00:00The latest information leads us to Ramon Mejia, because something has to be done with the violence in high schools,
00:07and it doesn't seem that the teachers or the structure is adapted to this new type of conflict.
00:16It happened in Ramon Mejia, a boy stabbed another, that's how it was.
00:22And Mercedes Mora has more details of this story.
00:2717 years old, Rolando, the boy who brought that knife,
00:32which started a discussion inside the classroom with another 16-year-old boy,
00:36apparently due to a debt of money, that is, the 14,000 pesos that one owed to the other.
00:41This discussion escalates and ends with a teenager taking the knife out of his backpack
00:47and stabbing the other in the armpit area.
00:50A stab that pierces the lung of the 16-year-old boy who was operated in the hospital Posadas.
00:58He was immediately transferred here, even to relatives,
01:01because the 16-year-old boy's name is Santino.
01:04His uncle works in the school's buffet.
01:06We are in school number 6, precisely in Ramon Mejia.
01:10And you were talking about, of course, this situation that schools cannot somehow warn
01:17that they come armed, that they come with knives.
01:20Well, it's not the first time it happens in this school,
01:23and this is what is alarming parents.
01:25Because last week there was another conflict.
01:28There, in your story, I stopped on a subject, to see if I'm wrong or not.
01:36The debt, why was it?
01:4014,000 pesos that Santino owed to this 17-year-old boy.
01:46This is the first version that is known.
01:48But do you know why it was the debt?
01:52It is not known at the moment.
01:54Because one of the things that is being seen now is the issue of gambling debts.
02:00I mean, this is the new thing.
02:02In children, the problem of online gambling now generates this kind of thing,
02:06gambling debts in adolescents.
02:09And well, adults will be able to handle it in a way, with more or less patience,
02:14or with more or less professionalism, if they are lenders.
02:17But in adolescents it is something else.
02:19There you have to see, then, beyond the conflict,
02:23because usually the conflicts between adolescents are usually due to bullying,
02:26or by girls, or by ...
02:28But if you also start to see other problems, like debts,
02:32and in this case, gambling debts, we are in a type of conflict
02:35about which schools are far less prepared today.
02:40Much less.
02:42And it is true that today a boy, in this case they are adolescents,
02:46has the possibility of this game at hand, because it is through a cell phone.
02:50Before it existed, but it has become a little more difficult at this age, access.
02:54Well, now, as everything is at hand, it is a cell phone.
02:58And sometimes one warns the situation at home.
03:01Parents in the press begin to block cards.
03:04Well, these debts may possibly be generated.
03:07Here, beyond this, which will surely need attention, Rolando,
03:11let me tell you that it is not the first time that a boy comes armed.
03:15Last week there was another problem, another conflict.
03:18Fight between boys where one also takes out the knife, threatens the other,
03:22does not end up hurting him, but with the presence of the knife in the backpack.
03:26And it is not known exactly what schools do in the face of this.
03:30What is the protocol?
03:31No, of course.
03:32They expel that boy.
03:33Because there are like two libraries.
03:35There is a library that says, look, you have to expel him,
03:37the boy has a behavior problem, let him go.
03:39And there is another instruction to say, you have to contain him,
03:44well, you have to process the conflict.
03:46And it ends up being this, that the message for the aggressive boy is,
03:50keep going, keep going.
03:51And for the aggressive boy, I have to change schools, because this guy stayed.
03:57Well, today they cannot expel him because they cannot leave him without schooling.
04:01So they can suspend him, they can change him from shift
04:06until the boy and the boy's family get another school to be transferred to.
04:11In the meantime, he has to keep coming to class, even if it's another shift.
04:14This is the conflict that the school has today.
04:17Because what happens?
04:18Last week one of the armed boys came.
04:20Seven years ago, a boy came in here with a firearm, ammunition and knives,
04:24with the threat of killing all his classmates,
04:26who in fact was a headline in all the news.
04:29Evidently, it comes from a drag.
04:31And what the boys did yesterday is not come to class.
04:34They have decided it between the families.
04:37There are two levels of analysis.
04:39On the one hand, evidently, a teenager who goes with a knife,
04:42or who goes with a gun, has a behavioral problem,
04:45and you have to treat him and you have to support him.
04:47But you must not lose sight of the fact that the aggressive boy is the real victim.
04:51The first thing to take care of and protect is the aggressor.
04:54I understand that the other one is also a boy who is with a gun.
04:58But the first thing to defend is the aggressor.
05:01You pointed out, Rolo, a few minutes ago, the issue of gambling debts.
05:05An increasing conflict, people who work, I have close people,
05:09who work in psychological offices of schools.
05:13Well, everything that is the issue of mental health disorders,
05:17anxiety, everything that has to do with gambling debts,
05:21they appear more and more frequently.
05:23And also the issue of some consumption linked to addictions.
05:27There are three universes, three universes that are almost at the same level.
05:31Now, in this particular case, some point out that the debt out there
05:35had to do with that component, others also point out that it had to do
05:39with a sale of clothes that was not sold on time.
05:43Whatever the issue, it records several precedents.
05:47Not only this school, but others in reference to the area.
05:49We ourselves have given, in addition to what Mechita just mentioned on the phone,
05:53the issue that another student last week in this same institution
05:56was with a white weapon.
05:58They should do a workshop on violence, on the treatment of anger.
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