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  • 9/5/2024
El Palomar: cinco delincuentes los abordaron pero lograron escapar

️ Carlos, vecino de la víctima: "No lo mataron de casualidad, la sacó barata", y dijo: "Lamento no haberme ido del país"

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00:00What have you been doing all your life, Pablo?
00:02I came to do it. I've been living here for more than 50 years.
00:04And you call it a house in the middle.
00:06A house in the middle, yes.
00:08Tell me how you lived it and what happened to you.
00:10What happened to me? We are in the hands of God, my friend, here.
00:12The province of Buenos Aires.
00:14Nothing. It's another country. The capital is one thing, the province is another.
00:18Get ready so Eduardo can hear you.
00:20Eduardo is listening to you.
00:22Carlos, I'm going to ask you a question and we'll share it on the blog to ask.
00:24When you heard the shots, what did you think at that moment?
00:26At first I heard a lot of noise and a lot of chaos.
00:30I thought, oh, they must have collided.
00:32And I look out into the street and I hear the shot, right?
00:36And they were robbing Pablo.
00:38And then what happened?
00:40Nothing, they left. The guys left, Pablo came out, he collided, they left.
00:44But this is a disaster, old man, a disaster.
00:48I have been paying for the party for 76 years and I never did it.
00:54All the governments are all the same.
00:56Do you think they care about the people?
00:59What's wrong with them? Nothing.
01:02They kill you at a bus stop to steal your shoes.
01:05They rape the girls, they steal their backpacks.
01:07There were three small families here that could have been left without a father or a mother.
01:12Sure, sure. They didn't kill him by chance.
01:15It came out cheap.
01:16It's Carlos who listens to you, Edu.
01:18Carlos, the truth is that I was listening to you.
01:21And well, you suggest that no one is paying attention to them, right?
01:24For what happens, for this fact and for so many others.
01:27Where did you see everything from, Carlos?
01:30Because you heard the shots.
01:31How did you notice that the robbery was happening?
01:34From the corner of my house.
01:35This is almost in the corner of my house.
01:38I live in the corner and Pablo next door.
01:40And I was in the corner when I saw everything.
01:42Were you outside your house or were you in a garden?
01:46No, outside, in the corner.
01:48Outside.
01:49In the street.
01:50And did you see how the criminals were holding the gun and shooting the car and also the truck?
01:56And they were shooting in the air, right?
01:58Did you hear the shots?
01:59Yes, yes, yes.
02:01But you notice that the criminals had medical gloves.
02:07They were all wearing gloves so as not to leave marks.
02:10The five of them.
02:11And how do they walk?
02:12Five guys in a car with a hood up to their noses.
02:17And the police, where do they see them?
02:19Okay, here where we live there are two patrols and none of them work.
02:23That is clear.
02:25Let everyone know, right?
02:26Who can they run to?
02:27They can run to someone on a bicycle.
02:29And let's not fuck up once and for all, let's tell the truth, you know?
02:32We are in the hand of God here.
02:34No, no, no, no.
02:35Who cares?
02:37The people, the people, the people who are going to work at five in the morning with their backpacks.
02:42The politicians are not interested.
02:44I am retired and I charge the minimum.
02:46What are you telling me?
02:47Please, please.
02:50No, no, no.
02:51There is no solution.
02:52And it's a shame I didn't go.
02:53And I, with the young people I talk to, with the girls, I tell them, study and go.
02:58What are you going to do?
02:59Have a child here?
03:00For what?
03:01Think about it.
03:02For what?
03:03No, please.
03:04Now, Carlos, you are a neighbor of the neighborhood all your life, Carlos.
03:08And you just got involved in the talk with our Carlos Salerno, your neighbor, Pablo.
03:13Why do you have to give up having to leave the place where you were raised, where you lived, where you made a dream,
03:20where you built a family, where you had children, where you have photos, memories, smells?
03:25Why don't we have to go and not the criminals?
03:28But why?
03:29But tell me one thing.
03:31What can I do?
03:33I have it clear.
03:34You give me a year of power and I change you to Argentina.
03:38We have the golden columns.
03:39Believe me.
03:40But they don't want to do it.
03:42Things don't want to be done.
03:44Why am I going to go?
03:45Well, I hope they kill me then.
03:47Because I go out with the bag, make a bandage here and they kill me.
03:50Listen to me.
03:51To steal what from me?
03:52The cell phone.
03:53No, no.
03:54I don't want to go.
03:56But you have to go.
03:58It is obvious that you have to go.
04:00What can you expect here?
04:01I have friends outside.
04:02And look, one is a waiter, has a car, everything.
04:05And well, a waiter.
04:07And here you are a doctor and you are in an ambulance winning two mangoes, saving lives.
04:11Let's stop fucking.
04:13Argentina is the country upside down.
04:15Unfortunately.
04:16The country upside down.
04:18The criminals are outside and we are inside.
04:20Locked up.
04:22Because these guys, five in a car and nobody stops them.
04:25Here we have grids that the police should respect.
04:28From 6 to 2, from 2 to 10 and from 10 to 6.
04:31Controlling like everyone else.
04:33Because I lived outside too and I know.
04:35And here it is not done.
04:37Why?
04:38Because there is no money, because they steal it, because pipi, pipi.
