Dr.med.Gëzim Kelmendi
Kryetar i Partisë FJALA,
Ish-deputet në Kuvendin e Kosovës në dy mandate (2011 - 2014 / 2014 - 2017),
Doktor i Stomatologjisë,
Specialist i Kirurgjisë Maksillofaciale
Kryetar i Partisë FJALA,
Ish-deputet në Kuvendin e Kosovës në dy mandate (2011 - 2014 / 2014 - 2017),
Doktor i Stomatologjisë,
Specialist i Kirurgjisë Maksillofaciale
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00:00In
00:29this video we will show you how the Kosovo Public Opinion has come to dominate the topic
00:43of the construction of the Semala Mosque in Pristina, which from the end of the war, especially
00:48the class that decided to build the Catholic cathedral in the center of Pristina, the Islamic
00:53community, has expressed a strong need for a mosque in the center of Pristina.
00:57And this request has taken a long time, the mosque began to be built on the offer of the
01:01construction company Telekom, because the funds are secured by the Turkish government.
01:06But the debate is not over, not only the demand for the location, for the architecture, there
01:12is a lot of demand also for the financier of the project.
01:15But why does the debate continue on this topic?
01:18This is the question that we will try to answer during this show, invited by the head
01:24of the FIALA party, Gzim Kelmendin, the theologian Mustafa Bayrami, and journalists Vissar Duric
01:29and Arbana Gjarra, who will be with us via Skype.
01:32Good evening.
01:34Good evening.
01:35First, we will see a chronicle prepared by state television, from the reactions of the
01:41citizens who were aware, so a group, certainly a small group, some who support the construction
01:47of the mosque, and others who support the so-called protest in Pristina, and then we
01:53will say about the debate here in the studio.
02:04The work continues.
02:08The period is all about the construction of the large mosque in Pristina.
02:12A number of citizens gather here to protest this project.
02:16This is the reason why the police of Kosovo are also present here.
02:22In this protest, even Rabet Mani is present.
02:25He is showing the reason why he is against the construction of this fatal object.
02:29The reason is that Kosovo does not have the luxury to build a mosque worth 1450 million
02:36in this total wasteland that has plagued us.
02:40To join this protest, other cities of Kosovo also came.
02:45I am here because Pristina is also my city.
02:49I am here because Pristina is also my city.
02:52I am here because Pristina is also my city.
02:55I am here because Pristina is also my city.
02:58I am here because Pristina is also my city.
03:01I am here because Pristina is also my city.
03:04I am here because Pristina is also my city.
03:07I am here because Pristina is also my city.
03:10I am here because Pristina is also my city.
03:13The citizens of Kosovo came from Stanovsi to protest against the protest of the citizens.
03:17We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:20We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:21We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:21We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:22We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:22We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:23We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:23We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:24We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:24We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:25We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:25We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:38We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:38We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:39We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:39We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:40We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:40We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:41We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:41We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:42We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:42We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:43We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:43We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
03:44We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
04:12We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
04:14We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
04:16We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
04:18We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
04:20We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
04:22We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
04:24We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
04:26We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
04:28We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
04:30We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
04:32We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
04:34We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
04:36We are here because we want to build a mosque worth 1450 million.
04:38This fund was requested by the IDD.
04:40This fund was requested by the IDD.
04:42However, its number was given to someone else,
04:44However, its number was given to someone else,
04:46while it was withdrawn by the police of Kosovo.
04:48while it was withdrawn by the police of Kosovo.
04:50All these developments are taking place without the presence
04:52All these developments are taking place without the presence
04:54of the organizer of the Binagashe protest.
04:56of the organizer of the Binagashe protest.
04:58He is a member of the UCK.
05:00He is a member of the UCK.
05:02He is a member of the UCK.
05:04He is a member of the UCK.
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07:54We are not only the first in the region,
07:56but I think we are the first in Europe
07:58and the first country that has been
08:00defeated and defeated with fanaticism.
08:02Why do you mention this?
08:04Because the debates are not
08:06based on different faiths.
08:08There are citizens of Pristina
08:10who are Muslims,
08:12nominally,
08:14who have their own beliefs
08:16for different reasons.
