00:00Mark and I, when we were initially united on this,
00:04when he was sort of drafted into the project,
00:07he took a trip out to stay in Chicago,
00:10and we spent about two days
00:13beating together an outline together
00:15that was really only loose at the start of it.
00:17Lobbing the ball back and forth,
00:19to me, that's the fun part.
00:21It's no fun to sit in a room by myself
00:24and hope I come up with an idea.
00:26The exciting thing is bouncing ideas back and forth
00:29and trying to one-up the other guy,
00:31and trying to escalate,
00:33and trying to, in a playful way, sort of outdo.
00:36Oh, you got an idea? I got a better idea.
00:39I remember the specific moment when it clicked for me,
00:42which was Alex was talking about, in the end,
00:45he wants everything to go back to
00:47Superman being Clark Kent again,
00:49and I had this mental image of Clark
00:52just taking a pair of glasses
00:54and putting them back on his face
00:56for the first time in the series.
00:58And that moment, that was just one little image,
01:00but that was the moment where I thought,
01:02okay, I got it, I know what we're doing now.
01:04To be perfectly honest, I was really excited
01:06about the fact that I knew this was going to be something,
01:08and I really liked Alex's work.
01:10At first, it wasn't, oh, boy,
01:12I got a million story ideas,
01:14and that's what I'm excited about, I'm going to dive in.
01:16It was more like, no, I think I'm on the beginning of something,
01:18I'm on the cusp of something that could be really great.
01:21And that's what got me all revved up,
01:23but as we started talking,
01:25as we started knocking ideas back and forth,
01:27I just became more and more excited
01:29about the possibilities of looking
01:31at the future of the DC universe.
01:33I know it meant a lot to him
01:35to see that where we were going with this thing,
01:38he got a sense, an epiphany himself,
01:40of like, there's going to be a lot of attention towards this,
01:43and there's going to be something of this
01:46that will be with us for years to come.
01:48So it would weigh on us
01:50the way it would be perceived for all time to come.
01:53But I always had this sense of like,
01:55oh, when people see this thing,
01:57they're going to be reading it for years and years to come.
02:00So I had this very self-absorbed sort of sense that like,
02:04oh, I'm making a legend right now.
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