Practice and Procedure Lana Hukoomat Ka Theek Faisla? PTI Rehnuma Umair Niazi Ki Raye Kya Hai? ?

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00:00When this law was coming, we know very well that Tariq-e-Insaaf was opposing it.

00:04You were saying that there is no problem in the law, but the time is wrong, the intention is wrong.

00:09In hindsight, do you think that bringing the practice and procedure bill was the right decision by the government at that time?

00:18Look, our opinion was not like this.

00:21The main thing to see is that the courts are an independent institution.

00:26We believe in the principle of independence of judiciary.

00:29And the law gives the power of rulemaking to the Supreme Court.

00:33Our opinion was that the Supreme Court should do its own rulemaking and devise its own process.

00:38In that, how the Supreme Court should work and how justice should be dispensed,

00:43this is not to be told by the Parliament.

00:45This has to be decided by the Supreme Court itself.

00:47If this thing is intervened from the outside, then you will definitely get important cases.

00:51But Mr. Niazi, my question is not this.

00:53My question is that in hindsight, do you think that bringing the practice and procedure bill

00:58was the right decision by the government at that time?

01:04Because now you are defending that it should not be changed further.

01:07It is very good.

01:08Three people have the power in it.

01:10No, no, I am not saying this.

01:13I am saying that this was purely the power of the Supreme Court.

01:16Their rules were present in the Supreme Court.

01:19If they could amend their rules and bring such a thing,

01:22if the Supreme Court could feel, then the Supreme Court could have done it itself.

01:25There was no need for the intervention of the government in this.

01:28And today, they are negating their own act.

01:31They are not standing on what they have brought.

01:33They themselves are thinking that what we brought was wrong.

01:36Now the need for time is something else.

01:38Because their intention is not dispensation of justice.

01:40Their intention is to control the Supreme Court.

01:43Which cases should be heard in the Supreme Court and which cases are going to come,

01:47which can disturb them, which amendments they have to take again,

01:52which can be a hindrance in their path.

01:54They are arranging to stop all these things.

01:56Right.

01:57What you just said, today Mr. Moolana Fazur Rehman did a very interesting press conference.

02:01Mr. Rana, you listen.

02:02Then I will ask you a question related to this.

02:04He said that the ordinance that has come today,

02:06the people's party and JVYF were being discussed in this regard,

02:12there will be difficulties in that.

02:14What did Mr. Moolana say?

02:16Listen to this.

02:17I have seen it in detail.

02:20They are bypassing the work that they could not do in the parliament and bringing it through the ordinance.

02:26So the ordinance will be based on injustice and there will be objections to it.

02:30When the people's party has spoken to us and we have taken their discussion seriously,

02:35and we want to agree on the package on these matters very seriously.

02:40If such an ordinance is issued by the presidency,

02:44then it is obvious that he is also the president,

02:47but he is also the co-chairman of the people's party.

02:49So he is changing the direction of his party between the people's party of Pakistan and the JVYF.

02:59Yes, Mr. Rana.

03:00With the help of Mr. Fazur Rehman, you will bring the Aynitra meme or even bypass it.

03:04Anyway, the people's party is negotiating with them.

03:07After today's ordinance, Mr. Moolana has declared it as a spoiler.

03:12He has said that if this is to be negotiated in the future, then it will have an impact on Aynitra meme.

03:21Look, we are also engaging with Mr. Moolana.

03:26The Prime Minister also met him a few days ago.

03:29And even now we understand that we have to move towards a larger consensus.

03:33We have to consult all the parties and take their advice.

03:39This is the spirit of any Aynitra meme.

03:43So we are moving in the same direction.

03:45Mr. Moolana, this is the right of the government.

03:48If PTI says that why are they bringing the ordinance,

03:52then when R. F. Albi was the president,

03:55he used to stand in front of the door with a Siddharthi peacock

03:58and the ordinances were being passed.

04:01The government now feels that we need to bring this improvement in the practice and procedure bill.

04:10And we have brought it.

04:12What is the hurry, Mr. Pirana?

04:15Because Aynitra meme also showed haste.

04:17The numbers were not complete.

04:18Now it has become a joke.

04:20Now you are seeing that all the public discourse is his.

04:23It is embarrassing for the government in front of the media.

04:28If you had such suggestions for Aynitra meme,

04:33then what is the need to bring the ordinance?

04:35Wait and build consensus.

04:37Bring the rest too.

04:39What is the hurry?

04:40It seems that there is very little time.

04:42Is there any work that you have to do before this Aynitra meme?

04:45Or you had to bring this ordinance?

04:47The Aynitra meme that we have brought is not in a hurry.

04:50If we are saying that you will not break the queue

04:53and you will not put anything in the background,

04:57then what is wrong in this?

04:59It is not that any work will go towards corruption or we will get any favor.

05:04The thing is that one thing should be done under the procedure.

05:07Here, if we are saying that there should be a transcript,

05:11then you should write it.

05:13It comes on the formation of the committee again and again, Mr. Pirana.

05:15The problem is that it seems that you have changed the committee very quickly

05:19and are expecting some special changes.

05:23The urgency does not make sense.

05:26When the homework is not complete.

05:28The government understands that the Aynitra meme is needed.

05:31We have brought the Aynitra meme.

05:33We have brought it because there is a lot of room for improvement in your judiciary.

05:38If we are in a hurry, then the result is also there.

05:42Now the government understands that we have to move towards a larger consensus.

05:46The timing of the government can be critiqued at any time.

05:50Whenever we go to do any work, you will say that it is happening quickly

05:53or the government wants to take any benefit from it.

05:56But these things are long-term.

05:59So this critique is valid at all times.

06:02The opposition can do it.

06:04Like you just asked them that this was the practice and procedure bill

06:07which you were not allowing to happen and you were criticizing it.

06:10And the reason you are telling is that they should make their own rules.

06:14While the constitution is very clear in Article 191

06:16that subject to the constitution and law, the Supreme Court may make rules.

06:21This is Article 191.

06:23So the constitution and law should be made in the parliament.

06:27And they are subject to it.

06:28Now you can twist it as you want.

06:31But the government understands that it is necessary at this time.

06:34We have brought the ordinance.

06:36If someone has an objection, someone thinks that someone's importance is going to be reduced,

06:41then the doors of the courts are open for them.

06:45The doors of the courts are open, Mr. Niazi.

06:47What are your expectations?

06:49What are your concerns?

06:51If an ordinance is being brought in this way,

06:53do you have any political objectives?

06:55Do you have any specific objectives?

06:57Political?

07:00The political objective is very clear.

07:03The review of Article 63A?

07:06The review of Article 63A?

07:08I am coming to that.

07:09The result did not come out of the three-week session.

07:12Now they want the review of Article 63A to be fixed immediately.

07:17Why should it not be fixed?

07:19Tell us why it should not be fixed.

07:21Mr. Rana, please complete it.

07:23Then I will give you a chance to answer.

07:25Carry on, Mr. Umair.

07:27Basically, the objective of Article 63A has to be achieved in some way.

07:32Whether Mr. Maulana is on board or not.

07:35Whether we break the senators from anywhere and complete those numbers.

07:38Whether we break the MPs from behind and complete them.

07:40And because of that, you have seen that the Speaker gave them breathing space first.

07:45This is all connected.

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