08:18They are not doing this
08:20because of religious reasons.
08:22No, I did not say that.
08:24No, I did not say that.
08:26What I mean is that the mosque
08:28represents the Muslim identity
08:30of Kosovo.
08:32Anyone who attacks the role,
08:34the construction,
08:36the function of the mosque
08:38directly attacks the belief
08:40of the citizens of Kosovo
08:42that this is a Muslim country.
08:44As a people,
08:46we have cultivated
08:48mutual tolerance
08:50and we respect each other.
08:52However, we have seen
08:54that a small group has raised
08:56their voice for some people
08:58in favor of donations,
09:00for some in favor of the city,
09:02for some in favor of the mosque's
09:04architecture,
09:06for which I think
09:08they were not aware.
09:10They did not have the support
09:12of the majority of the population.
09:14Mosque as a mosque,
09:16I think it's good,
09:18as far as I am informed,
09:20there was a case
09:22in the Republic of Kosovo
09:24which said
09:26that the mosque
09:28will be built with donations
09:30of the people, believers,
09:32citizens of Kosovo,
09:34who through Dianet
09:36support the construction
09:38of this mosque in Kosovo.
09:40The good thing is that this mosque
09:42does not exceed the budget of Kosovo,
09:44does not exceed the pockets of the citizens of Kosovo,
09:46and this donation
09:48that comes from Turkey
09:50is a good thing. Why do I say this?
09:52In addition to exceeding the budget
09:54and pockets of the citizens of Kosovo,
09:56I also hope for the solidarity
09:58of the people of Kosovo and Turkey,
10:00because I think that Kosovo
10:02needs more money.
10:04We know that Kosovo also needs
10:06money from those countries
10:08that did not give it.
10:10I say with the popular speech,
10:12not in political jargon,
10:14but in the different countries
10:16that are ready to give donations
10:18and invest in our country,
10:20not only in the mosque,
10:22but also in schools, hospitals, highways.
10:24It would be a great support for Kosovo
10:26because these highways,
10:28in the last decade,
10:30cost more than 2 billion euros
10:32to the budget of Kosovo.
10:34It would be a great gift for Kosovo
10:36if we had a donor,
10:38whether Turkish, Albanian,
10:40European Union,
10:42because such donations,
10:44after the war in Kosovo,
10:46have negatively affected
10:48their investments,
10:50they have not stimulated
10:52some political, personal
10:54and other interests of the donors.
10:56Professor,
10:58there are different reasons
11:00why a mosque should be built
11:02as a reconciliation of Islam.
11:04In your opinion,
11:06is it necessary to serve
11:08as a guide in the understanding
11:10of the needs of the community?
11:12Or is it necessary to have
11:14a symbol of the Muslim community,
11:16which is an absolute myth in Kosovo,
11:18to have a small symbol
11:20in Kosovo,
11:22in the center of the city,
11:24in the center of Pristina,
11:26and if so,
11:28does it meet
11:30the needs of the community
11:32in such a project
11:34as we have seen?
11:40Professor,
11:42in your speech,
11:44you mentioned a speech
11:46and you said,
11:48why do we continue
11:50this debate?
11:52It is a very important
11:54and important question.
11:56You mean after the war?
11:58After the war.
12:00The good thing is
12:02that such debates,
12:04or not debates,
12:06as we know,
12:08I don't want to say
12:10that we continue
12:12with the same ideas,
12:14with the same goals,
12:16but people,
12:18without being well informed,
12:20lost the role,
12:22the commitment,
12:24the mission,
12:26the vision,
12:28and the work
12:30of the mosque.
12:32Like those who
12:34have not been able to
12:36communicate with the Qur'an,
12:38but also those
12:40who practice
12:42Islam,
12:44they may not know
12:46that the mosque speech,
12:48or in the Arabic language,
12:50as the Qur'an means,
12:52the mosque is
12:54among the most
12:56important speeches
12:58on this platform,
13:00both legal,
13:02philosophical,
13:04and of Islam.
13:06I don't want to talk
13:08about the academic part,
13:10because the time of television
13:12is shorter,
13:14so we don't have
13:16many opportunities
13:18to discuss the academic
13:20topics,
13:22from the speech
13:24to the serbians.
