeral.
00:59:24In Vidra.
00:59:25Maybe, at Sheraton, I don't know.
00:59:27I went, I sat down and watched it.
00:59:29I asked the director, I said I would like to meet him.
00:59:32I watched that movie so many times,
00:59:34and their...
00:59:36Why do we repeat ourselves in our society?
00:59:38Who is your favorite?
00:59:40Is he from Maratonci, is he from Balkanski špijun?
00:59:43Those are all three, I would say,
00:59:45remake works of Juki Matografi.
00:59:48For me personally, Maratonci are my favorite.
00:59:50For me personally, Maratonci are my favorite.
00:59:52Can I persuade you to repeat something from Maratonci?
00:59:57Who is your favorite character and who do you imitate the best?
01:00:00What do you think?
01:00:01What do you make your guys laugh with?
01:00:03Well, there is my favorite character,
01:00:05of course, Laki Topalović,
01:00:07and Billy Pitton.
01:00:08Those are two of the best faces in that character.
01:00:11I would like to quote something,
01:00:13since you know that I know the whole movie by heart.
01:00:18I mean, I understand you, but you understand me.
01:00:20I pay the two who dig,
01:00:21I pay the two who dig graves,
01:00:22I pay the people who inform me.
01:00:24Everyone asks, I just pay.
01:00:25Where do I come from?
01:00:26I've been working for your company for 20 years.
01:00:28I dug out the chests,
01:00:29you clean the mud,
01:00:30you turn them over,
01:00:31you make new ones.
01:00:32Is that right or not?
01:00:33That's right.
01:00:34I worked honestly,
01:00:36now I'm looking for a new account,
01:00:37and that's it.
01:00:38If you don't have money to pay the debt,
01:00:40I have a proposal.
01:00:41That's a small quote.
01:00:42Zoran Radmilović.
01:00:43Zoran Radmilović, legendary, yes.
01:00:46Well, thank you for being on the show,
01:00:49success in your career,
01:00:50what else can I tell you?
01:00:52As few broken arcades as possible,
01:00:53head and the like.
01:00:55That would be about it.
01:00:56Thank you for the cynicism,
01:00:57and for the rest we will solve it outside.
01:00:59There is no cynicism,
01:01:00I like you as a man,
01:01:01and today you are in the best years.
01:01:04Let's go to the couch.
01:01:05Dear viewers,
01:01:06that's all for today.
01:01:08See you in a day.
01:01:09Goodbye.
01:01:33Bye.
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