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"We are Ready to Sit with Establishment..." Rauf Hassan's Huge Statement
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"We are Ready to Sit with Establishment..." Rauf Hassan's Huge Statement
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You said in our program that it would be wrong to say to the establishment that there is no discussion at all.
00:04
In fact, there has been a breakthrough in the context of the day when the Jalsa was cancelled.
00:08
Was it the date of 22nd August or was it 22nd August, the day of Islamabad?
00:11
Yes, 22nd August.
00:12
Then you said that in fact the next Jalsa's commitment was given to us by the establishment.
00:18
On 8th September.
00:20
On 8th September. Yes, that is also a fact.
00:22
And then you said that now, responding to a question, you said that how can that Jalsa be held?
00:27
We will be able to ascertain from that whether that commitment is honourable or not,
00:31
or whether there is a breakthrough or not.
00:33
Now that Jalsa has been held.
00:34
Now what is your analysis?
00:35
Is that commitment or that breakthrough from the establishment still there or did it reverse gear or did it go ahead?
00:41
Look, the contact with the establishment is with the provincial government, KP.
00:46
You know, there is a restive province, KP Wasim Sahib.
00:50
And there, you know, intelligence agencies are involved.
00:55
The army is involved because of, you know, various challenges, you know, that are faced in that province.
01:00
So, there is a continuing engagement with them.
01:04
How the Jalsa was held, frankly, its praise or allegations in that regard will come on the welfare government.
01:14
That they had made the whole city a container.
01:18
They had blocked 29 places.
01:20
So, frankly, that was an issue of the district administration.
01:22
We blame them.
01:24
Our statements have also come in that regard.
01:26
Now, we are dealing with the district administration in this regard.
01:32
They have to give permission.
01:34
Whether they give permission or not, or what they do, frankly,
01:36
the same allegations will remain for that if they do not give us permission.
01:40
As far as the contact with the establishment is concerned,
01:43
I have repeatedly come to many programs and said that this is the policy of the PTI
01:49
that we want to engage with the establishment.
01:52
We want to engage with them even today.
01:54
In fact, I gave statements one step ahead.
01:57
And I am absolutely convinced that that statement is correct.
02:00
That a dialogue between the PTI and the establishment has become essential for this state.
02:08
And we should not delay in that.
02:10
The establishment and the PTI should sit on a table and start talking.
02:16
So that the problems of the country can be solved and the country can be moved forward.
02:21
This is inevitable.
02:22
This is bound to happen.
02:23
If not today, it will happen tomorrow.
02:24
If not tomorrow, it will happen the day after tomorrow.
02:25
We are ready for this.
02:27
And we are ready even today.
02:29
We want to engage with them in every possible way.
02:31
If I complete this sentence, it will be fine that it is the policy of the PTI
02:34
that we want to engage with the establishment.
02:36
We want to talk.
02:37
And at least in today's date, it is their policy that we do not want to talk at all.
02:42
I completely disagree with this latter part.
02:46
I will not say that this is not their policy at all.
02:48
They have engaged with the PTI.
02:50
So why should I expect so much that they will engage again?
02:53
Do they want to engage?
02:55
When did they engage?
02:56
For that, we will have to create an environment.
02:59
For that, we will have to try.
03:01
And we will have to try from there too.
03:03
Create an environment so that both parties sit on the table and talk about the country.
03:08
Talk about the state.
03:10
Talk about moving forward.
03:12
We have many challenges.
03:14
When did they engage?
03:16
There is a big wall in the way of solving those challenges.
03:21
We will have to bring it down.
03:23
What do you mean by saying that the 22nd Jalsa should not be held in Islamabad
03:25
because religious communities are coming?
03:27
What do you mean by engaging them?
03:29
Look, they talked to us.
03:31
We engaged with them.
03:33
They are engaged after that too.
03:35
I call it engagement.
03:37
I do not want to come with any special praise of engagement.
03:39
This is a natural process.
03:41
The biggest political party in Pakistan,
03:43
which is also governing in a province,
03:45
should have a contact with the establishment.
03:47
And those contacts should increase.
03:49
And those contacts should be used for the betterment of the country.
03:53
This is my intention.
03:55
And I repeatedly express it.
03:57
I used to do it before and I do it today.
03:59
And I will continue to do it.
04:01
The solution to the problems of this country is in the dialogue, Mr. Waseem Badani.
04:03
When I have talked to you two or three times,
04:05
I have told you in this regard.
04:07
I have always considered your response to be positive in that regard.
04:12
Dialogue is something that cannot be averted.
04:15
We cannot avoid it.
04:17
Ultimately, we have to sit at the table and talk.
04:19
We have to move forward.
04:21
We do not want to use guns against each other.
04:23
We will try to avoid each other.
04:25
We will have a session in which
04:27
all the participants
04:29
will discuss the party policy.
04:31
We will talk about how to move forward
04:33
when the country is stuck.
04:35
We will talk about this.
04:37
I am telling you on-area.
04:39
Sir, let's conclude this conversation.
04:41
You are saying that we have to improve the environment.
04:43
We have to improve the environment.
04:45
The statements coming from the jail
04:47
can only improve the environment.
04:49
Sometimes there is a tweet that
04:51
Yaya Khan is part two.
04:53
Sometimes there is a tweet that
04:55
he is an architect of the London plan
04:57
and is related to the army chief.
04:59
How can he improve the environment?
05:01
Have you ever seen the statements
05:03
of the party chief,
05:05
Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif,
05:07
who is the Prime Minister of the party
05:09
that is sitting in the government today?
05:11
What did he say?
05:13
In spite of that,
05:15
within months,
05:17
that party is sitting in the government.
05:19
It has been two and a half years
05:21
since it has been sitting in the government.
05:23
A lot happens in political politics.
05:25
We are the puppets of mistakes.
05:27
We are not infallible.
05:29
We all make mistakes.
05:31
We make mistakes from time to time.
05:33
But this does not mean
05:35
that we cannot sit with each other
05:37
or that we should not sit with each other.
05:40
I am a firm believer.
05:42
My political think tank
05:44
conducts dialogues.
05:46
I am a committed person.
05:48
I teach.
05:50
I am a senior fellow at King's College.
05:52
My subject is
05:54
peace and conflict resolution.
05:56
I have a commitment
05:58
that this country cannot move forward
06:00
without peace.
06:02
And peace will be established
06:04
when the PTI is taken on board.
06:06
Peace cannot be achieved
06:08
without peace.
06:10
Don't forget the fact
06:12
that PTI is Pakistan's largest
06:14
and most popular political party.
06:16
We wish you the best of luck.
06:18
We wish you the best of luck.
06:20
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06:26
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We wish you the best of luck.
06:40
We wish you the best of luck.
06:42
We wish you the best of luck.
06:44
We wish you the best of luck.
06:46
He has come to a very important position
06:48
and he has a lot of responsibilities
06:50
on his shoulders.
06:52
I am sure he will try his best.
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