13:26Let's talk about the debate.
13:28Why is your opinion
13:30understood,
13:32and why?
13:34I have to continue
13:36where I left off.
13:38Of course, it is important
13:40to answer the question,
13:42why in this mosque?
13:44The main reason
13:46is the lack
13:48of legal information.
13:50Even those who
13:52have the right,
13:54and thank God,
13:56they are in the doorstep,
13:58they trumpeter
14:00in different media,
14:02but even those
14:04who know what the mosque is,
14:06unfortunately,
14:08in writing,
14:10in the legal, in the media,
14:12they reduce the discussion
14:14of the mosque
14:16at the highest level,
14:18as when you enter the mosque,
14:20you enter only as an object,
14:22with four walls, with domes, with minarets,
14:24that you go and speak in.
14:26If we look at the mosque
14:28only as such,
14:30none of those who go to the mosque,
14:32and none of those who do not go to the mosque,
14:34the mosque looks like
14:36some kind of caricature.
14:38In fact, the mosque,
14:40the mosque, the place where this mosque is built,
14:42the building in the mosque,
14:44has the largest dome,
14:46therefore, even the believers,
14:48wherever they see in the world,
14:50therefore, even in Kosovo,
14:52where the
14:54Islamic Republic of Kosovo is located,
14:56it is obvious
14:58that through the construction
15:00of mosques,
15:02they provide opportunities
15:04not only for prayer,
15:06but also for other activities
15:08that the believers want.
15:10No other.
15:12Let me ask you a question.
15:14You are explaining
15:16the concept of a mosque.
15:18No one is debating
15:20and discussing,
15:22there is no debate about different mosques
15:24that were built in Kosovo.
15:26Cities,
15:28churches, etc.
15:30The case of a mosque in Pristina,
15:32a large mosque, is specific.
15:34Therefore, for this mosque,
15:36it is not that they are opposing
15:38the mosque in principle,
15:40but there is a debate
15:42about this mosque,
15:44starting from the financier,
15:46the location, the architecture,
15:48etc.
15:50We are talking about a specific,
15:52we are talking about a mosque
15:54that is likely to be the main mosque
15:56in Kosovo.
15:58If you look at
16:00where these debates come from,
16:02these voices,
16:04these points,
16:06these personalities,
16:08these people,
16:10when they look at
16:12or when they read
16:14and read,
16:16in fact,
16:18the situation is clear.
16:20In 2017,
16:22I was a guest
16:24on a TV channel
16:26after
16:28perhaps
16:30the petition
16:32that was against
16:34the construction of the mosque,
16:36the petition that
16:38Il Rugova started.
16:40If Il Rugova reads
16:42partially the speech
16:44of Il Rugova and
16:46people like him,
16:48it is easy for him to understand
16:50the reason
16:52why he started
16:54the petition
16:56against people
16:58who are
17:00opposing
17:02the construction of the mosque.
17:04This person and some others
17:06who,
17:08unfortunately,
17:10are still
17:12or are still being
17:14betrayed by the communist
17:16anti-Islamists
17:18who do not
17:20want...
17:22If you look
17:24if you look
17:26if you look
17:28if you look
17:30you will see
17:32if you look
17:34you will see
17:36you will see
17:38a video that is
17:40on YouTube
17:42of that TV channel
17:44and the debate that he started
17:46with a conversation
17:48was very clear that
17:50the main point
17:52of the opposition
17:54of this mosque
17:56was in the memory
17:58of Turkey
18:00as a donor coming from the Turkish people.
18:02It was because
18:04of the location.
18:06It was because of the historical moment
18:08when it was built.
18:10All this
18:12is the result
18:14of your
18:16anti-Islamic
18:18anti-Muslim
18:20and that I consider
18:22typical communist
18:24atheists
18:26whose memory
18:28hurts you a lot.
18:30No matter
18:32what object
18:34whether it is Islam or Christianity
18:36but if you look
18:38at the mosque, it hurts you.
18:40Ok, as you say.
18:42Vissar,
18:44should we talk about a communist memory
18:46that
18:48opposes
18:50the mosque
18:52a priori
18:54or should we talk about something more concrete
18:56and about something that
18:58needs to be debated there?
