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"Mera Khayal Hai Ham Qanoon Sazi Karna Chahte Hain..."Musadik Malik's Statement
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"Mera Khayal Hai Ham Qanoon Sazi Karna Chahte Hain..."Musadik Malik's Statement
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00:00
Do we want to make the constitution and the law? I think we want to make it.
00:05
Why do we want to make the constitution and the law?
00:08
Because when a decision of the Supreme Court is not in accordance with any other decision,
00:15
then it means that there is some ambiguity in the constitution and the law.
00:19
When two judges, one Supreme Court judge makes a decision on NAB,
00:24
and the other Supreme Court judge makes a second decision on NAB,
00:29
and there is a constitution of the same country, and a law of the same country,
00:33
then at least it becomes clear to you that whatever is written,
00:37
the way the court is treating it, after that there is no similarity or similarity in the decisions.
00:44
That too in that society, because Muneeb is sitting where there is a precedence-based judicial system,
00:51
where it is not that today my heart is not doing it, so today this punishment and tomorrow this punishment,
00:55
but if you keep the old decisions in front of you, quote them, cite them, make your case and move forward,
01:02
there two benches will usually make different decisions.
01:07
Where there is only one bench.
01:09
Well, the two are separate, so you said it was temporal that the time was different,
01:13
the judge was different, the judge was different.
01:15
People sitting in a bench should tell each other that judges should not be seen as politicians wearing a jubba.
01:23
When your own fraternity and half a judge sitting on a bench,
01:27
tell half the judges sitting on the other side something else,
01:31
then what should we say in your program?
01:34
No, that is fine, I am just asking that if this is your point of view,
01:37
I know that your community also has grudges regarding this, that you have a point of view,
01:42
if you are legislating, then tell us what you are doing.
01:44
I am telling you.
01:45
Do it.
01:46
I am telling you.
01:47
We will do the table this week.
01:48
I don't know about this week.
01:49
Behind the scenes, is it working or not?
01:53
In my opinion, what I have told you,
01:56
for example, a Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, may God bless him,
02:01
what should I do?
02:02
I can only pray that he appoints another judge of the Supreme Court as a supervisor,
02:09
who should be punished.
02:10
You are talking about the Peneba monitoring case, right?
02:12
Yes, I have said this.
02:13
Doctor, my question is very specific.
02:14
My question is bigger than yours.
02:15
Doctor, in the coming few days, specifically in the next 2-3 weeks,
02:20
if there is going to be a legislation, is the government working on any of its provisions?
02:25
Look, I don't have any specific thing in front of me.
02:28
But I know that in our country, whether it is interference,
02:33
in the Punjab Assembly, the new law was written on floor crossing in our country,
02:38
all these things are in front of us.
02:40
Sir, why are you not agreeing?
02:41
Because you are saying that there is a need for legislation.
02:43
If there is, then we will agree in front of you.
02:45
No, because when I will come to you with a box of sweets,
02:49
then the government will openly say that we want to legislate,
02:51
but we have not come, we are working on it.
02:53
You are saying that you don't know, we don't know the specifics.
02:56
Whether he knows or not, whether he knows or not,
02:58
Sir, Bagh is full of animals, Doctor.
03:00
No, you are doing this out of love.
03:02
I mean, all the people are here.
03:03
You are doing this out of love.
03:04
Look, I have asked both the judges.
03:05
I have told you that you are doing this out of love.
03:07
Everyone knows, Sir.
03:08
Actually, I have said this to you.
03:09
Yes?
03:10
One second, Muneeb.
03:11
One second, Muneeb.
03:12
If Muneeb allows me.
03:14
We have the things in front of us in the constitution and law,
03:19
some of which I have put in front of you, there are more.
03:21
There are countless advocates on them and countless people are working on them.
03:26
We want that there should be legislation in this country,
03:29
so that the kind of theatre that is going on,
03:32
this theatre should stop.
03:34
There should be clarity in the constitution,
03:35
there should be clarity in the law,
03:37
there should be consistency in the decisions.
03:38
Now you are saying that you are bringing it next week.
03:40
Next week we will have the numbers, so we will bring it next week.
03:42
Leave next week, next week.
03:43
Next week we will have the numbers, so we will bring it next week.
03:45
Sir, I am saying that you are not working on a legal constitution,
03:47
your government is working on it or not.
03:49
I have just told you that we have at least 10 different constitutions in which we are working.
03:54
In which the government officials, especially the judges,
03:56
have been working on it in accordance with their age.
03:58
No, there is no such thing in front of me.
04:00
No?
04:01
There is no such thing in front of me.
04:02
Okay, apart from this,
04:03
do you have any suggestions about changing a legislator in reference to the appointment of the Chief Justice?
