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From Eating Cats To Childless Cat Lady Endorsements: The Harris/Trump Debate
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1 year ago
Dave Briggs reviews the presidential debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump with MarketWatch's Washington Bureau Chief, Rob Schroeder. Watch!
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In the long-storied history of U.S. presidential debates, they rarely, if ever, matter.
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This election cycle, however, has flipped that dynamic with two of the most impactful
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debates of all time.
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Following historical patterns, though, policy once again had nothing whatsoever to do with
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it.
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Dogs, cats, and yes, eating pets, is Rob Schroeder, Washington Bureau Chief for Market
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Watch.
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Rob, safe to say you had no clue we might talk about this this morning, but here we
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are.
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Where did this rumor, this conspiracy come from, and what do you make of it?
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Yeah, good morning, Dave.
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Didn't quite expect this to come up at a debate that did have its policy moments, but yeah,
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as you said, this was sort of one of those breakout moments of this faceoff between President
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Trump and Vice President Harris.
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Really, this got started this week when Senator Vance, who was President Trump's running mate,
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put on social media that his office had gotten inquiries about Haitian migrants abducting
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pets.
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Senator Vance did acknowledge that this could be false, but it did come up last night.
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Vice President Harris, I think, effectively got President Trump to talk about this, leading
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to lots of posts on social medias and memes and so on, that sort of thing.
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Probably not a way into serious policy discussion, but it does speak to one of President Trump's
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key issues and key issues for many voters, which is the issue of immigration, legal,
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illegal and so forth.
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This is something that he talks about quite a bit and I think was probably listened to
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with interest by many in his base and who probably would have been voting for him anyway,
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while others may have been scratching their heads about where on earth this came from.
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In terms of policy, did he have any moments where he did land a punch?
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He really talked a lot about his tariff plans, of course, his tax plans, his immigration
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plans and to the extent that they do discuss the impact on the economy.
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One thing to make out of the debate really is to do a sort of tale of the tape.
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Media shares this morning were slumping, solar energy stocks were rising and so we associate
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each of those, of course, with the different candidates.
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What this points to is Vice President Harris having a pretty good night and in fact, she's
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up this morning quite a bit in the betting markets, the prediction markets in which people
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actually put money on how they think these things are going to go.
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So yeah, there was an effect, you could say, in the markets from the debate and what they
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said on policy issues.
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That's a great point about Trump media, the stock down 16% at last check.
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So Kamala Harris, the pressure was really on her because she's had just one interview,
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so many questions from the American public.
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Do you think she answered them?
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What do you think of her performance?
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She got closer to explaining things to many people, but in that hour and a half timeframe,
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it's extremely difficult and I think that while she may be up in the betting markets,
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as we've discussed, I think the election is decided in just a handful of states.
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So she's going to have to get out and go to Pennsylvania where it was last night.
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She mentioned fracking and that she is not opposed to it.
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She had been opposed to it in the past.
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She says she's not now.
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I think she'll probably need to drive that message home in Pennsylvania, energy dependent
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state.
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She'll need to go to Wisconsin.
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She'll need to go to Georgia and so on or spend more time in those places, I should
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say.
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The same for President Trump.
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He needs to capture those voters as well.
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But yeah, I think Vice President Harris seemed well prepared last night.
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I think President Trump did better in his debate versus President Biden than he did
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last night.
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Trump supporters consistently blame the ABC moderators for being biased toward Kamala
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Harris.
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That really was the line of attack on Fox News and other right wing networks last night.
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What do you make of it?
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Well I think when President Trump this morning, or was it last night, said that he wasn't
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sure if he was going to debate her again, that that was not a good sign.
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And I think blaming for another debate that is.
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And really, yeah, saying that he had at least two competitors last night, or three if you
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count both moderators, is not a sign that he believes the debate went well.
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And I don't know that it's an entirely fair charge for him to make.
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He's up there.
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He can rebut the rebuttals from them if he so chooses.
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They can also fact check Vice President Harris.
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The moderators in any debate, I think as a journalist, should be equal opportunity fact
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checkers towards both candidates on the stage.
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So Donald Trump went so far as to say that if he did another debate, he'd want Sean Hannity
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or Jesse Watters or Laura Ingram, that the news personalities at Fox, Bret Baier and
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Martha McCallum, weren't even enough.
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Will we get another debate?
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Right now I'm thinking not.
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Just because of what he said last night.
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I mean, I think that he would like the debate to be a friendly environment.
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He perceived last night, and some of his supporters perceived last night as a friendly environment
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towards Vice President Harris.
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But I think regardless of the forum or the moderators, given the closeness of polls and
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given the closeness of this race, both of them still have quite a bit of work to do,
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no matter who the moderators are, no matter if there's another debate or not, and so on,
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to go out and convince people that their vision for the country is better than the other person's.
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We just had a reading today on the Consumer Price Index that showed core inflation, so-called
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core inflation that strips out energy costs and other costs, was up a little bit more
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than expected.
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Now, year over year it was down, so the trend is good.
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But those inflation pressures are still there.
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And the stock market is down today because that gives the sense that the Federal Reserve
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next week might not cut interest rates by as much as it could, 50 basis points, and
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that maybe 25 basis points is a better bet, so to speak.
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Yeah, that looks likely.
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All right.
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From cats and dogs to cats, cat lover Taylor Swift, I have to ask you, she comes out with
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this endorsement on Instagram of Kamala Harris late last night.
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Does it make a difference in a race that certainly was neck and neck?
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Well, we saw as soon as Taylor Swift put out her post on Instagram that several other celebrities
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did the same.
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I think they liked the post or there was that sort of buzz.
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And buzz matters in these situations.
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For me, I think that that was a surprise landing right after it did.
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And youth vote or vote of Taylor Swift fans, most of whom I think are young, it does matter.
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And, you know, any attempt to get out the vote is going to make a difference in an election
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this close.
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If you have a celebrity of her status saying I'm with with one candidate or the other,
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I think it could make a difference.
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Yeah.
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I mean, like anything that turns out, young people certainly will make a difference.
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But the race still clearly tight.
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Washington Bureau chief from Market Watch, Rob Schroeder, good to have you, as always,
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sir.
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