19:00I am also preparing myself
19:02for this topic because I know about this mosque
19:04and I have talked to many people about it.
19:06In my opinion, I don't know
19:08who is against the construction of the mosque.
19:10I don't have a problem with the construction
19:12of the mosque as a mosque.
19:14I have a problem with the very specific aspects
19:16of the process.
19:18Transparency,
19:20financing,
19:22political symbols, etc.
19:24I don't see people who say
19:26that I am against the mosque
19:28because I am against the mosque.
19:30I see people who
19:32were against the construction of the cathedral
19:34in the way it was built,
19:36politicians,
19:38absolutely.
19:40There has been a lot of debate.
19:42Academics have written petitions
19:44against the cathedral.
19:46Today, the same academics
19:48who are against the construction
19:50of this mosque in this form.
19:52I have also been
19:54in public for a few days
19:56and I completely understood
19:58that I am not against the construction of the mosque,
20:00but I am completely against
20:02this form that was built.
20:04Which form?
20:06First of all, this mosque
20:08is not a mosque for the public.
20:10This is Erdogan's political declaration
20:12to decide
20:14once again
20:16to restore,
20:18according to the Ottomans,
20:20what could be restored,
20:22wherever there is a shortage.
20:24He knows that there is a shortage
20:26of money from Erdogan
20:28for his hegemony.
20:30If this mosque
20:32could be built
20:34as it is, with the Turkish model,
20:36with Turkish donations,
20:38it would not be a mosque for namaz,
20:40but as it is in the Quran,
20:42it would be a mosque
20:44with a different meaning
20:46in the Quran as a term,
20:48but it would be a mosque for the public.
20:50Why?
20:52This mosque,
20:54I am a journalist,
20:56but I have read Erdogan before,
20:58the idea for this mosque
21:00is not a mosque for the public,
21:02but we know that
21:04there are a lot of mosques in Pristina,
21:06and if the people want to go
21:08to a specific mosque,
21:10they can find a way.
21:12The idea came as a contrast
21:14to the cathedral.
21:16You know that in 2011
21:18Kate created the project,
21:20and it came out much better,
21:22because she came together
21:24with the cathedral,
21:26and started with her own
21:28ideas for the mosque.
21:30This mosque has the same
21:32meaning as the Quran,
21:34as a mosque for the public.
21:36It has always been a mosque for the public.
21:38It has been used by the internationals
21:40whenever there was a need.
21:42Whenever there was a need to build a mosque
21:44in front of the mosque,
21:46it was a mosque for the public
21:48and to solve their own problems.
21:50And it ended as a political declaration
21:52of a state that
21:54is trying to
21:56culturally re-arm Turkey.
21:58Turkey is trying to
22:00culturally re-arm Kosovo.
22:02It can't physically take up arms,
22:04but it is trying to remove
22:06the historical stresses
22:08and to remove the identity
22:10that was planned
22:12by the Kosovars
22:14and the Scythians
22:16in Turkey and Cawar.
22:18So, again, the idea
22:20for the restoration of Erdogan
22:22is that we should be treated
22:24as a Muslim state.
22:26And with this mosque,
22:28it will become a part
22:30of the political establishment
22:32and it will be declared
22:34a political affluent state.
22:36If it continues to be a state
22:38without any other state,
22:40it will surely be a person
22:42that will be destroyed.
22:44Okay, we have a question
22:46from Arbona Gjaran, a journalist.
22:48Arbona, good evening.
22:50Good evening.
22:52This is a debate
22:54on TV Dugagini,
22:56where you have discussed
22:58about this issue.
23:00In fact, the opinion is the same.
23:02So, it is almost the same situation
23:04that we have experienced
23:06a few times
23:08about this issue.
23:10But the question is,
23:12does Arbona support
23:14the construction of a large mosque
23:16in Pristina?
23:18These questions
23:20are very important for me.
23:22And the investments of Erdogan,
23:24the writings of Mia Advisarit
23:26and Tartan Heracis
23:28started many years ago.