04:07
Some bills have come in front of you,
04:09
the numbers which have been increased,
04:10
but these specific bills which you are talking about,
04:12
are not in front of me.
04:13
Is there any work being done on the posting, transfer of judges of the High Courts
04:16
or their right to be in some other court?
04:20
If a team is working in the Law Division,
04:23
because I am not a part of that legal committee,
04:27
if someone is working,
04:28
you can ask them,
04:29
they will tell you,
04:30
they have not come in front of me.
04:31
Neither have they come in front of the Cabinet,
04:33
nor have they come in front of the Zaili Committee,
04:35
which I am a member of,
04:36
and I am a member of many committees,
04:37
nor have they come in front of them.
04:38
But if some other committee is working on this,
04:40
then I know.
04:41
Okay, Mr. Muneeb,
04:42
Doc Sir is saying,
04:43
and in fact,
04:44
if we talk to all the judges,
04:45
they say,
04:46
we don't know about this,
04:47
you talk to Mr. Tadat,
04:48
I was listening to Mr. Tawla Tadat,
04:50
I was listening to Mr. Rana Sanaullah,
04:52
Doc Sir,
04:53
if someone comes in my program for the second time,
04:54
there has not been any problem in front of them yet.
04:56
So then,
04:57
whom are you talking to?
04:58
Where is this work being done?
04:59
Where are you spreading all these rumours and gossips in the air?
05:03
Look,
05:04
the thing is,
05:05
you just gave an example of a garden and flowers,
05:07
so the garden is such,
05:08
in which there are thorny flowers like Mr. Atarkazmi and me,
05:12
we are trying to spread some fragrance from our side.
05:18
The thing is,
05:19
Doc Sir,
05:20
he is our elder brother anyway,
05:23
and he is a very noble personality,
05:25
I give him this benefit of doubt,
05:28
because his portfolio is also different,
05:30
he has nothing to do with the law ministry.
05:33
But,
05:34
I am not ready to take it lightly,
05:37
that Doc Sir is a very ordinary person,
05:39
he likes his leadership very much,
05:42
so there will definitely be some matters,
05:44
which will definitely be in Doc Sir's knowledge,
05:47
yes,
05:48
if he wants to divert that information,
05:49
then that is his prerogative,
05:51
but I say this much,
05:52
and I say it now.
05:56
Muneeb,
05:57
you try,
05:58
Muneeb,
05:59
try to get that information on your channel,
06:02
that he is not giving it to ARY,
06:04
Mr. Atarkazmi,
06:05
you also have an agreement on this,
06:07
whether Doc Sir has information or not,
06:09
he is not telling us,
06:10
or he is not telling ARY,
06:11
which of these three options do you think is more correct,
06:14
Mr. Atarkazmi?
06:15
I think the problem is with ARY,
06:17
to be honest,
06:18
I have no doubt in Doc Sir and the government,
06:21
see,
06:22
everyone has a doubt on ARY,
06:24
okay,
06:25
I understood,
06:28
yes,
06:29
Atar,
06:30
see,
06:31
any government that legislates,
06:33
this is a very important legislation,
06:35
and a lot of government is relying on this,
06:38
our Minister of Defense said that
06:40
in October,
06:41
they will attack on elections,
06:43
see,
06:44
the guarantee of the system at this time,
06:46
is very much connected to this legislation,
06:49
if your tribunals start running,
06:51
in Punjab,
06:52
and your,
06:53
similarly,
06:54
the three seats in Wafaaq,
06:57
and it seems that,
06:59
a support,
07:00
from certain quarters,
07:02
especially the judicial quarters,
07:04
which the government has,
07:05
it may not be like that,
07:06
a life support is being given,
07:08
but as certain things are being ignored there,
07:11
if those things are not ignored,
07:13
and these matters go ahead,
07:14
then there may be problems for the government,
07:16
so,
07:17
certainly,
07:18
this is the wish of the government,
07:19
that this kind of legislation,
07:20
and the minister of law,
07:21
is very much involved in this,
07:22
and the people of Bukla,
07:25
if you talk to them,
07:26
to the senior people,
07:27
they also tell you a lot about this,
07:29
now,
07:30
the government will do the table,
07:31
only when they will have an idea,
07:33
more than 95%,
07:35
that we can succeed in this,
07:37
for now,
07:38
they have not achieved those numbers,
07:40
it is possible,
07:41
they can do it in the future,
07:42
the conversation that took place with Maulana,
07:44
in that,
07:45
the matter is fine,
07:46
we have an old relationship of love with Maulana,
07:49
and when you don't even know,
07:50
our conversation is going on,
07:52
but he is upset,
07:53
he also said that,
07:54
we will leave the vote for this law,
07:56
we don't know,
07:57
which law,
07:58
which vote,
07:59
but we have an old relationship with Maulana,
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