00:00I've got to say, it's great to see you in, well, a Beetlejuice film, sure, but a Tim Burton film.
00:04Yeah, yeah. I was very happily working with him, yes.
00:08So when the role came to you, did he tell you straight up, it's going to be another Beetlejuice film,
00:12or was it kind of like, would you like to be in a film with me?
00:15You know, he just said, listen, I'm doing this thing, it's a continuation of the Beetlejuice story,
00:22and I've got this thing that I'd love you to do, and he explained it, and I said fine.
00:27I think even before I read the script, because there were just fragments at that point, I think, as far as my role.
00:35But I've followed him for years, and I really like his movies, and he's an important part of movies, if you ask me.
00:44So, you know, I tease him, I say, what took you so long, man?
00:48What did he say to that?
00:50Yeah, he gets nervous, you know. He's got his reasons, I'm sure.
00:54Well, I mean, it's a match made in heaven. Your character is so fun, and he's kind of in his own film, in a way.
01:00It is. I mean, he's kind of a sidebar on the whole main story, but it's fun, because I get to, you know,
01:07kind of make fun of actors, I get to make fun of law enforcement people, I get to make fun of...
01:13Well, I'm struck, when I think about it, I think the best joke is that the guy dies, but it really doesn't change him at all.
01:21You know, it's just another version of his life, so...
01:24So ignorance is bliss, even in death?
01:26Yeah.
01:27Yeah, it's great.
01:28Narcissism.
01:29Oh, narcissism is bliss. When you're kind of on set, and you see, you know, these actors playing these characters that...
01:37I'm asking myself, what the hell am I doing here?
01:40Must be some weird fever dream.
01:42And then that's the question I answer, by trying to be there, you know.
01:44Yeah.
01:45Trying to fold in with the world. It's a very complete world. It's really fun. You know, I can only say kind of sweet things,
01:55because it was fun, and Tim is very particular, because he's very energetic, and he's one of those directors that does everything.
02:03And he's working with people that he's collaborated with before, and in this case, working with many people that were in the original cast.
02:12So it was kind of a sweet thing to take part in.
02:15It must be nice for you, as well. You know, you're very hard-working, actually, in a lot of films, and there must be a lot of unknowns sometimes.
02:21So with this, it's kind of stress-free, in a sense?
02:24A little bit. I mean, it was... You know, you're trying to find out, you know, how best to serve the film,
02:30because it is like a part of the ensemble, and you're trying to see how you...
02:34You're just trying to find the tone and the style, and try to contribute something that's fun.
02:40And you know that when you're going into it. It's not a heavy lift, in the sense that you're not carrying the movie.
02:47And so the main thing is to find the tone, and have the fun, and try to make Tim laugh, and invent a few things,
02:55and not have it be flat, you know, have something be specific about it.
03:00But you're helped a lot by a beautiful costume, and the sets are incredible, and then I have this makeup that is very specific.
03:09I recognise this post-servicing attitude for my life, or after life.
03:18Something I'd like to ask actors such as yourselves, who, you know, you've been in so many films, right?
03:23An illustrious actor. Over the years, there are certain films that land, and there are certain films that are great,
03:30but they just don't reach the audience for whatever reason.
03:32It happens all the time, yeah.
03:33Is there anything, kind of, from your career that you look back at, and you think,
03:36I would pluck that out as a film that should be on a pedestal, I really wish more people had eyes on?
03:41There's many.
03:42There's many?
03:43No, there's many, in the respect that I've done a lot of independent movies,
03:47and sometimes they just don't get a leg up, you know, they just, because there's not a big commitment of money,
03:55it's an independent film, so if they don't find their way immediately,
03:59nobody's trying to figure out a way to get it out there, because there's not a big investment, you know?
04:06Or, they can be a beautiful film, but they may not be the easiest film,
04:10because they're very specific, or they're very personal, or aesthetically they're kind of radical,
04:19and people aren't used to it, so, you know, the general public, you know, goes to movies to kind of escape,
04:27where some of the best movies are movies that really challenge you and make you work a little bit and think about your life.
04:34So, you know, that's kind of counter the impulse to escape.
04:39But listen, movies can do all kinds of things, and I'm always struck by sometimes there's a beautiful movie that doesn't do very well,
04:47and there's terrible movies that do very well, so it's all about timing, and it's always a roll of the dice,
04:54and that's why you just have to be responsible for what you can be responsible for.
04:59Be there, do it, believe in it, support people, you know, find a way and make it the best you can.
05:08And then, of course, it comes out of your hands and becomes something else, being, you know, editors in the director's medium in the end.
05:16So, you've got to let it go, so not be too obsessed with the outcome.
05:23Be obsessed with, you know, being there and making something special for you, you know, making it specific.
05:30And I guess that's all you can do.
05:32Yeah.
05:33Because if you fret too much about whether it's going to be a success or not,
05:37then I think you start to pull back and don't entertain certain impulses.
05:42Exactly.
05:43I mean, I think that's pretty clear.
05:44Yeah. One final question before we wrap up.
05:46This being, you know, a legacy sequel, essentially.
05:49Yes.
05:50One that I was very happy to see.
05:51Good.
05:52Out of films of yours in the past, do you think there's anything ripe for a legacy sequel?
05:57I'm putting you on the spot here.
05:59I'm not in the business of legacy sequels.
06:02And also, you need the movie to be a big success.
06:05Yeah.
06:06How about Last Temptation 2?
06:08Perfect.
06:09Antichrist 2.
06:11I'm trying to think of some good ones.
06:14Siberia 2.
06:16I have.
06:17I've watched that.
06:18Togo goes to Hollywood.
06:20I don't know.
06:22I'm up for Last Temptation, all right?
06:24If you see Marty, you've got to tell him.
06:25That's the one.
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