23:30I was in 2012,
23:32when the first extremist
23:34Fetar Paralimrova was initiated
23:36because he is a young man
23:38starting from the third generation
23:40who were recruited
23:42by certain groups.
23:44And in 2014, I was surprised
23:46that 303 young people
23:48joined the Islamic movement.
23:50At the same time,
23:52I would like to make this connection
23:54with the current situation
23:56and the labeling
23:58that we, as journalists,
24:00who have written about
24:02anti-Islamists, Islamophobes,
24:04pro-Serbs,
24:06our machinery
24:08of direct
24:10Turkish financing,
24:12is being used
24:14to attack our country.
24:16It is very good when
24:18a video of a person
24:20from the JAKOV network appears
24:22and I have no problem with it,
24:24where he is a good example
24:26for Milosevic and for this
24:28biggest social project,
24:30it is clear that he is a liar
24:32or he is a liar.
24:34That is to say,
24:36these labels against us
24:38with facts and arguments
24:40risking Turkish investments
24:42or even for the money
24:44that they have made
24:46and, as I said,
24:48these claims are not true for us.
24:50I took part, as I said,
24:52in the negotiations for the construction
24:54of other mosques and the restoration
24:56that the municipality has done
24:58and we went into detail
25:00and we found out
25:02how the financing works.
25:04So, as I said,
25:06this is a political mosque,
25:08this is a mosque
25:10of an agenda
25:12in the last ten years
25:14because a person came
25:16and said
25:18about politicians
25:20not only in Kosovo
25:22but also in Albania, Serbia and Bosnia
25:24that he has a strategy
25:26in the Balkans.
25:28In 2018, he did not hesitate
25:30to make a political campaign
25:32in Europe, he came to Bosnia
25:34and he directed
25:36these potential Turkish voters.
25:38What have we done today?
25:40We have put Kosovo
25:42in the balloons of major media
25:44as a target
25:46of Erdogan's forces.
25:48Erdogan has a very big problem
25:50with the voters
25:52because of the initial terror
25:54caused by the Turks.
25:56We have arrested more than 200,000 people,
25:58not only in Bura,
26:00but we have 900,000 and 800,000
26:02after a few years in the Turkish borders.
26:04Our families who have lost their lives
26:06by leaving Turkey
26:08to leave the regime
26:10of Erdogan.
26:12Erdogan does not
26:14have the right to build a mosque
26:16for believers,
26:18because he terrorizes
26:20his believers in Turkey
26:22who were certainly against him.
26:24He is his accomplice
26:26whom you left
26:28from the party.
26:30We have arrested someone
26:32who in his book
26:34describes in detail Erdogan's plan
26:36for Erdogan and for Kosovo.
26:38In Kosovo, there is an ambience
26:40to support him.
26:42We know that in no country
26:44has Erdogan been allowed
26:46to kidnap Gulen.
26:48In Kosovo, Erdogan came
26:50by private plane
26:52and took Gulen.
26:54We do not know where he is now.
26:56You are under arrest
26:58because Erdogan has two plans
27:00in Kosovo.
27:02His risk is because of political Islam
27:04and the exploitation
27:06of Kosovo, of the Albanians
27:08in Kosovo, as in Albania, as in Macedonia
27:10for anti-agenda agendas.
27:12A few days ago,
27:14we received a letter
27:16from Syria
27:18saying that he came
27:20and killed in Libya
27:22in the war he is developing.
27:24In all the reports
27:26we received in 2018,
27:28we received a letter
27:30from a newspaper
27:32where he is planning
27:34the establishment of an Islamic army
27:36against Israel
27:38and in the future
27:40against Kosovo and the Albanians.
27:42This is the risk.
27:44He did not create a mosque.
27:46He created a mosque
27:48by Erdogan
27:50with specific agendas.
27:52Arban, focus on the line
27:54because we are discussing
27:56with Gzim,
27:58the leader of the FIOLA party.
28:00Gzim and Arban
28:02and Vissari
28:04say that
28:06this is a political declaration
28:08of Erdogan in Kosovo
28:10and it is a mosque
28:12which Vissari says
28:14is a political mosque
28:16and a mosque of the nation.