04:40All a life.
04:4176 years old, friend.
04:43Stop fucking.
04:44It is like that.
04:45Unfortunately.
04:46I was 6 years old and my mother sent me to make the potato tail because there was no potato in Argentina.
04:52And in the winter the tail of the kerosene to give it to the bomb stove that we had because we died of cold.
04:58So look how much I'm talking to you.
05:0076 years ago.
05:02And what changed?
05:03Nothing.
05:04All the same.
05:05And everyone talks, talks and promises.
05:06And nothing.
05:07Nothing.
05:08Everything is the same.
05:09So look.
05:10I don't want to give myself more handcuffs because they broke my heart recently.
05:13Carlos, thank you.
05:14And I can't buy the remedies on top.
05:16For your word.
05:17No, nothing.
05:18I ask you, I ask you.
05:20When you talk, sorry Carlos, I keep asking you.
05:22When you talk to the rest of the neighbors, do they feel the same as you?
05:26Yes.
05:27Do they feel that this can be solved?
05:29All the same, we are all the same.
05:30That it is going to be solved in some way?
05:33Who is going to solve it?
05:34Tell me.
05:35I ask you.
05:36I ask you, who is more informed than me.
05:38Who is going to solve it?
05:39Kicillof is going to solve it?
05:41The mayor of here?
05:43Who was the one who said that if they get a little drunk, they try?
05:46Do you remember?
05:47What, what, what?
05:48Please.
05:49Let's be realistic.
05:50Look, you came from here and the neighbors erased everything.
05:54Nobody wants to show their faces.
05:55But you have to tell the truth once and for all.
05:58The truth is this, skinny.
06:00This is the truth.
06:02And well, and I can stand the one that comes.
06:04I have no problem.
06:06It is understandable that the neighbors are equally afraid, right Carlos?
06:11Yes, it is understandable.
06:12But someone has to show their face and say things as they are.
06:15They kill me tomorrow and well, that's it.
06:17What am I going to do?
06:18But at least I'm not going to stay with the intrigue.
06:22How is your family composed, Carlos?
06:26My wife, who is here, and two children.
06:32And I can't talk about them.
06:35And what gives you? Sadness?
06:39Yes, but listen to me.
06:42Nowadays, I had a company and Albertito Fernández founded it for me.
06:47Because I was going to work and the police came.
06:49He hit me and told me to leave.
06:51There in Villa de Voto.
06:54And I had to go three times in a row.
06:56I wanted to go for a walk and they didn't let me.
06:58And they were screwed.
07:00And I closed everything, I paid everyone and the story was over.
07:03And here I am, with the minimum wage and well, I can't buy the remedies.
07:07And when you see that five criminals get out of a car,
07:10and that perhaps after this frustrated robbery, they continued to steal.
07:13Carlos Salerno, our journalist, always tells us that.
07:16They plan a day of robbery and until they commit four or five robberies, they don't finish.
07:21What do you think of the criminals? Some of them are minors.
07:24They left and stole.
07:27Yes, it can be.
07:28But you have to kill them all the same.
07:30Neither minors nor elders, nothing.
07:33Because they screw up a family.
07:37They killed Pablo here.
07:39And there were three girls left, the woman.
07:41What were they doing?
07:43It's not like that, it's not like that.
07:44They don't care.
07:46But who puts the cat's head here, friend?
07:48There is no one with eggs.
07:50There is not.
07:52And from these facts, Carlos, do you change anything in your life?
07:55Listen to me.
07:57You and your wife, I mean, do they change anything?
07:59No, I don't change anything.
08:00I'm still the same.
08:01No, no, I don't change anything.
08:02Look, now on Monday they invited me to go two days, another postman's son, to a place.
08:08And my wife tells me, don't leave me alone.
08:10Why am I not going to leave you alone?
08:11Lock yourself up.
08:12And well, who wants me to tell you?
08:15I follow my life.
08:16If they kill me, they kill me.
08:17I have no problem.
08:20Edu.
08:21Yes.
08:22Carlos represents the 350,000 autonomous workers who have created PYMES,
08:30have tried to get their heads out, have tried to go afloat,
08:33and the different governments have never left you, Carlos.
08:36And the consequence ends up being a life of sacrifice, and you are charging a minimum wage.
08:44Yes, that's why I'm telling you.
08:46That's why I'm furious.
08:47And when I talk to the youth, I tell them to leave.
08:50Because there is no sign that this will change.
08:52Do you think my law is going to change this?
08:54It's not going to change it.
08:55He's in the high spheres.
08:57The people who shit.
08:58Speaking in Creole, right?
09:00You are angry with all politics, with all the political history of Argentina.
09:04But with all, with all, dear, with all.
09:08Who does something?
09:10No, no, no.
09:12That's enough.
09:13There is no one who will fix this.
09:14There is no one.
09:15From what you see, there is no one.
09:18And what bothers you the most?
09:20The capital is one thing, and the province is another.
09:22Do you feel that it is so?
09:24Let's see, Carlos, what bothers you the most?
09:26If there is one thing that can worry you the most, the economy or insecurity?
09:33Everything.
09:34Everything worries me.
09:35Insecurity, the economy, the kids.
09:38They don't know how to read, old man, they don't know how to read.
09:42No, please, please.
09:46I say, look, at least these politicians who go out and travel,
09:50I say, copy and improve, go to other countries, copy and improve.

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