28:18I believe that
28:20Kosovo's journalists,
28:22Vissari and Arban have
28:24the freedom of speech
28:26and the right to doubt.
28:28I believe that
28:30we cannot say
28:32that a mosque,
28:34a mosque is created
28:36by the donations
28:38of the believers
28:40in Turkey
28:42through the internet.
28:44Why do I say this?
28:46The reason is
28:48that a short time ago
28:50we had the internet in Cyprus,
28:52abroad,
28:54with a lot of material
28:56about Kosovo.
28:58We are talking about the mosque.
29:00In all the mosques of Kosovo
29:02there was an action
29:04by the believers,
29:06by Gzimati,
29:08to open the walls
29:10and to show the image of Cyprus.
29:12And let's say
29:14that Erdogan
29:16through the internet
29:18creates a mosque,
29:20it is the same
29:22with the Cypriots
29:26Because the internet
29:28is not an organization.
29:30It is a state institution.
29:32It is a state institution.
29:34Erdogan is the president of Turkey.
29:36Yes, but the money
29:38does not belong to Erdogan.
29:40The money does not belong to the budget.
29:42But with your vote
29:44what is the difference?
29:46What is the difference?
29:48What is the difference?
29:50What is the difference?
29:52What is the difference?
29:54What is the difference
29:56between giving the president of Kosovo
29:58a donation for a mosque
30:00from TOSL?
30:02What is the difference?
30:04Why does he represent the state?
30:06He represents the state
30:08to promote himself.
30:10Very good.
30:12Very good.
30:14There are institutions
30:16that say what they want.
30:18There are institutions that say
30:20that he is a hegemonist
30:22and that he wants to
30:24influence the countries
30:26where he has founded
30:28the Osman Foundation.
30:30Let me tell you the truth.
30:32Let me tell you the truth.
30:34Let me tell you the truth.
30:36What is important for us
30:38as a state
30:40is that we have had
30:42before the war, during the war
30:44and after the war,
30:46the support of Turkey.
30:48Not only in Kosovo,
30:50but also in Albania.
30:52We have the case of Tansu Cileri
30:54when he was protected
30:56from the Greek invasion in 1997.
30:58Turkey is the ally
31:00of the main ally of Kosovo.
31:02Why is it so, Mr. President?
31:04Why is it so, Mr. President?
31:06Erdogan, Erdogan, Erdogan.
31:08Why is it so, Mr. President?
31:10If Turkey has claimed
31:12that it is the ally
31:14of the main ally of Turkey,
31:16what is important to Turkey
31:18if Erdogan forces
31:20the people to build
31:22mosques, schools, buildings?
31:24Logically.
31:26I believe in the Hague.
31:28I believe in the Hague.
31:30Okay.
31:32Mr. President,
31:34the focus is the current mosque,
31:36but I think that for the last 20 years
31:38or 18 years,
31:40as I remember Erdogan said,
31:42when asked about the model
31:44we would have done that a person, not only in connection with Kosovo and the region,
31:47but as long as Erdogan has a connection with three continents of the world.
31:50Yes, that's true.
31:52Turkey is an example, thank God.
31:58Erdogan, for these 18 years that he has been a supporter of Turkey,
32:04Kosovo, as it happens, in one month...
32:06What do you mean 18 years?
32:08Well, he came with a free vote.
32:10Free vote?
32:11For these 18 years that he has been a supporter of Turkey,
32:13Kosovo, as it happens, in one month,
32:15in the field of economics,
32:17in the field of training of FSC cadres,
32:19mainly pilots,
32:21the training of pilots costs
32:23payments of
32:25100 drams per hour in Kosovo.
32:27He has made much more investments
32:29in the economy of the country.
32:31The economy has not benefited.
32:33Doesn't mean that because of this
32:35it should be destroyed.
32:37No, no, I didn't mean that.
32:39You didn't mean that
32:41they are inadequate,
32:43that they don't need...
32:45For these 18 years Turkey,
32:47mainly Erdogan, has made investments
32:49in the economy of the country,
32:51with special focus on FSC in Kosovo.
32:53He has done business in these countries.
32:55No, no, just for the end.
32:57After two mandates,
32:59deputies have had direct financing
33:01and support of FSC in the economy of Kosovo.
33:03At the moment when a mosque is built
33:0520 years after the war in Kosovo,
33:07we say that Erdogan is building a mosque,
33:09but it's not true.
33:11Secondly,
33:13since Erdogan has become
33:15the president of Turkey,
33:17terrorist attacks have occurred
33:19in 95% of all the countries in the world.
33:21Therefore, Erdogan should be thanked
33:23because he has avoided
33:25all terrorist attacks in the world.
33:27And not only in the countries in the world.
33:29What did he say?
33:31From the main countries...
33:33Are you saying that he has done
33:35all the terrorist attacks in the world?
33:37I don't understand.
33:39Because the terrorist attacks
33:41that have invaded Turkey,
33:43because Turkey has had personal problems
33:45with the terrorist attacks
33:47that have engaged in Syria.
33:49Not only has he protected his country
33:51from terrorist attacks,
33:53while fighting terrorist organizations,
33:55but he has also protected
33:57the refugee countries.
33:59He has also defended the refugee agreement.
34:01Therefore, today we cannot say
34:03that Kosovo and Cyprus
34:05have violated the reports
34:07of the past governments.
34:09We do not support Erdogan
34:11and the refugee countries.
34:13It is normal for a politician
34:15to have violations,
34:17but the refugee countries
34:19and the United States
34:21are good people
34:23in supporting Erdogan in the region.
34:25So this is not a political declaration
34:27of Erdogan in Kosovo?
34:29No, not at all.
34:31I believe that Erdogan's intervention
34:33in Kosovo has been more
34:35at the national level
34:37than at the federal level.
34:39Turkey's policies in Kosovo
34:41have maximally supported
34:43Turkish citizens,
34:45the Turkish community in Kosovo,
34:47ten times more than what
34:49has been done in the federal aspect
34:51or in the municipalities.
34:53We all know that.
34:55Look at how much support
34:57the Turkish community has given
34:59to Erdogan in the federal aspect.
35:01Turkey has given this support
35:03through Yanet and not Erdogan.
35:05In fact, Arbona has written
35:07that this is not
35:09the first mosque they are building.
35:11Arbona,
35:13my question is
35:15that this is
35:17one of the first buildings
35:19they built for a mosque.
35:21No, no.
35:23It was built in 2011
35:25and in 2014 in 30 new mosques.
35:27Other buildings have been renovated.
35:29For example,
35:31the Mosque of Sinan Pasha in Prizren,
35:33where after the renovation
35:35the Shiite imam was removed
35:37and a Turkish imam
35:39was replaced by a Turkish imam.
35:41My question is
35:43that
35:45even though he is the head
35:47of the Kosovo's military,
35:49he is a corrupt official.
35:51We have had,
35:53along with many others,
35:55many corrupt officials
35:57and it is up to him
35:59what to do.
36:01In one of his first letters
36:03to Al-Qaeda,
36:05he wrote
36:07that this is not
36:09a credible figure.
36:11It is true that
36:13he has invested
36:1510 billion dollars
36:17in all the Balkans
36:19in the last 10 years.
36:21Yes, in investments
36:23even when he closed
36:25the airport.
36:27Professor Arban,
36:29I don't know if you know
36:31how much money he has
36:33invested.
36:35Leo, let me finish.
36:37He came,
36:39he bought the main assets
36:41in energy, infrastructure
36:43and in many Muslim countries
36:45he built mosques
36:47and other projects
36:49which, for example,
36:51he has organized schools
36:53to teach Quran.
36:55But what is the risk today?
36:57It is a propaganda
36:59when it is said that he is
37:01the other side of the deal.
37:03We all know that in Erdogan's
37:05order in the beginning,
37:07in the first days, he created
37:09the Turkish economy
37:11but what happened after
37:13when he started to spread
37:15the religion,
37:17he started to create problems
37:19and he started to suppress
37:21the secularism of Turkey
37:23when he started to attack
37:25his political opponents.
37:27Today he is spreading the Quran
37:29and he is trying to suppress
37:31the Quran in a way
37:33that will not let him
37:35live in doubt.
37:37So, what happened?
37:39We have to inform the public.